What is the origin and destiny of man?

[Revelations won]

What is the origin and destiny of man?


The title deals with:

Our origin (when we first existed.)


Why are we here in our mortal state?


What is our eternal ultimate destiny?


Let us hear your full and complete answers to the above questions.

[Capbook]

Yes, human's were originally designed to live happily on earth.

The age of the earth is about 4.54 billion years. But Adam and Eve can be traced back to a mere 6,000 years.

And in the creation described in detail in Genesis, Adam and Eve were created on the sixth day of that creation process.

So it appears that Adam and Eve were not even part of the original creation which occurred 4.54 billion years ago.

They would have to be created and designed to live happily on earth in the re-creation of the earth which occurred about 6,000 ago.

Yes, humans were designed to live happily on the earth, nut not in the original creation.

Man was in Plan B.

Is Genesis 1:1, 4.54 billion years to you?

Within that general range.

Genesis 1:1 does not say re-creation. It simply said God created the heaven and the earth.
Your statement I colored blue would be correct if you change "re-creation" to "created".

Genesis 1:1 is all that is said about the original creation of the earth roughly 4.54 billion years ago.

But Adam and Eve can be traced back to only about 6,000 years ago.

So the six day period of creation in which Adam and Eve were created would be a re-creation as it was not part of the original creation in Genesis 1:1.

The earth was created in Genesis 1:1, and it had become empty, void, and dark as described in Genesis 1:2.

So God returned about 6,000 years ago and re-created the earth to its original very good condition and created mankind to replenish the earth.

Genesis 1:28
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 1:1 was the original creation, and Genesis 1:3 begins a re-creation of an existing earth which had become empty, void, and dark.

I am a little confused of your response.
May I know your interpretation of "day" in creation week, is it a 24 hours or another?

[myth-one.com]

Yes, human's were originally designed to live happily on earth.

The age of the earth is about 4.54 billion years. But Adam and Eve can be traced back to a mere 6,000 years.

And in the creation described in detail in Genesis, Adam and Eve were created on the sixth day of that creation process.

So it appears that Adam and Eve were not even part of the original creation which occurred 4.54 billion years ago.

They would have to be created and designed to live happily on earth in the re-creation of the earth which occurred about 6,000 ago.

Yes, humans were designed to live happily on the earth, nut not in the original creation.

Man was in Plan B.

Is Genesis 1:1, 4.54 billion years to you?

Within that general range.

Genesis 1:1 does not say re-creation. It simply said God created the heaven and the earth.
Your statement I colored blue would be correct if you change "re-creation" to "created".

Genesis 1:1 is all that is said about the original creation of the earth roughly 4.54 billion years ago.

But Adam and Eve can be traced back to only about 6,000 years ago.

So the six day period of creation in which Adam and Eve were created would be a re-creation as it was not part of the original creation in Genesis 1:1.

The earth was created in Genesis 1:1, and it had become empty, void, and dark as described in Genesis 1:2.

So God returned about 6,000 years ago and re-created the earth to its original very good condition and created mankind to replenish the earth.

Genesis 1:28
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 1:1 was the original creation, and Genesis 1:3 begins a re-creation of an existing earth which had become empty, void, and dark.

I am a little confused of your response.
May I know your interpretation of "day" in creation week, is it a 24 hours or another?

Yes, a day in the creation week is "an evening and a morning," or a day, or 24 hours.

[Revelations won]

To all respondeents,

May I suggest that mo one can actually prove that the earth was created 4.5 billion years ago or any other date. To arrive at such a answer one would of necessity have to demonstrate that there was a specific date when matter was brought into existence.

Matter cannot be created , the elements are eternal and will exist eternally. Matter cannot be destroyed, but can through various processescan have it's atomic structure changed. To claim otherwise one would need to demonstrate and document with verifiable evidence.

Our creator is also the master of Allis creations, he indeed is the master chemist. For example when he changed water to wine, there was not magic performed, but rather with his knowledge and power he could command the atomic structure of water to become wine. the elements obeyed and wine was the result.

Another example was during a massive tempest on the sea when the ship was about to sink, he simply commanded the elements to be calm. The elements obeyed and the sea was instantly calmed.

There are many examples of this "God science" given throughout the scriptures. Most are largely ignorant of this process because they are unlearned in the "mysteries of godliness". The Holy Ghost is a testator and revealer of ALL truth. Since the vast majority have rejected this heavenly gift and deny revelation past or present, then they have chosen their self imposed ignorance in these matters.

[onewithhim]

Yes, human's were originally designed to live happily on earth.

