Is there life after death?

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What’s your take on the following? Is there life after death?
Many studies on near-death experiences suggest that they are vivid, often life-changing events that occur under extreme physiological conditions, such as cardiac arrest or deep anesthesia. So, does some form of consciousness exist beyond the physical body?

Over 2,000 patients who experienced cardiac arrest were found to have some reported awareness and memories during resuscitation. Others experienced sensations of leaving the body, encountering bright lights, and experiencing a deep sense of peace.

This can only be possible if man consists of a body, a soul, and a spirit. When the body experiences death or some coma-like experience, the soul and spirit leave the body and are aware of their surroundings.
Both Paul and John had similar experiences.

Paul wrote, 2 Corinthians 12:2-4, “I know a man in Christ, who fourteen years ago, (whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows); such a man was caught up to the third heaven. --- How that he was caught up into paradise and heard unspeakable words, which a man is not lawful for a man to utter.”

Mr. Dave Bennett was the chief engineer of an underwater research vessel in 1983. One night, he was thrown into the ocean. He’d been educated on the signs of oxygen deprivation, but as he drowned, he suddenly experienced something unlike anything he’d read about.

He felt an omnipresent being accompanying him as the darkness slowly faded into light. Surprisingly, he started to move toward it. He said, “As I got closer, there were waves and waves of love that were just wrapping me in this warm embrace. It was the most amazing feeling I ever had, and it felt as if this love was actually permeating my being, and it transformed me into this being of life, and as I got closer to the light, the light appeared to me like it was millions upon millions of fragments of light.” Out of that, he saw what he interpreted as his family—not the ones he’d had on Earth but a second “soul family.” This soul family relived his life with him through different viewpoints. He was told to go back to life to fulfill his purpose, and after 18 minutes underwater, he returned to the surface.

In October 2023, Tommy McDowell found himself in the intensive care unit, his body ravaged by sepsis-induced organ failure. While unconscious, McDowell stepped into a void he describes as "extreme blackness."
As recounted during the conversation with Baltimore’s 11 News, “I have no vision, no sight, no body feeling, no breath, nothing. Just this total, total blackness. And it was terrifying.”
He felt an overwhelming sense of isolation and fear. Amid this abyss, McDowell cried out in desperation.

"I screamed out, and I said, you know, 'My God, my God, where are you?' And that was when I had just this incredibly overwhelming sense of peace and comfort," said McDowell. "I don't have the language to describe exactly how much it was. It's like I tell people, whatever your best life was, multiply it by 10,000 times, and maybe you'll get close to the extreme of what this felt like."
Your thoughts:

[onewithhim]

[Replying to placebofactor in post #1]

Is there life after death? What does the Bible actually say?

To Adam: "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it thou wast taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." (Genesis 3:19, KJV)

No informing of hell-fire or of going to heaven, or even a time of wandering around on the earth. Just a return to the ground.

"That which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again." (Ecclesiastes 3:19,20, KJV)

"The living know that they shall die: but the dead know not anything." (Eccles.9:5, KJV)

So what hope is there for a dead person? The future resurrection, when Jesus calls forth all those that are in their graves. (John 5:28; 6:40,44) So we see that the Bible tells us that the dead will remain in their graves until Jesus resurrects them at the last day.

[JehovahsWitness]

There is NO life after death, but there is a hope for the dead that they return to life. This is called in the bible a "resurrection"


JEHOVAH'S WITNESS

[placebofactor]

[Replying to placebofactor in post #1]

Is there life after death? What does the Bible actually say?

To Adam: "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it thou wast taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." (Genesis 3:19, KJV)

No informing of hell-fire or of going to heaven, or even a time of wandering around on the earth. Just a return to the ground.

"That which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again." (Ecclesiastes 3:19,20, KJV)

"The living know that they shall die: but the dead know not anything." (Eccles.9:5, KJV)

So what hope is there for a dead person? The future resurrection, when Jesus calls forth all those that are in their graves. (John 5:28; 6:40,44) So we see that the Bible tells us that the dead will remain in their graves until Jesus resurrects them at the last day.

You are correct when you wrote, "To Adam: "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it thou wast taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." (Genesis 3:19, KJV)" And believe it or not, it makes no difference which Bible you quote from. Yes, both the physical bodies of men and beasts will return to the dust of the ground upon death. Every man's life is a time of testing. It's about whether to receive Jesus Christ as our Savior or to reject him. Receiving him means having "ETERNAL LIFE."

So let me begin with 1 Thessalonians 5:23, which I hope you understand is part of the Scriptures and should not be overlooked or rejected. "I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ." Forget what you've been told; read the verse; it's a clear statement of fact. You don't need anyone to tell you it doesn't mean what it states.

