Was Paul a trinitarin?

[2timothy316]

Paul wrote much of the Greek scriptures. Was his goal to teach the trinity?

[2timothy316]

The earliest known complete list of the NT was was dated 367 AD (Wikipedia), how come Timothy was able to read the Bible (a complete book of OT & NT) where he died around the year AD 97?(Wikipedia)

Oh wow, you didn't know that the letters that Paul, Matthew, Mark, etc wrote were circulated around the congregations before they were compiled into one book? Just having the letters complied into one book doesn't mean there weren't read by others before that....do you understand this?

[Capbook]

The earliest known complete list of the NT was was dated 367 AD (Wikipedia), how come Timothy was able to read the Bible (a complete book of OT & NT) where he died around the year AD 97?(Wikipedia)

Oh wow, you didn't know that the letters that Paul, Matthew, Mark, etc wrote were circulated around the congregations before they were compiled into one book? Just having the letters complied into one book doesn't mean there weren't read by others before that....do you understand this?

Does your Bible NT consist only of 3 book? or 27 books?

I really do believe you are not familiar with the Tanakh.
Your first argument is that the "law and the prophets" as Bible.
The Law, the Prophets and the Psalms in Luke 24:44 is the Jewish Scriptures (Tanakh), the Law, the Prophets and the Writings.
In Hebrew that is the Torah, Niviim and Ketuvim.

[2timothy316]

The earliest known complete list of the NT was was dated 367 AD (Wikipedia), how come Timothy was able to read the Bible (a complete book of OT & NT) where he died around the year AD 97?(Wikipedia)

Oh wow, you didn't know that the letters that Paul, Matthew, Mark, etc wrote were circulated around the congregations before they were compiled into one book? Just having the letters complied into one book doesn't mean there weren't read by others before that....do you understand this?

Does your Bible NT consist only of 3 book? or 27 books?

I really do believe you are not familiar with the Tanakh.
Your first argument is that the "law and the prophets" as Bible.
The Law, the Prophets and the Psalms in Luke 24:44 is the Jewish Scriptures (Tanakh), the Law, the Prophets and the Writings.
In Hebrew that is the Torah, Niviim and Ketuvim.

Where did you get 3 books? I mentioned 3 writers but those writers wrote more than one book. Do you accept that scriptures were being written while Paul was alive? Note that Paul said ALL scripture was inspired. Do you understand that would include the very letter to Timothy he was writing is a scripture?

[servant1]

[Replying to 1213 in post #2]


No Israelite EVER served a trinity when serving the true living God.

[Peterlag7]

[Replying to 1213 in post #2]

There is not one verse that says Jesus is God the Son. Nor has there ever been a teaching on it anywhere in the Bible. The Jews never saw it anywhere in the entire Old Testament nor anyone in the New Testament ever taught it. The Catholics who invented this nonsense have used only about 8 verses that they have to piece together from statements that are scattered all over the New Testament. One should think if such nonsense was true and important that it would have been taught by someone. And it is not.

There's no teaching on the trinity anywhere in the Bible. No whole paragraph or chapter teaching that we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

[Capbook]

The earliest known complete list of the NT was was dated 367 AD (Wikipedia), how come Timothy was able to read the Bible (a complete book of OT & NT) where he died around the year AD 97?(Wikipedia)

Oh wow, you didn't know that the letters that Paul, Matthew, Mark, etc wrote were circulated around the congregations before they were compiled into one book? Just having the letters complied into one book doesn't mean there weren't read by others before that....do you understand this?

Does your Bible NT consist only of 3 book? or 27 books?

I really do believe you are not familiar with the Tanakh.
Your first argument is that the "law and the prophets" as Bible.
The Law, the Prophets and the Psalms in Luke 24:44 is the Jewish Scriptures (Tanakh), the Law, the Prophets and the Writings.
In Hebrew that is the Torah, Niviim and Ketuvim.

Where did you get 3 books? I mentioned 3 writers but those writers wrote more than one book. Do you accept that scriptures were being written while Paul was alive? Note that Paul said ALL scripture was inspired. Do you understand that would include the very letter to Timothy he was writing is a scripture?

I will confirm first to you if, are you familiar of the Jewish Scripture the Tanakh?

[2timothy316]

The earliest known complete list of the NT was was dated 367 AD (Wikipedia), how come Timothy was able to read the Bible (a complete book of OT & NT) where he died around the year AD 97?(Wikipedia)

Oh wow, you didn't know that the letters that Paul, Matthew, Mark, etc wrote were circulated around the congregations before they were compiled into one book? Just having the letters complied into one book doesn't mean there weren't read by others before that....do you understand this?