The age of the earth is about 4.54 billion years. But Adam and Eve can be traced back to a mere 6,000 years.

And in the creation described in detail in Genesis, Adam and Eve were created on the sixth day of that creation process.

So it appears that Adam and Eve were not even part of the original creation which occurred 4.54 billion years ago.

They would have to be created and designed to live happily on earth in the re-creation of the earth which occurred about 6,000 ago.

Yes, humans were designed to live happily on the earth, nut not in the original creation.

Man was in Plan B.

Is Genesis 1:1, 4.54 billion years to you?

Within that general range.

Genesis 1:1 does not say re-creation. It simply said God created the heaven and the earth.
Your statement I colored blue would be correct if you change "re-creation" to "created".

Genesis 1:1 is all that is said about the original creation of the earth roughly 4.54 billion years ago.

But Adam and Eve can be traced back to only about 6,000 years ago.

So the six day period of creation in which Adam and Eve were created would be a re-creation as it was not part of the original creation in Genesis 1:1.

The earth was created in Genesis 1:1, and it had become empty, void, and dark as described in Genesis 1:2.

So God returned about 6,000 years ago and re-created the earth to its original very good condition and created mankind to replenish the earth.

Genesis 1:28
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 1:1 was the original creation, and Genesis 1:3 begins a re-creation of an existing earth which had become empty, void, and dark.

I am a little confused of your response.
May I know your interpretation of "day" in creation week, is it a 24 hours or another?

Yes, a day in the creation week is "an evening and a morning," or a day, or 24 hours.

A "day" in the creation "week" is of undetermined length, a "day" simply meaning an end and a beginning. We can see that a "day" is not necessarily 24 hours when we look at Genesis 2:4 which says, "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven." So did all the creation happen in a literal day? It's obvious that "day" is of unknown establishment.

[myth-one.com]

A day in the creation week is "an evening and a morning," or a day, or 24 hours.

A "day" in the creation "week" is of undetermined length, a "day" simply meaning an end and a beginning.

No, a day in the creation week is very well defined repeatedly in Genesis as "an evening and a morning."

We can see that a "day" is not necessarily 24 hours when we look at Genesis 2:4ch says, "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven."

Genesis 2:4 states that this is the history of the heavens and the earth back in the day in which they were created.

So did all the creation happen in a literal day?

No, it required six days.

It's obvious that "day" is of unknown establishment.

And the evening and the morning were the first day.
And the evening and the morning were the second day.
And the evening and the morning were the third day.
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

What do you not understand about that?

There's also a commandment regarding this issue:

Exodus 20:

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.



If you work for six undetermined periods of time, then rest on the seventh undetermined amount of time, then you are doing it incorrectly.

[onewithhim]

A day in the creation week is "an evening and a morning," or a day, or 24 hours.

A "day" in the creation "week" is of undetermined length, a "day" simply meaning an end and a beginning.

No, a day in the creation week is very well defined repeatedly in Genesis as "an evening and a morning."

We can see that a "day" is not necessarily 24 hours when we look at Genesis 2:4ch says, "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven."

Genesis 2:4 states that this is the history of the heavens and the earth back in the day in which they were created.

So did all the creation happen in a literal day?

No, it required six days.

The scripture says "in the DAY," a single day. This shows that a "day" is an undetermined period of time. You say it took 6 days to create everything, 6 literal days. That doesn't even seem reasonable. Especially when we read Genesis 2:4 which says "in the DAY" that God created the heavens and the earth. It just means a period of time, undetermined in length. The same goes, of course, for the "six days" of creation.

[myth-one.com]

A day in the creation week is "an evening and a morning," or a day, or 24 hours.

A "day" in the creation "week" is of undetermined length, a "day" simply meaning an end and a beginning.

No, a day in the creation week is very well defined repeatedly in Genesis as "an evening and a morning."

We can see that a "day" is not necessarily 24 hours when we look at Genesis 2:4ch says, "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven."

Genesis 2:4 states that this is the history of the heavens and the earth back in the day in which they were created.

So did all the creation happen in a literal day?

No, it required six days.

The scripture says "in the DAY," a single day. This shows that a "day" is an undetermined period of time. You say it took 6 days to create everything, 6 literal days. That doesn't even seem reasonable.

I'm quoting the Bible as saying that it took 6 literal days to perform the re-creation of the earth.

Especially when we read Genesis 2:4 which says "in the DAY" that God created the heavens and the earth. It just means a period of time, undetermined in length. The same goes, of course, for the "six days" of creation.