Man was created by God as a compound being, consisting of bones, flesh, blood, a mind or soul that is the seat of our affections and passions, such as love and hate. Then there's the immortal principle, the source of life for the body and soul: it's our spirit. Paul prayed that all three (BODY, SOUL, AND SPIRIT) would be preserved blameless unto the coming of Jesus.

It seems you place too much emphasis on the physical body, which has a limited life because it's born in corruption, but not enough emphasis on the soul and spirit of a man that will never die. Jesus said in John 8:51, "If a man keep my saying he shall never see death."

"Shall never see death." Think about that! If the whole man were to see death as you claim, then Jesus would be a liar when he said, "You shall never see death."

Jesus is the God of the living. In Matthew 17:2, Moses had long been dead, yet the disciples saw him talking with the Lord Jesus and Elijah. Moses died 1500 years before the Mt. of Transfiguration, yet he was seen, known, and heard by the disciples. In Revelation, John sees 24 elders sitting before the throne. Paul was taken in the spirit into God's paradise. Jesus speaks of Lazarus in the bosom of Abraham.

[A Freeman]

Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the "Dead" (those under God's death sentence for treason - Rev. 12:7-9; Luke 9:55) bury their dead.

If the above verse is mistakenly understood to be speaking of the physically dead (humans that have died) how could "the dead" bury their dead?

It clearly is speaking of the SPIRITUALLY dead, i.e. those who are walking around in human bodies (the walking dead), completely consumed by this material world, who have no idea what or who they really are, or why they are here, instead believing the lie that "they are only human after all".

We are spiritual-Beings who are only temporarily incarnated inside of the human body we see in the mirror. When the body dies, the soul (spiritual-Being) is liberated from the body (at or just before the death of the human), and is taken to "paradise" aka the astral plane/plain, to receive a "life-review" for the life it has just lived.

IF that soul completed the training and learned everything it needs to learn, then it moves on (goes home) to heaven (back out into the universe, our REAL home). If it hasn't learned everything it needs to learn, then the evil it has learned is erased from its memory, and it is sent back with only the cumulative good it has learned throughout each of its previous lifetimes.

This is why understanding the differences between the spirit (a spiritual Being/soul) and the flesh (the human) is IMPERATIVE in taking the first step into a much larger world: our REAL/TRUE eternal/spiritual lives.

John 3:3-7
3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above, he cannot SEE The Kingdom of God.
3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (human) and then is born (later) from above as his spirit-"Being" (his REAL self which is NOT human), he can NOT enter into The Kingdom of God (Who is a Spirit-"Being").
3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh (human); and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (a spirit-"Being") - (a human+Being).
3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the Words (Truth) that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are Life.

James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD also.

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ALL human life ends in death ("dust to dust" - Gen. 3:19; Eccl. 12:7), so those who believe in the lie that they are allegedly "only human after all" will return to that from which they came.

Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou [art], and unto dust shalt thou return.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God Who gave it (Sura 2:28; Sura 2:28]Sura 10:56).

All spiritual life is eternal, at least until Judgment Day, when the spiritually "dead" will be reduced to ashes in The Fire, aka the "second death": the death of the soul ("ashes to ashes" - Mal. 4; Rev. 20:12-15).

Malachi 4
4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).
4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ASHES under the soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts.
4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments.
4:5 Behold, I will send you EliJAH the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the "I AM" ([url=https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/sura043.htm#43_61]Sura 43:61):
4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse (see verse 1 above for details of the curse).

Revelation 20:12-15
20:12 And I saw the "Dead", small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another Book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life: and the "Dead" were judged out of those things which were written in the Books, according to their works.
20:13 And the "sea" gave up the "Dead" which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their WORKS.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the "Lake of Fire". This is the SECOND death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the "Lake of Fire".

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Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the "Dead" (those under God's death sentence for treason - Rev. 12:7-9; Luke 9:55) bury their dead.

If the above verse is mistakenly understood to be speaking of the physically dead (humans that have died) how could "the dead" bury their dead?

It clearly is speaking of the SPIRITUALLY dead, i.e. those who are walking around in human bodies (the walking dead), completely consumed by this material world, who have no idea what or who they really are, or why they are here, instead believing the lie that "they are only human after all".

We are spiritual-Beings who are only temporarily incarnated inside of the human body we see in the mirror. When the body dies, the soul (spiritual-Being) is liberated from the body (at or just before the death of the human), and is taken to "paradise" aka the astral plane/plain, to receive a "life-review" for the life it has just lived.

