Progressive Revelation

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Before the creation the first name we find in the Bible concerning God is, Elohim, “In the beginning God (Elohim)---.”

In Genesis 1, we equated the Hebrew Elohim a plural word with the Triune Godhead, Triune pointing to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The creation was not without witnesses, for there were three.
Acts 14:17, “He left not himself without witness, in that he did good, and gave us rain from heaven, and fruitful seasons, filling our hearts with food and gladness.”

From Genesis 1:2 and forward, we find the three-letter word, “God” singular. God meaning the Creator, the Almighty, omniscient, omnipresent, pure, and perfect being, who preserves and governs all things. The self-existent, unoriginated, independent, and eternal Jehovah, who has produced all things. Revelation 1:8, Jesus said, “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, --- which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.” He is the pure and perfect Spirit, he is known and clearly distinguished by the vast and stupendous works which he has made.

In Genesis 2:4 we come to another name for Deity. It's no longer “God” alone, but now, the “LORD God.” Note the title “LORD” is all in uppercase. Throughout chapter 1, He is called, “God,” but now in Genesis 2, He is called the “LORD God.” And who is this, LORD God? He is Jehovah, the Son of the Father in heaven, better known to us as Jesus. These titles serve a purpose; the LORD God knew there would one day be a plan implemented for our redemption. He saw the foolishness of the people, well before His coming in the flesh. He would not only need a plan of redemption but also someone who could communicate directly with men. So, what did the LORD do? He came down from His throne in heaven to dwell among men. 1 Timothy 3:16, K.J.B. “God (Jehovah) was manifest (appeared or showed himself openly) in the flesh.”

Philippians 2:7, He Jesus “made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant; and was made in the likeness of men.” Matthew 1:23, “And they (the Jews) shall call his name Immanuel, which being interpreted is God with us.” Also, John 1:1, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." In verse 14, "And the Word was made flesh..." Jesus put into action His plan of redemption.

In Genesis 12, about the year 1900 B.C. Jehovah is seen intrinsically as the God of Abraham. He will deal specifically with the nation of Israel and its people. So, when the Bible reads, “The God of Abraham,” and “The God of Isaac,” it’s referring to Jehovah! LORD and Jehovah are always synonymous. Throughout Scripture, we find that Jehovah is the God of all. Abraham was born a gentile, and in Genesis 14:18, Abraham addresses God as the Most-high God. So, whenever you see the Hebrew term “The Most-high God,” it's making a point that God is, “The God of all.”

Moving forward in Genesis, we find Jehovah becomes everything the nation of Israel could ever hope for in their spiritual and physical needs.
Genesis 22:14: takes place about the year 1850 B.C. As time passes, we find Abraham is well acquainted with Jehovah; but now, Jehovah has an added title behind it, Jehovah-Jireh. No one knew this name until then, it means, “the LORD will provide.” The LORD provided the sacrifice when He spared Isaac, Abraham’s son. God held back Abraham's hand and kept him from sacrificing his son Isaac. Question, what did Abraham see in the thicket when he turned around? … a ram caught by the horns in a thicket! So, Abraham called Him, Jehovah-Jireh because Jehovah provided the sacrifice.

About the year 1320 B.C., Israel came out of Egypt under Moses, the first thing God promised them (Israel) was, if they were obedient, He would be their healing. So, he is called Jehovah-ropheka, meaning, “He who would be their Healer.” Jehovah would be their spiritual Healer, as well as their physical healer. When the Jews were in Egypt, He said, "None of these diseases that were in Egypt will come upon you."

In the year, 1320 B.C., we read the name Jehovah-Nissi in Exodus 15:17. Israel had come up against their first opposition - the Amalekites. Having left Egypt, they were on their way to Sinai and were fighting the Amalekites. As long as Moses held his arms up, the battle went for Israel. As soon as they came down, the battle went against Israel. Who came to help Moses? Aaron and Hur held up Moses' arms until the battle was won. When the fight was over, they declared that God was their Jehovah-Nissi. He was, “Their Banner,” and as long as the banner was lifted to heaven, the Jewish fighters pressed on.

Around the year 1160 B.C., we come to another title for God, Jehovah-Shalom, which in Hebrew means “peace.” It was Gideon who first received this name for God. Israel had come to a point of decline. The Jews were going after false gods - and the Midianites from the east were overrunning their crops and taking their children captive. It was then, that Israel began to cry to Jehovah for help, so the LORD raised up Gideon. He told Gideon, that the only way to achieve peace was to return to Jehovah and defeat the Midianites with His help; then, they could have “Shalom,” meaning “peace.”

Now we come to, Jehovah-tsidkenu – “He is our Righteousness.” The Jews had nothing without Him, so He would one day be all the righteousness Israel would ever need in Jesus Christ.