Does your Bible NT consist only of 3 book? or 27 books?

I really do believe you are not familiar with the Tanakh.
Your first argument is that the "law and the prophets" as Bible.
The Law, the Prophets and the Psalms in Luke 24:44 is the Jewish Scriptures (Tanakh), the Law, the Prophets and the Writings.
In Hebrew that is the Torah, Niviim and Ketuvim.

Where did you get 3 books? I mentioned 3 writers but those writers wrote more than one book. Do you accept that scriptures were being written while Paul was alive? Note that Paul said ALL scripture was inspired. Do you understand that would include the very letter to Timothy he was writing is a scripture?

I will confirm first to you if, are you familiar of the Jewish Scripture the Tanakh?

I don't play childish games of 'I'll answer if you do xyz first.' Don't change the subject. This whole thread is about Paul. If you don't want to answer the question you don't have to. Whether you except Paul's letter to Timothy as scripture or not you can keep it to yourself. You don't have to share it with me. However, it does put your argument on pause by not quickly accepting Paul's writing as holy scripture as I have. Until you do give your position there is nothing more to discuss here.

[Capbook]

The earliest known complete list of the NT was was dated 367 AD (Wikipedia), how come Timothy was able to read the Bible (a complete book of OT & NT) where he died around the year AD 97?(Wikipedia)

Oh wow, you didn't know that the letters that Paul, Matthew, Mark, etc wrote were circulated around the congregations before they were compiled into one book? Just having the letters complied into one book doesn't mean there weren't read by others before that....do you understand this?

Does your Bible NT consist only of 3 book? or 27 books?

I really do believe you are not familiar with the Tanakh.
Your first argument is that the "law and the prophets" as Bible.
The Law, the Prophets and the Psalms in Luke 24:44 is the Jewish Scriptures (Tanakh), the Law, the Prophets and the Writings.
In Hebrew that is the Torah, Niviim and Ketuvim.

Where did you get 3 books? I mentioned 3 writers but those writers wrote more than one book. Do you accept that scriptures were being written while Paul was alive? Note that Paul said ALL scripture was inspired. Do you understand that would include the very letter to Timothy he was writing is a scripture?

I will confirm first to you if, are you familiar of the Jewish Scripture the Tanakh?

I don't play childish games of 'I'll answer if you do xyz first.' Don't change the subject. This whole thread is about Paul. If you don't want to answer the question you don't have to. Whether you except Paul's letter to Timothy as scripture or not you can keep it to yourself. You don't have to share it with me. However, it does put your argument on pause by not quickly accepting Paul's writing as holy scripture as I have. Until you do give your position there is nothing more to discuss here.

Did you not interpret "law and prophets" as the Bible? Yes or no.
I just believe that your Governing Body had not, yet teach about the Tanakh.

Paul is Trinitarian, lexicon define "Godhead" in Greek "theios" in Acts 17:29 as the Trinity.
And even apostle John in John 1:1, lexicon define God, in Greek "theos" also as Trinity.
Bible lexicons gives definition and meaning of Bible words at the time of its usage.
Though we cannot find "Trinity" in the Bible just like the word "Bible", but the meaning provide it.
And apostles had not read the NT, see below with link.

θεῖος theios
Thayer Definition:
1) a general name of deities or divinities as used by the Greeks
2) spoken of the only and true God, trinity
2a) of Christ
2b) Holy Spirit
2c) the Father

Act 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

While the New Testament is considered to contain teachings and stories primarily based on the life and ministry of Jesus as witnessed by his apostles, the New Testament itself was not "read by the apostles" in the sense that they personally wrote down the entire collection of books; most scholars agree that the books were written after the apostles' lifetimes.
https://www.google.com/search?q=are+the ... e&ie=UTF-8

[2timothy316]

[Replying to Capbook in post #58]

You're still avoiding the question. Goodbye, you're on my ignore list now. I will no longer see your posts anymore.

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #58]

You're still avoiding the question. Goodbye, you're on my ignore list now. I will no longer see your posts anymore.

Some when lost an arguments ran.
Scholars considered NT as Scriptures as early as AD 200, long after Timothy died. See below with link.
So what they read during their lifetime is the Tanakh, Jewish Scripures.
That finds your "law and prophet" interpretation wrong.

Some scholars believe that the New Testament was considered scripture as early as AD 200.
https://www.google.com/search?q=is+new+ ... e&ie=UTF-8