IF that soul completed the training and learned everything it needs to learn, then it moves on (goes home) to heaven (back out into the universe, our REAL home). If it hasn't learned everything it needs to learn, then the evil it has learned is erased from its memory, and it is sent back with only the cumulative good it has learned throughout each of its previous lifetimes.

This is why understanding the differences between the spirit (a spiritual Being/soul) and the flesh (the human) is IMPERATIVE in taking the first step into a much larger world: our REAL/TRUE eternal/spiritual lives.

John 3:3-7
3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above, he cannot SEE The Kingdom of God.
3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (human) and then is born (later) from above as his spirit-"Being" (his REAL self which is NOT human), he can NOT enter into The Kingdom of God (Who is a Spirit-"Being").
3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh (human); and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (a spirit-"Being") - (a human+Being).
3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the Words (Truth) that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are Life.

James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD also.

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ALL human life ends in death ("dust to dust" - Gen. 3:19; Eccl. 12:7), so those who believe in the lie that they are allegedly "only human after all" will return to that from which they came.

Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou [art], and unto dust shalt thou return.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God Who gave it (Sura 2:28; Sura 2:28]Sura 10:56).

All spiritual life is eternal, at least until Judgment Day, when the spiritually "dead" will be reduced to ashes in The Fire, aka the "second death": the death of the soul ("ashes to ashes" - Mal. 4; Rev. 20:12-15).

Malachi 4
4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).
4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ASHES under the soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts.
4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments.
4:5 Behold, I will send you EliJAH the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the "I AM" ([url=https://jahtruth.net/kofk-free/sura043.htm#43_61]Sura 43:61):
4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse (see verse 1 above for details of the curse).

Revelation 20:12-15
20:12 And I saw the "Dead", small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another Book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life: and the "Dead" were judged out of those things which were written in the Books, according to their works.
20:13 And the "sea" gave up the "Dead" which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their WORKS.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the "Lake of Fire". This is the SECOND death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the "Lake of Fire".

So, what's your hope? You have none! You waste your time quoting all these verses and adding no context to them. If there are the spiritually dead, there must be those who are spiritually alive; that's me. I never saw my thoughts, or conscience, nor my spirit, but my Bible tells me I have a soul and spirit being held captive in my corrupt physical body. And when this corrupt body dies, my soul and spirit are set free, and the Lord Jesus will give his bride a new body, incorruptible and immortal.

Let's discuss one verse. I know you would like to tear it out of your Bible because it seems to get in your way. 1 Thessalonians 5:23, "I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless u unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Look at the verse carefully, examine it, forget what others have told you, think for yourself. It's clear, nothing fancy. Let the Holy Spirit talk to you. Now explain it to us. And please, don't tell me the King James people got it wrong and the unknowns of the N.W.T. got it right.

John 5:24, Jesus said, "He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation, (judgement) but is passed from death (physical death of the body) unto life." EVERLASTING LIFE does not include death in between.

[A Freeman]

Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the "Dead" (those under God's death sentence for treason - Rev. 12:7-9; Luke 9:55) bury their dead.

If the above verse is mistakenly understood to be speaking of the physically dead (humans that have died) how could "the dead" bury their dead?

It clearly is speaking of the SPIRITUALLY dead, i.e. those who are walking around in human bodies (the walking dead), completely consumed by this material world, who have no idea what or who they really are, or why they are here, instead believing the lie that "they are only human after all".

We are spiritual-Beings who are only temporarily incarnated inside of the human body we see in the mirror. When the body dies, the soul (spiritual-Being) is liberated from the body (at or just before the death of the human), and is taken to "paradise" aka the astral plane/plain, to receive a "life-review" for the life it has just lived.

IF that soul completed the training and learned everything it needs to learn, then it moves on (goes home) to heaven (back out into the universe, our REAL home). If it hasn't learned everything it needs to learn, then the evil it has learned is erased from its memory, and it is sent back with only the cumulative good it has learned throughout each of its previous lifetimes.

This is why understanding the differences between the spirit (a spiritual Being/soul) and the flesh (the human) is IMPERATIVE in taking the first step into a much larger world: our REAL/TRUE eternal/spiritual lives.

John 3:3-7
3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above, he cannot SEE The Kingdom of God.
3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (human) and then is born (later) from above as his spirit-"Being" (his REAL self which is NOT human), he can NOT enter into The Kingdom of God (Who is a Spirit-"Being").
3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh (human); and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (a spirit-"Being") - (a human+Being).
3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the Words (Truth) that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are Life.

James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD also.