About 1000 B.C. in Psalms 23, we read the word “roi,” in the Hebrew it means “Shepherd.” "The Lord is my Shepherd." So, in the Hebrew, “Shepard,” is Jehovah-roi; “I am your Shepherd.” Again, this was an inherent need for the Nation of Israel. Jesus said, John 10:14, “I am the good shepherd,”

The seventh title for Jehovah God is found in Jeremiah 23, it’s, “Jehovah-shammah,” Jeremiah was written between 627 and 586 B.C. This name means, “The LORD is there.” This name refers to the setting up of His kingdom, He will be present, as Revelation 19, “KING of KINGS, and LORD of LORDS.”

The LORD does everything in sevens; therefore, the seven explicit needs of Israel have been met by the seven-fold operation of Jehovah's names.

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In Jesus is the fullness of godship bodily. He is not God but has attributes of God, making him full of God's qualities. Thayer is not to be accepted as the be all and end all. Many versions of the Bible eschew the term "Godhead" and render that phrase as "For in him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form." It certainly doesn't mean that Jesus is God. Look at Colossians 3:1b: "Keep seeking the things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God." (NASB) Would Jesus be sitting at his own right hand?

There is no difference between Godhead and Deity, the Greek of both still is in Greek "theotes" which means being in the state of being God.
And Jesus had said that all that the Father has is mine. If the Father is God, that would also mean Jesus is in the state of being God.
Bible word "has" in Greek "echo" means as to have, to hold, own, posses etc.
If you don't refer to Bible lexicons to Bible word meaning, you will be misguided.

Jhn 16:15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

You are not commenting on my post at all. You are not answering me. I said that Jesus is "seated at the right hand of God," and I asked you, "Would Jesus be sitting at his own right hand?"

I do not say that Jesus is the Father.
I'd said that Jesus and the Father are the same in the state of being God.

You say that Jesus is God. That means that he is sitting at his own right hand if he is God.

So....Jesus is NOT God, and that is why he can sit at the right hand of God.

Jesus himself said that only the Father is God. (John 17:3; John 20:17; Revelation 3:12)

If Jesus is also God, then there are two Gods. Ad the Holy Spirit and there are three Gods.

I think you understand or just refuse to understand that all people are the same and "one in the state of being human.
If you cannot understand the statement above, how much more with the word of God then.
The Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one in the state of being God.(Mat 28:19)(Col 2:9)
I believe that is hard to digest by those who hold the Arian's belief, more specially when cannot comprehend the first sentence above.

I will say the exact same thing about your understanding. You seem unable to reason about anything presented to you. We have discussed Matthew 28:19 and Colossians 2:9 at length, yet you don't reason with JWs, you just keep quoting the verses.

Matt. 28:19 says nothing about the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all being equal, or all being God. Colossians 2:9 has brought from JWs a plethora of examples of translations where "Godhead" is not used, and give an entirely different meaning than what you espouse.

I do quote God's word, specially Mat 28:19, for the three are separately mentioned. You rely on Moffatt which is not a word for word translation. That might be the reason why some are misguided.
JWs interpret the Holy Spirit as breath, force and power of God. Mentioned formally by Jesus in John 14:26.
Do you mention or present your own breath, force and power to your friends separately?

Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you

What are word-for-word translations? Can you name them? I don't think there are any except Interlinear Bibles.

What is the Holy Spirit's name, if it is a Person? Every person has a name.

I can post many, like the ESV that does not follow its textual basis of KJV, those translations that follows Codex Vaticanus, and etc.

The English Standard Version (ESV) of the Bible is an essentially literal translation that emphasizes word-for-word accuracy. It's intended to reproduce the original text's precise wording and the style of each Bible writer. https://www.google.com/search?q=is+esv+ ... e&ie=UTF-8

In Christianity, the Holy Spirit is most commonly referred to as simply "the Holy Spirit," but in the New Testament, Jesus often called it the "Paraclete," which translates to "Helper" or "Advocate" in Greek; this is considered one of the primary names for the Holy Spirit.https://www.google.com/search?q=is+esv+ ... e&ie=UTF-8

Those aren't names, they are TITLES.

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There is no difference between Godhead and Deity, the Greek of both still is in Greek "theotes" which means being in the state of being God.
And Jesus had said that all that the Father has is mine. If the Father is God, that would also mean Jesus is in the state of being God.
Bible word "has" in Greek "echo" means as to have, to hold, own, posses etc.
If you don't refer to Bible lexicons to Bible word meaning, you will be misguided.

Jhn 16:15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

You are not commenting on my post at all. You are not answering me. I said that Jesus is "seated at the right hand of God," and I asked you, "Would Jesus be sitting at his own right hand?"

I do not say that Jesus is the Father.
I'd said that Jesus and the Father are the same in the state of being God.

You say that Jesus is God. That means that he is sitting at his own right hand if he is God.

So....Jesus is NOT God, and that is why he can sit at the right hand of God.