Here's a translation which might be easier for you to understand:

These are the records of the heavens and the earth, concerning their creation. At the time that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, (Genesis 2:4 CSB)
CSB

[onewithhim]

A day in the creation week is "an evening and a morning," or a day, or 24 hours.

A "day" in the creation "week" is of undetermined length, a "day" simply meaning an end and a beginning.

No, a day in the creation week is very well defined repeatedly in Genesis as "an evening and a morning."

We can see that a "day" is not necessarily 24 hours when we look at Genesis 2:4ch says, "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven."

Genesis 2:4 states that this is the history of the heavens and the earth back in the day in which they were created.

So did all the creation happen in a literal day?

No, it required six days.

The scripture says "in the DAY," a single day. This shows that a "day" is an undetermined period of time. You say it took 6 days to create everything, 6 literal days. That doesn't even seem reasonable.

I'm quoting the Bible as saying that it took 6 literal days to perform the re-creation of the earth.

Especially when we read Genesis 2:4 which says "in the DAY" that God created the heavens and the earth. It just means a period of time, undetermined in length. The same goes, of course, for the "six days" of creation.

Here's a translation which might be easier for you to understand:

These are the records of the heavens and the earth, concerning their creation. At the time that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, (Genesis 2:4 CSB)
CSB

Your version has taken liberties with the verse. The Interlinear Bible translated by J.P. Green, general editor, not a JW Interlinear, shows that the LITERAL translation is "in the day" that God was making the earth and the heavens. The original Hebrew uses the word "day." Anyway, that is what I've been saying---it was a general time period, not a 24 hour day.

[myth-one.com]

A day in the creation week is "an evening and a morning," or a day, or 24 hours.

A "day" in the creation "week" is of undetermined length, a "day" simply meaning an end and a beginning.

No, a day in the creation week is very well defined repeatedly in Genesis as "an evening and a morning."

We can see that a "day" is not necessarily 24 hours when we look at Genesis 2:4ch says, "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven."

Genesis 2:4 states that this is the history of the heavens and the earth back in the day in which they were created.

So did all the creation happen in a literal day?

No, it required six days.

The scripture says "in the DAY," a single day. This shows that a "day" is an undetermined period of time. You say it took 6 days to create everything, 6 literal days. That doesn't even seem reasonable.

I'm quoting the Bible as saying that it took 6 literal days to perform the re-creation of the earth.

Especially when we read Genesis 2:4 which says "in the DAY" that God created the heavens and the earth. It just means a period of time, undetermined in length. The same goes, of course, for the "six days" of creation.

Here's a translation which might be easier for you to understand:

These are the records of the heavens and the earth, concerning their creation. At the time that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, (Genesis 2:4 CSB)
CSB

Your version has taken liberties with the verse. The Interlinear Bible translated by J.P. Green, general editor, not a JW Interlinear, shows that the LITERAL translation is "in the day" that God was making the earth and the heavens. The original Hebrew uses the word "day." Anyway, that is what I've been saying---it was a general time period, not a 24 hour day.

"In the day" means "when".

[onewithhim]

A day in the creation week is "an evening and a morning," or a day, or 24 hours.

A "day" in the creation "week" is of undetermined length, a "day" simply meaning an end and a beginning.

No, a day in the creation week is very well defined repeatedly in Genesis as "an evening and a morning."

We can see that a "day" is not necessarily 24 hours when we look at Genesis 2:4ch says, "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven."

Genesis 2:4 states that this is the history of the heavens and the earth back in the day in which they were created.

So did all the creation happen in a literal day?

No, it required six days.

The scripture says "in the DAY," a single day. This shows that a "day" is an undetermined period of time. You say it took 6 days to create everything, 6 literal days. That doesn't even seem reasonable.

I'm quoting the Bible as saying that it took 6 literal days to perform the re-creation of the earth.

Especially when we read Genesis 2:4 which says "in the DAY" that God created the heavens and the earth. It just means a period of time, undetermined in length. The same goes, of course, for the "six days" of creation.

Here's a translation which might be easier for you to understand:

These are the records of the heavens and the earth, concerning their creation. At the time that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, (Genesis 2:4 CSB)
CSB

Your version has taken liberties with the verse. The Interlinear Bible translated by J.P. Green, general editor, not a JW Interlinear, shows that the LITERAL translation is "in the day" that God was making the earth and the heavens. The original Hebrew uses the word "day." Anyway, that is what I've been saying---it was a general time period, not a 24 hour day.

"In the day" means "when".

A time period of undetermined length, like we say, "In my Grandfather's day, he had to walk to school, etc."