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ALL human life ends in death ("dust to dust" - Gen. 3:19; Eccl. 12:7), so those who believe in the lie that they are allegedly "only human after all" will return to that from which they came.

Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou [art], and unto dust shalt thou return.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God Who gave it (Sura 2:28; Sura 2:28]Sura 10:56).

All spiritual life is eternal, at least until Judgment Day, when the spiritually "dead" will be reduced to ashes in The Fire, aka the "second death": the death of the soul ("ashes to ashes" - Mal. 4; Rev. 20:12-15).

Malachi 4
4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).
4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ASHES under the soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts.
4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments.
4:5 Behold, I will send you EliJAH the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the "I AM" (Sura 43:61):
4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse (see verse 1 above for details of the curse).

Revelation 20:12-15
20:12 And I saw the "Dead", small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another Book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life: and the "Dead" were judged out of those things which were written in the Books, according to their works.
20:13 And the "sea" gave up the "Dead" which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their WORKS.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the "Lake of Fire". This is the SECOND death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the "Lake of Fire".

So, what's your hope?

Christ, Who is here right now (on Earth), in a new body (from Joseph-Ephraim - Gen. 49:10, 22-24) with a new name (Rev. 2:17; 3:12; 19:12) and has been since 1948, in fulfillment of the fig-tree prophecy.

You have none! You waste your time quoting all these verses and adding no context to them.

According to whom? The (spiritually) "dead"?

If there are the spiritually dead, there must be those who are spiritually alive; that's me. I never saw my thoughts, or conscience, nor my spirit, but my Bible tells me I have a soul and spirit being held captive in my corrupt physical body.

You have it exactly backwards. You ARE the soul/spirit-Being that presently is incarnated inside of the physical human body you see in a mirror.

And when this corrupt body dies, my soul and spirit are set free,

...when YOU the soul/spirit-Being are set free from that corrupt body...

and the Lord Jesus will give his bride a new body, incorruptible and immortal.

IF one has learned to overcome the "self", then there is hope of surviving Judgement Day (soon).

Let's discuss one verse. I know you would like to tear it out of your Bible because it seems to get in your way. 1 Thessalonians 5:23, "I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Look at the verse carefully, examine it, forget what others have told you, think for yourself. It's clear, nothing fancy. Let the Holy Spirit talk to you. Now explain it to us. And please, don't tell me the King James people got it wrong and the unknowns of the N.W.T. got it right.

Is this where you are going to pretend this verse is allegedly making a distinction between the spirit-Being and the soul, which would place it at odds with God's Law and with the Christ's Teachings?

Genesis 2:7 And the "I AM" God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became alive and was given a soul [spirit Being] (human+being).

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell-fire.

Please read: The Holy Spirit

All Scripture, when correctly transcribed, correctly translated and correctly understood MUST agree (be consistent) with itself.

"The Spirit" that is being spoken about in verse 23 is the Holy Spirit, same as in verse 19, where Paul advises not to quench (suppress) it.

1 Thessalonians 5:17-23
5:17 PRAY WITHOUT CEASING. - using the Holy Spirit, which is our connection to Father.
5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the Will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
5:19 Quench not the Spirit. - Don't suppress the Holy Spirit.
5:20 Despise not prophesyings.
5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
5:23 And may the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; FILL you with the Spirit and preserve your soul and body blameless unto the coming of our Lord Christ the Saviour.

See:
https://biblehub.com/text/1_thessalonians/5-23.htm

"Fill you with" from: ὁλόκληρον (holoklēron - fill completely full with) ὑμῶν (hymōn - you)

"the Spirit" from: τὸ (to - the) πνεῦμα (pneuma - Spirit), aka the Holy Spirit

John 5:24, Jesus said, "He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation, (judgement) but is passed from death (physical death of the body) unto life." EVERLASTING LIFE does not include death in between.

John 5:24-25
5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and liveth by Him that sent me, hath Everlasting Life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from "death" unto Life.
5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the "dead" shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall Live.

How do the "dead" hear anything? Only if someone passes from being among "the dead" (Rev. 20:12-15) to being among the living (the "Elect") can they hear the voice of the Son of God.

Luke 20:34-38
20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the "Dead", neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection (re-sure-rection - re-sure of who is Right - God).
20:37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses showed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
20:38 For He is not a God of the "Dead", but of the Living: for all live unto Him.

John 3:19-21
3:19 And THIS is the condemnation, that Light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than Light, because their deeds were evil.
3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the Light, neither cometh to the Light, lest his deeds should be revealed.
3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the Light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

[placebofactor]

Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the "Dead" (those under God's death sentence for treason - Rev. 12:7-9; Luke 9:55) bury their dead.

