Why deny man immortality

Greatest I Am · Post by **Greatest I Am** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:38 am

Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

If the man had absorbed the knowledge of good and evil and was like a God then the man would have been good as God is.

Why would God deny a good man immortality. As a good man, he would get to Heaven anyway.

If man was not to become as a God, why did God give us the tool of the tree of good and evil.
This tree, the Bible leads us all to being good. We are in fact asked by the Bible to become as Jesus. Perfect.

Why deny “the man” immortality at that point in time?

Regards
DL

samuelbb7 · Post by **samuelbb7** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:20 pm

Howdy DL

If I have said that genocide was OK for man, it would have been tongue in cheek. Something I probably should not do because it is not always understood.
Genocide from what I can see has absolutely no value to man or God. If I were to believe the flood then some justification for it might be found but the way the myth is told we see no justification for such action. Indeed such action by anyone including God would be wrong and immoral.

But since all we do is in the will of GOD there is nothing immoral. At least that seems to be what you are saying.

It would have been easy for God to adjust any that needed it. He would not place Himself in a position where He is seen as a genocidal maniac. God has many options and would not make Himself break His own law of killing or murder.

The we are like computer programs or robots that can be adjusted and have no free will. People are immoral by the standard set forth by GOD. Love each other as you love yourself.

There is no evidence that they were as you describe and even if they were, that is no justification for genocide.

The Bible says their thoughts were only of evil continually.

Only a fool would look at 8 good and millions of bad in a species and decide that the 8 are the normal ones. It is the millions who would be normal and the 8 that were odd.

So the low standard of the world should be our standard. Not the High standard of GOD of perfect love and care for others?

I take it you think a flood justified. Under what condition is it OK to kill the large majority of a population?

Each person must be judged individually for the evil they have done and then to see if they have passed the point of no return. In each person's life there comes a point either at death or during live in which they cross the point where they have chosen death and will never repent. That judgment happen at the Flood and will again at the coming of JESUS.

Greatest I Am · Post by **Greatest I Am** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:30 am

samuelbb7 wrote:Howdy DL

If I have said that genocide was OK for man, it would have been tongue in cheek. Something I probably should not do because it is not always understood.
Genocide from what I can see has absolutely no value to man or God. If I were to believe the flood then some justification for it might be found but the way the myth is told we see no justification for such action. Indeed such action by anyone including God would be wrong and immoral.
But since all we do is in the will of GOD there is nothing immoral. At least that seems to be what you are saying.

GIA wrote
We do our own will, not always the will of God. He does not use that kind of control.

It would have been easy for God to adjust any that needed it. He would not place Himself in a position where He is seen as a genocidal maniac. God has many options and would not make Himself break His own law of killing or murder.
The we are like computer programs or robots that can be adjusted and have no free will. People are immoral by the standard set forth by GOD. Love each other as you love yourself.

There is no evidence that they were as you describe and even if they were, that is no justification for genocide.
The Bible says their thoughts were only of evil continually.

GIA wrote
Does this include the evil thoughts that the children and babies were thinking.
Does the fact that these souls were created by God not give God some responsibility for what His Perfect souls are doing?

Only a fool would look at 8 good and millions of bad in a species and decide that the 8 are the normal ones. It is the millions who would be normal and the 8 that were odd.
So the low standard of the world should be our standard. Not the High standard of GOD of perfect love and care for others?

GIA wrote
If 8 against millions indicates that the standard should be set by the 8 then whatever happened to majority rule?

I take it you think a flood justified. Under what condition is it OK to kill the large majority of a population?
Each person must be judged individually for the evil they have done and then to see if they have passed the point of no return. In each person's life there comes a point either at death or during live in which they cross the point where they have chosen death and will never repent. That judgment happen at the Flood and will again at the coming of JESUS.

I find it strange that you would believe in a God that has to keep coming back to kill more and more humans. Do you think that He will ever get things right?
When did God allow all this imperfection to mare Perfection He started with?
Is this not God back sliding?

Regards
DL