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Here’s the verse from the KJV.
28Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to
feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Ask yourself this question. Did God purchase the church with His blood?
Have a blessed day!
Kate
Thank you and hopefully you also have a blessed day.
I understand the scripture so that Jesus has obtained/earned/purchased the church of God by his blood. Meaning, because of what he did with his life, he earned the position.
And being found in human form, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, yes, the death of the cross. Therefore God also highly exalted him, and gave to him the name which is above every name; that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, those on earth, and those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Phil. 2:8-11
But, even then, God is the highest, as told here:
For, "He put all things in subjection under his feet." But when he says, "All things are put in subjection," it is evident that he is excepted who subjected all things to him. When all things have been subjected to him, then the Son will also himself be subjected to him who subjected all things to him, that God may be all in all.
1 Cor. 15:27-28
Yes, God---the Father---is always superior to the Son and everybody else. Jesus said, "The Father is greater than I am." (John 14:28) That would not just apply to his earthly existence. When he went back to heaven he was still subordinate to the Father. I Corinthians 11:3 show us that "the head of Christ is God," so Jesus has someone higher than he that tells him what to do, as Christ tells his congregation what to do, he being the head of that body. Then from heaven, Jesus said the following that shows that God is higher than he is:
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of
my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of
my God and the name of the city of
my God which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from
my God." (KJV)
Clearly God, the Father, is in a superior position to Christ.
I believe Jesus uttered those verses when He was still on earth. In human form He called His Father my God.
How about the Father in heaven called Jesus "God" and "Lord" Heb 1:8 & 10?
I explained the even after Jesus went back to heaven he was subordinate to the Father, God. "The head of Christ is God." (I Corinth.11:3) He called the Father "my God" when he was in heaven. The whole book of Revelation was inspired by God to his Son Jesus Christ who was in heaven at that time.
The reference to "God" is speaking of the Father being Christ's power given to him by God. That is what "God is your throne" means, in Heb.1:8. To call Jesus "Lord" is not equating him with God the Father.
"God is your throne" can never be the correct translation.
See original Greek verse construction below;
1. Throne comes first and the Greek word God follows,
2. The "ho" in between throne and God, I colored blue is not "is".
Heb 1:8 But G1161 unto G4314 the G3588 Son G5207 he saith, Thy G4675 throne, G2362 O God, G2316 is for ever and ever: G1519 G165 G165 a sceptre G4464 of righteousness G2118 is the G3588 sceptre G4464 of thy G4675 kingdom. G932
Heb 1:8 προς G4314 PREP δε G1161 CONJ τον G3588 T-ASM υιον G5207 N-ASM ο G3588 T-NSM θρονος G2362 N-NSM σου G4771 P-2GS ο G3588 T-NSM θεος G2316 N-NSM εις G1519 PREP τον G3588 T-ASM αιωνα G165 N-ASM του G3588 T-GSM αιωνος G165 N-GSM ραβδος G4464 N-NSF ευθυτητος G2118 N-GSF η G3588 T-NSF ραβδος G4464 N-NSF της G3588 T-GSF βασιλειας G932 N-GSF σου G4771 P-2GS
Heb 1:8 πρὸς δὲ τὸν υἱόν· ὁ
θρόνος σου,
ὁ Θεός, εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα τοῦ αἰῶνος· ῥάβδος εὐθύτητος ἡ ῥάβδος τῆς βασιλείας σου.