If the above verse is mistakenly understood to be speaking of the physically dead (humans that have died) how could "the dead" bury their dead?

It clearly is speaking of the SPIRITUALLY dead, i.e. those who are walking around in human bodies (the walking dead), completely consumed by this material world, who have no idea what or who they really are, or why they are here, instead believing the lie that "they are only human after all".

We are spiritual-Beings who are only temporarily incarnated inside of the human body we see in the mirror. When the body dies, the soul (spiritual-Being) is liberated from the body (at or just before the death of the human), and is taken to "paradise" aka the astral plane/plain, to receive a "life-review" for the life it has just lived.

IF that soul completed the training and learned everything it needs to learn, then it moves on (goes home) to heaven (back out into the universe, our REAL home). If it hasn't learned everything it needs to learn, then the evil it has learned is erased from its memory, and it is sent back with only the cumulative good it has learned throughout each of its previous lifetimes.

This is why understanding the differences between the spirit (a spiritual Being/soul) and the flesh (the human) is IMPERATIVE in taking the first step into a much larger world: our REAL/TRUE eternal/spiritual lives.

John 3:3-7
3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above, he cannot SEE The Kingdom of God.
3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (human) and then is born (later) from above as his spirit-"Being" (his REAL self which is NOT human), he can NOT enter into The Kingdom of God (Who is a Spirit-"Being").
3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh (human); and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (a spirit-"Being") - (a human+Being).
3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the Words (Truth) that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are Life.

James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD also.

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ALL human life ends in death ("dust to dust" - Gen. 3:19; Eccl. 12:7), so those who believe in the lie that they are allegedly "only human after all" will return to that from which they came.

Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou [art], and unto dust shalt thou return.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God Who gave it (Sura 2:28; Sura 2:28]Sura 10:56).

All spiritual life is eternal, at least until Judgment Day, when the spiritually "dead" will be reduced to ashes in The Fire, aka the "second death": the death of the soul ("ashes to ashes" - Mal. 4; Rev. 20:12-15).

Malachi 4
4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).
4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ASHES under the soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts.
4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments.
4:5 Behold, I will send you EliJAH the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the "I AM" (Sura 43:61):
4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse (see verse 1 above for details of the curse).

Revelation 20:12-15
20:12 And I saw the "Dead", small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another Book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life: and the "Dead" were judged out of those things which were written in the Books, according to their works.
20:13 And the "sea" gave up the "Dead" which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their WORKS.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the "Lake of Fire". This is the SECOND death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the "Lake of Fire".

So, what's your hope?

Christ, Who is here right now (on Earth), in a new body (from Joseph-Ephraim - Gen. 49:10, 22-24) with a new name (Rev. 2:17; 3:12; 19:12) and has been since 1948, in fulfillment of the fig-tree prophecy.

You have none! You waste your time quoting all these verses and adding no context to them.

According to whom? The (spiritually) "dead"?

If there are the spiritually dead, there must be those who are spiritually alive; that's me. I never saw my thoughts, or conscience, nor my spirit, but my Bible tells me I have a soul and spirit being held captive in my corrupt physical body.

You have it exactly backwards. You ARE the soul/spirit-Being that presently is incarnated inside of the physical human body you see in a mirror.

And when this corrupt body dies, my soul and spirit are set free,

...when YOU the soul/spirit-Being are set free from that corrupt body...

and the Lord Jesus will give his bride a new body, incorruptible and immortal.

IF one has learned to overcome the "self", then there is hope of surviving Judgement Day (soon).

Let's discuss one verse. I know you would like to tear it out of your Bible because it seems to get in your way. 1 Thessalonians 5:23, "I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Look at the verse carefully, examine it, forget what others have told you, think for yourself. It's clear, nothing fancy. Let the Holy Spirit talk to you. Now explain it to us. And please, don't tell me the King James people got it wrong and the unknowns of the N.W.T. got it right.

Is this where you are going to pretend this verse is allegedly making a distinction between the spirit-Being and the soul, which would place it at odds with God's Law and with the Christ's Teachings?

Genesis 2:7 And the "I AM" God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became alive and was given a soul [spirit Being] (human+being).

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell-fire.

Please read: The Holy Spirit

All Scripture, when correctly transcribed, correctly translated and correctly understood MUST agree (be consistent) with itself.

"The Spirit" that is being spoken about in verse 23 is the Holy Spirit, same as in verse 19, where Paul advises not to quench (suppress) it.

