DISPENSATIONALISM IS AN UNBIBLICAL DOCTRINE

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DISPENSATIONALISM IS AN UNBIBLICAL DOCTRINE

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Dispensationalism is a word which describes that God had a different plan of salvation for the people on the Old Testament side of the cross than he did for the people on the New Testament side of the cross. For example it is believed by many that from the time of the fall of Adam and Eve, that people were saved by their good works (obedience to God's law, the Bible), then after the cross, obedience to the law of God was no longer necessary for salvation. That is, after the cross, one only had to believe in Jesus in order to be saved.

To demonstrate this doctrine, I copied and pasted a comment in a thread I found in this forum which said, "Good works earned one salvation under the Old Testament. That is, if a person never violated any of God's laws, he or she gained eternal life..... Under the New Testament, man came under grace and not the demands of the law.".

I will debate the side that states that there was only ever one way for God's elect to become saved throughout the history of the world. It was always by grace through the faith of Christ. As my opening support, I would like to put forth this passage:

Genesis 6:6–9 (KJV 1900)
6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. 8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.


Here we are told that the whole world was corrupt, yet Noah found grace in God's eyes. The word grace is the word "favor". Noah found favor in God's eyes. Noah did not find grace because of his good works, else grace is no more grace (Rom 11:6). God describing Noah as just and perfect, isn't describing what Noah had earned as a result of his good works, because the Old Testament clearly tells us that:

....there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not. Ecclesiastes 7:20 (KJV 1900)

AND,

If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near; 1 Kings 8:46 (KJV 1900)

So, when God describes someone as being perfect and just, it's because God is looking at the heart (1 Sam 16:7). A perfect heart which could only come as a result of having been saved by God's grace. This is why good works could never have earned anyone salvation before the cross. Else not a single person could have become saved prior to the cross because all have sinned.

Psalm 14:2–3 (KJV 1900)
2  The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men,
To see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
3  They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy:
There is none that doeth good, no, not one.


The initial question for this debate is, what are the biblical texts used to support the doctrine of dispensationalism?
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Re: DISPENSATIONALISM IS AN UNBIBLICAL DOCTRINE

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Eddie Ramos wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 4:09 pmSo, if you won't even acknowledge that the word "life" in Genesis 2:7 (and many other places) is a plural word in the Hebrew text and should be translated as "lives", then how can you possibly want to move on and try and understand how the Bible explains the soul of man or the difference of "breaths" God speaks of in his word?
Why should I believe something for which I have never been shown any evidence of proof?

It's call a debate. You made a claim that "life" should be "lives" in Genesis 2:7. I searched other sources and never found evidence to support your claim.

So I challenge that claim, and ask for any evidence you might have.

Do you have any real evidence to support your claim?

I think you should respond to that question.

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Eddie Ramos wrote:Thanks for the chat, but I think I'll save my time for those who are genuinely interested in searching the scriptures and seeking for truth.
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