Jesus is God and Why !

[Brightfame52]

Matt 19:16-26

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.


This passage actually is teaching the Truth that Jesus is God ! Notice vs 17 As the young man had addressed Jesus as good, and Jesus responded accordingly, why callest thou me good, for none is good but ONE, that One Being God

Now , notice Jesus did not say, none is good but One and that is my Father, but He said that One, Being God !

Now if Jesus by this is not insinuating that He is God, then the alternative is that He was not good, seeing He just said only ONE, not Two, but ONLY ONE is good.

Now, if Jesus was not good, being that He was not the Only One Good God, then His commanding him, the young ruler, in order to be perfect, that he must go sell all his possessions, then give to the poor, and follow Him; Such an commandment exposed that the young man loved his possessions above God, which was a violation of the very first commandment, now if Jesus was not God, then the young mans refusal to obey and follow Jesus, could not be a proper standard to gauge his Love to God !

For there could not have been nothing amiss about not making such a great sacrifice as that Jesus told him, and then following Him if the One speaking was not the One God, who Only was good !

[Capbook]

Jesus is God since He is being addressed as the Almighty here Rev 11:17-18

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Now the wrath here is none other than that of the Lamb, which is Christ Rev 6:16-17

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Now back in Rev 11:17 it says speaking of Christ "because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned"

And we know Christ has been reigning throughout this dispensation from this scripture 1 Cor 15:23-25

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he[Christ] must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.


So this proves that the Lord God almighty of Rev 11:17 is none other than the Lord Jesus Christ !

No the verses in Revelation don't prove that Jesus is God. The Alpha and Omega is God, the Father, not Jesus. The Father never died, and He is Almighty. Your premise is not proven in any sense of the word. And the book of Revelation was given to Jesus by God, so most everything is coming from Jehovah's mouth. He of course would assert that He is the One spoken of at Rev. 11:17.
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And surely you noticed that Christ gives back the Kingdom to "his God and Father" and puts himself in subjection to God, the Father, so that God will be all things to everyone. How does that show that Jesus is God?

Jesus is Divine(God), Creator of all things and Yahweh in Revelation 22:16.
Please find Clark's and JFB Commentaries;

Revelation 22:16
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

The Maker, the Redeemer, and Judge of all men.

[Have sent mine angel] An especial messenger from heaven.

Christ is the root of David as to his divine nature; for from that all the human race sprang, for he is the Creator of all things, and without him was nothing made which is made. And he is the offspring of David as to his human nature; for that he took of the stock of David, becoming thereby heir to the Jewish throne, and the only heir which then existed; and it is remarkable that the whole regal family terminated in Christ: and as HE liveth forever, he is the alone true David and everlasting King.

[The bright and morning star.] I am splendour and glory to my kingdom; as the morning star ushers in the sun, so shall I usher in the unclouded and eternal glories of the everlasting kingdom.
(from Adam Clarke's Commentary, Electronic Database. Copyright © 1996, 2003, 2005, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)


Revelation 22:16
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Mine angel - Jesus is Lord of the angels.

Unto you - ministers and people in the seven representative churches, and, through you, to Christians of all times and places.

Root ... offspring of David. Appropriate here where assuring His Church of "the sure mercies of David," to Israel first, and through Israel to the Gentiles. Root of David, as Yahweh: offspring of David as man. David's Lord, yet David's son (Matt 22:42-45).

The ... morning star - ushering in the day of grace in the beginning of this dispensation, and the everlasting day of glory at its close.
(from Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown Commentary, Electronic Database. Copyright © 1997, 2003, 2005, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)

[onewithhim]

@onewithhim

No the verses in Revelation don't prove that Jesus is God.

Yes they do, you cant understand it.

Since you do not actually take the verses in Revelation that I show that Jesus is not God and comment on why they do not show that, we will have to leave it at that---you think that I don't understand them, and I think that YOU don't understand them.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to Capbook in post #511]

"Divine" does not mean "God." It means that Christ is a powerful heavenly spirit Being, but not God.
And the "root" of David is Christ, the Messiah, not YHWH. God's name is not found in those verses where it talks about the root of David.

Throughout the OT where it says "the LORD," the name of God has been taken out and replaced with LORD. His name (YHWH) appears in the Hebrew Scriptures over 7,000 times. But translators leave the name out and prefer LORD. It confuses people and they think that "the LORD" means Jesus.

[Brightfame52]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #512]
Jesus is God you cant understand it. I have been showing you scripture testimony

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #511]

"Divine" does not mean "God." It means that Christ is a powerful heavenly spirit Being, but not God.
And the "root" of David is Christ, the Messiah, not YHWH. God's name is not found in those verses where it talks about the root of David.

Throughout the OT where it says "the LORD," the name of God has been taken out and replaced with LORD. His name (YHWH) appears in the Hebrew Scriptures over 7,000 times. But translators leave the name out and prefer LORD. It confuses people and they think that "the LORD" means Jesus.

The Commentary state the word "divine nature" not just divine and it means "to have a divine nature is to possess all the attributes that make God who He is".

Yes Lord and it points to the Father. Jesus lives in the NT.
Yahweh, name for the God of the Israelites, representing the biblical pronunciation of “YHWH,” the Hebrew name revealed to Moses in the book of Exodus. The name YHWH, consisting of the sequence of consonants Yod, Heh, Waw, and Heh, is known as the tetragrammaton.

And Tetragrammaton the Hebrew name of God transliterated in four letters as YHWH or JHVH and articulated as Yahweh or Jehovah.

[Brightfame52]

Jesus is God because of the universal Praise and Worship He shall receive upon His Throne Rev 5:11-13

11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

[Brightfame52]

Jesus is God since scripture says that He laid down His Life for us 1 Jn 3 16

16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

I know of God is not in some manuscripts but it is in the the Complutensian edition, and in the Vulgate Latin version,

Its not a strain since Jesus is Identified as God the Word Jn 1:1,14

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

[Brightfame52]

Jesus is God as we consider the scripture testimony of Zechariah :

Zech 12:4-10

4 In that day, saith the Lord, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.

5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the Lord of hosts their God.

6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.

7 The Lord also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.

8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them.

9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Notice in the passage its the Lord Yᵊhōvâ speaking and notice in Vs 10 they shall look upon ME Yᵊhōvâ whom they have pierced, which is no doubt Christ ! Rev 1:7

7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

[1213]

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Notice in the passage its the Lord Yᵊhōvâ speaking and notice in Vs 10 they shall look upon ME Yᵊhōvâ whom they have pierced, which is no doubt Christ ! Rev 1:7

7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

So, if God died on the cross, who was the one who raised Him from death?

Could these help in understanding your scripture?

Most assuredly I tell you, he who receives whomever I send, receives me; and he who receives me, receives him who sent me."
John 13:20
Whoever listens to you listens to me, and whoever rejects you rejects me. Whoever rejects me rejects him who sent me."
Luke 10:16
..."The King will answer them, 'Most assuredly I tell you, inasmuch as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.' Then he will say also to those on the left hand, 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry, and you didn't give me food to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink; I was a stranger, and you didn't take me in; naked, and you didn't clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn't visit me.' "Then they will also answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry, or thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and didn't help you?' "Then he will answer them, saying, 'Most assuredly I tell you, inasmuch as you didn't do it to one of the least of these, you didn't do it to me.' These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
Matt. 25:34-46

[Brightfame52]

[Replying to 1213 in post #519]

I can only show you what scripture says but cant make you believe it. Doesn't Christ fulfill that Prophecy of being pierced or No ?