1 Thessalonians 5:17-23
5:17 PRAY WITHOUT CEASING. - using the Holy Spirit, which is our connection to Father.
5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the Will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
5:19 Quench not the Spirit. - Don't suppress the Holy Spirit.
5:20 Despise not prophesyings.
5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
5:23 And may the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; FILL you with the Spirit and preserve your soul and body blameless unto the coming of our Lord Christ the Saviour.

See:
https://biblehub.com/text/1_thessalonians/5-23.htm

"Fill you with" from: ὁλόκληρον (holoklēron - fill completely full with) ὑμῶν (hymōn - you)

"the Spirit" from: τὸ (to - the) πνεῦμα (pneuma - Spirit), aka the Holy Spirit

John 5:24, Jesus said, "He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation, (judgement) but is passed from death (physical death of the body) unto life." EVERLASTING LIFE does not include death in between.

John 5:24-25
5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and liveth by Him that sent me, hath Everlasting Life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from "death" unto Life.
5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the "dead" shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall Live.

How do the "dead" hear anything? Only if someone passes from being among "the dead" (Rev. 20:12-15) to being among the living (the "Elect") can they hear the voice of the Son of God.

Luke 20:34-38
20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the "Dead", neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection (re-sure-rection - re-sure of who is Right - God).
20:37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses showed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
20:38 For He is not a God of the "Dead", but of the Living: for all live unto Him.

John 3:19-21
3:19 And THIS is the condemnation, that Light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than Light, because their deeds were evil.
3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the Light, neither cometh to the Light, lest his deeds should be revealed.
3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the Light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Let's discuss one verse. I know you would like to tear it out of your Bible because it seems to get in your way. 1 Thessalonians 5:23, "I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Look at the verse carefully, examine it, forget what others have told you, think for yourself. It's clear, nothing fancy. Let the Holy Spirit talk to you. Now explain it to us. And please, don't tell me the King James people got it wrong and the unknowns of the N.W.T. got it right.

Your weak response was, "Is this where you are going to pretend this verse is allegedly making a distinction between the spirit-Being and the soul, which would place it at odds with God's Law and with the Christ's Teachings."

I don't pretend anything, answer the question. If I said Joe, Bob, and Phil are coming, that's three people. If I said I have a stove, refrigerator, and microwave in my kitchen, I have three appliances, If I go to the store and buy milk, bread, and butter, I have purchased three items. But for some reason, when the cults read body, soul, and spirit, all of a sudden, it's two. And when they read Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, again it's two. What's the problem with their addition?

Here's another from the Watchtower. He does not mean He when it comes to the Holy Spirit. Here's my proof, John 14:26, John 15:26, and John 16:13-14. Jesus' own words "Howbeit when He, the Spirit of truth, is come, HE will guide you into all truth: for HE shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever HE shall hear, that shall HE speak: and HE will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for HE shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you."

Another lie from the Watchtower, he is not he, it' the Father's breath. If it's the Father's breath, why won't he talk about himself????????? Body, Soul and Spirit, 1-2-3. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, 1-2-3.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to placebofactor in post #1]

Is there life after death? What does the Bible actually say?

To Adam: "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it thou wast taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." (Genesis 3:19, KJV)

No informing of hell-fire or of going to heaven, or even a time of wandering around on the earth. Just a return to the ground.

"That which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again." (Ecclesiastes 3:19,20, KJV)

"The living know that they shall die: but the dead know not anything." (Eccles.9:5, KJV)

So what hope is there for a dead person? The future resurrection, when Jesus calls forth all those that are in their graves. (John 5:28; 6:40,44) So we see that the Bible tells us that the dead will remain in their graves until Jesus resurrects them at the last day.

You are correct when you wrote, "To Adam: "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it thou wast taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." (Genesis 3:19, KJV)" And believe it or not, it makes no difference which Bible you quote from. Yes, both the physical bodies of men and beasts will return to the dust of the ground upon death. Every man's life is a time of testing. It's about whether to receive Jesus Christ as our Savior or to reject him. Receiving him means having "ETERNAL LIFE."

So let me begin with 1 Thessalonians 5:23, which I hope you understand is part of the Scriptures and should not be overlooked or rejected. "I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ." Forget what you've been told; read the verse; it's a clear statement of fact. You don't need anyone to tell you it doesn't mean what it states.

Man was created by God as a compound being, consisting of bones, flesh, blood, a mind or soul that is the seat of our affections and passions, such as love and hate. Then there's the immortal principle, the source of life for the body and soul: it's our spirit. Paul prayed that all three (BODY, SOUL, AND SPIRIT) would be preserved blameless unto the coming of Jesus.

It seems you place too much emphasis on the physical body, which has a limited life because it's born in corruption, but not enough emphasis on the soul and spirit of a man that will never die. Jesus said in John 8:51, "If a man keep my saying he shall never see death."

"Shall never see death." Think about that! If the whole man were to see death as you claim, then Jesus would be a liar when he said, "You shall never see death."

Jesus is the God of the living. In Matthew 17:2, Moses had long been dead, yet the disciples saw him talking with the Lord Jesus and Elijah. Moses died 1500 years before the Mt. of Transfiguration, yet he was seen, known, and heard by the disciples. In Revelation, John sees 24 elders sitting before the throne. Paul was taken in the spirit into God's paradise. Jesus speaks of Lazarus in the bosom of Abraham.

You have left Jesus' Father out of what you said. He, Jehovah, is the "God of the living."

Then, On the Mt. of Transfiguration Peter, James and John saw a VISION, not actually Moses and Elijah. "And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. (Matthew 17:9, KJV)

In Revelation, most things are not literal. Neither are the 24 elders sitting before the throne of God. Paul also saw a vision. He wasn't literally taken anywhere. Much can be said about Lazarus and the bosom of Abraham, one of the most non-literal stories in the Scriptures.

[onewithhim]

Matthew 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the "Dead" (those under God's death sentence for treason - Rev. 12:7-9; Luke 9:55) bury their dead.

If the above verse is mistakenly understood to be speaking of the physically dead (humans that have died) how could "the dead" bury their dead?

It clearly is speaking of the SPIRITUALLY dead, i.e. those who are walking around in human bodies (the walking dead), completely consumed by this material world, who have no idea what or who they really are, or why they are here, instead believing the lie that "they are only human after all".

We are spiritual-Beings who are only temporarily incarnated inside of the human body we see in the mirror. When the body dies, the soul (spiritual-Being) is liberated from the body (at or just before the death of the human), and is taken to "paradise" aka the astral plane/plain, to receive a "life-review" for the life it has just lived.

IF that soul completed the training and learned everything it needs to learn, then it moves on (goes home) to heaven (back out into the universe, our REAL home). If it hasn't learned everything it needs to learn, then the evil it has learned is erased from its memory, and it is sent back with only the cumulative good it has learned throughout each of its previous lifetimes.

This is why understanding the differences between the spirit (a spiritual Being/soul) and the flesh (the human) is IMPERATIVE in taking the first step into a much larger world: our REAL/TRUE eternal/spiritual lives.

John 3:3-7
3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above, he cannot SEE The Kingdom of God.
3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (human) and then is born (later) from above as his spirit-"Being" (his REAL self which is NOT human), he can NOT enter into The Kingdom of God (Who is a Spirit-"Being").
3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh (human); and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (a spirit-"Being") - (a human+Being).
3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the Words (Truth) that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are Life.

James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD also.

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ALL human life ends in death ("dust to dust" - Gen. 3:19; Eccl. 12:7), so those who believe in the lie that they are allegedly "only human after all" will return to that from which they came.

Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou [art], and unto dust shalt thou return.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God Who gave it (Sura 2:28; Sura 2:28]Sura 10:56).

All spiritual life is eternal, at least until Judgment Day, when the spiritually "dead" will be reduced to ashes in The Fire, aka the "second death": the death of the soul ("ashes to ashes" - Mal. 4; Rev. 20:12-15).

Malachi 4
4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).
4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ASHES under the soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts.
4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments.
4:5 Behold, I will send you EliJAH the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the "I AM" (Sura 43:61):
4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse (see verse 1 above for details of the curse).

Revelation 20:12-15
20:12 And I saw the "Dead", small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another Book was opened, which is [the Book] of Life: and the "Dead" were judged out of those things which were written in the Books, according to their works.
20:13 And the "sea" gave up the "Dead" which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their WORKS.
20:14 And death and hell were cast into the "Lake of Fire". This is the SECOND death.
20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the "Lake of Fire".

So, what's your hope?

Christ, Who is here right now (on Earth), in a new body (from Joseph-Ephraim - Gen. 49:10, 22-24) with a new name (Rev. 2:17; 3:12; 19:12) and has been since 1948, in fulfillment of the fig-tree prophecy.

You have none! You waste your time quoting all these verses and adding no context to them.

According to whom? The (spiritually) "dead"?

If there are the spiritually dead, there must be those who are spiritually alive; that's me. I never saw my thoughts, or conscience, nor my spirit, but my Bible tells me I have a soul and spirit being held captive in my corrupt physical body.

You have it exactly backwards. You ARE the soul/spirit-Being that presently is incarnated inside of the physical human body you see in a mirror.

And when this corrupt body dies, my soul and spirit are set free,

...when YOU the soul/spirit-Being are set free from that corrupt body...

and the Lord Jesus will give his bride a new body, incorruptible and immortal.

IF one has learned to overcome the "self", then there is hope of surviving Judgement Day (soon).

Let's discuss one verse. I know you would like to tear it out of your Bible because it seems to get in your way. 1 Thessalonians 5:23, "I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Look at the verse carefully, examine it, forget what others have told you, think for yourself. It's clear, nothing fancy. Let the Holy Spirit talk to you. Now explain it to us. And please, don't tell me the King James people got it wrong and the unknowns of the N.W.T. got it right.

Is this where you are going to pretend this verse is allegedly making a distinction between the spirit-Being and the soul, which would place it at odds with God's Law and with the Christ's Teachings?

Genesis 2:7 And the "I AM" God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became alive and was given a soul [spirit Being] (human+being).

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell-fire.

Please read: The Holy Spirit

All Scripture, when correctly transcribed, correctly translated and correctly understood MUST agree (be consistent) with itself.

"The Spirit" that is being spoken about in verse 23 is the Holy Spirit, same as in verse 19, where Paul advises not to quench (suppress) it.

1 Thessalonians 5:17-23
5:17 PRAY WITHOUT CEASING. - using the Holy Spirit, which is our connection to Father.
5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the Will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
5:19 Quench not the Spirit. - Don't suppress the Holy Spirit.
5:20 Despise not prophesyings.
5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
5:23 And may the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; FILL you with the Spirit and preserve your soul and body blameless unto the coming of our Lord Christ the Saviour.

See:
https://biblehub.com/text/1_thessalonians/5-23.htm

"Fill you with" from: ὁλόκληρον (holoklēron - fill completely full with) ὑμῶν (hymōn - you)

"the Spirit" from: τὸ (to - the) πνεῦμα (pneuma - Spirit), aka the Holy Spirit

John 5:24, Jesus said, "He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation, (judgement) but is passed from death (physical death of the body) unto life." EVERLASTING LIFE does not include death in between.

John 5:24-25
5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and liveth by Him that sent me, hath Everlasting Life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from "death" unto Life.
5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the "dead" shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall Live.

How do the "dead" hear anything? Only if someone passes from being among "the dead" (Rev. 20:12-15) to being among the living (the "Elect") can they hear the voice of the Son of God.

Luke 20:34-38
20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the "Dead", neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection (re-sure-rection - re-sure of who is Right - God).
20:37 Now that the dead are raised, even Moses showed at the bush, when he calleth the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
20:38 For He is not a God of the "Dead", but of the Living: for all live unto Him.

John 3:19-21
3:19 And THIS is the condemnation, that Light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than Light, because their deeds were evil.
3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the Light, neither cometh to the Light, lest his deeds should be revealed.
3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the Light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

Let's discuss one verse. I know you would like to tear it out of your Bible because it seems to get in your way. 1 Thessalonians 5:23, "I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Look at the verse carefully, examine it, forget what others have told you, think for yourself. It's clear, nothing fancy. Let the Holy Spirit talk to you. Now explain it to us. And please, don't tell me the King James people got it wrong and the unknowns of the N.W.T. got it right.

Your weak response was, "Is this where you are going to pretend this verse is allegedly making a distinction between the spirit-Being and the soul, which would place it at odds with God's Law and with the Christ's Teachings."

I don't pretend anything, answer the question. If I said Joe, Bob, and Phil are coming, that's three people. If I said I have a stove, refrigerator, and microwave in my kitchen, I have three appliances, If I go to the store and buy milk, bread, and butter, I have purchased three items. But for some reason, when the cults read body, soul, and spirit, all of a sudden, it's two. And when they read Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, again it's two. What's the problem with their addition?

Here's another from the Watchtower. He does not mean He when it comes to the Holy Spirit. Here's my proof, John 14:26, John 15:26, and John 16:13-14. Jesus' own words "Howbeit when He, the Spirit of truth, is come, HE will guide you into all truth: for HE shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever HE shall hear, that shall HE speak: and HE will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for HE shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you."

Another lie from the Watchtower, he is not he, it' the Father's breath. If it's the Father's breath, why won't he talk about himself????????? Body, Soul and Spirit, 1-2-3. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, 1-2-3.

Though JWs agree with some things Freeman says, we do not agree with everything he says. Freeman is not one of Jehovah's Witnesses, so stop attributing to us the things he says.