Jesus himself said that only the Father is God. (John 17:3; John 20:17; Revelation 3:12)

If Jesus is also God, then there are two Gods. Ad the Holy Spirit and there are three Gods.

I think you understand or just refuse to understand that all people are the same and "one in the state of being human.
If you cannot understand the statement above, how much more with the word of God then.
The Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one in the state of being God.(Mat 28:19)(Col 2:9)
I believe that is hard to digest by those who hold the Arian's belief, more specially when cannot comprehend the first sentence above.

I will say the exact same thing about your understanding. You seem unable to reason about anything presented to you. We have discussed Matthew 28:19 and Colossians 2:9 at length, yet you don't reason with JWs, you just keep quoting the verses.

Matt. 28:19 says nothing about the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all being equal, or all being God. Colossians 2:9 has brought from JWs a plethora of examples of translations where "Godhead" is not used, and give an entirely different meaning than what you espouse.

I do quote God's word, specially Mat 28:19, for the three are separately mentioned. You rely on Moffatt which is not a word for word translation. That might be the reason why some are misguided.
JWs interpret the Holy Spirit as breath, force and power of God. Mentioned formally by Jesus in John 14:26.
Do you mention or present your own breath, force and power to your friends separately?

Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you

What are word-for-word translations? Can you name them? I don't think there are any except Interlinear Bibles.

What is the Holy Spirit's name, if it is a Person? Every person has a name.

I can post many, like the ESV that does not follow its textual basis of KJV, those translations that follows Codex Vaticanus, and etc.

The English Standard Version (ESV) of the Bible is an essentially literal translation that emphasizes word-for-word accuracy. It's intended to reproduce the original text's precise wording and the style of each Bible writer. https://www.google.com/search?q=is+esv+ ... e&ie=UTF-8

In Christianity, the Holy Spirit is most commonly referred to as simply "the Holy Spirit," but in the New Testament, Jesus often called it the "Paraclete," which translates to "Helper" or "Advocate" in Greek; this is considered one of the primary names for the Holy Spirit.https://www.google.com/search?q=is+esv+ ... e&ie=UTF-8

Those aren't names, they are TITLES.

I provide link to my answer.
Your reply just your own, just because you said it, then it is true?
Provide proof from neutral ground please.

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You are not commenting on my post at all. You are not answering me. I said that Jesus is "seated at the right hand of God," and I asked you, "Would Jesus be sitting at his own right hand?"

I do not say that Jesus is the Father.
I'd said that Jesus and the Father are the same in the state of being God.

You say that Jesus is God. That means that he is sitting at his own right hand if he is God.

So....Jesus is NOT God, and that is why he can sit at the right hand of God.

Jesus himself said that only the Father is God. (John 17:3; John 20:17; Revelation 3:12)

If Jesus is also God, then there are two Gods. Ad the Holy Spirit and there are three Gods.

I think you understand or just refuse to understand that all people are the same and "one in the state of being human.
If you cannot understand the statement above, how much more with the word of God then.
The Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one in the state of being God.(Mat 28:19)(Col 2:9)
I believe that is hard to digest by those who hold the Arian's belief, more specially when cannot comprehend the first sentence above.

I will say the exact same thing about your understanding. You seem unable to reason about anything presented to you. We have discussed Matthew 28:19 and Colossians 2:9 at length, yet you don't reason with JWs, you just keep quoting the verses.

Matt. 28:19 says nothing about the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all being equal, or all being God. Colossians 2:9 has brought from JWs a plethora of examples of translations where "Godhead" is not used, and give an entirely different meaning than what you espouse.

I do quote God's word, specially Mat 28:19, for the three are separately mentioned. You rely on Moffatt which is not a word for word translation. That might be the reason why some are misguided.
JWs interpret the Holy Spirit as breath, force and power of God. Mentioned formally by Jesus in John 14:26.
Do you mention or present your own breath, force and power to your friends separately?

Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you

What are word-for-word translations? Can you name them? I don't think there are any except Interlinear Bibles.

What is the Holy Spirit's name, if it is a Person? Every person has a name.

I can post many, like the ESV that does not follow its textual basis of KJV, those translations that follows Codex Vaticanus, and etc.

The English Standard Version (ESV) of the Bible is an essentially literal translation that emphasizes word-for-word accuracy. It's intended to reproduce the original text's precise wording and the style of each Bible writer. https://www.google.com/search?q=is+esv+ ... e&ie=UTF-8

In Christianity, the Holy Spirit is most commonly referred to as simply "the Holy Spirit," but in the New Testament, Jesus often called it the "Paraclete," which translates to "Helper" or "Advocate" in Greek; this is considered one of the primary names for the Holy Spirit.https://www.google.com/search?q=is+esv+ ... e&ie=UTF-8

Those aren't names, they are TITLES.

I provide link to my answer.
Your reply just your own, just because you said it, then it is true?
Provide proof from neutral ground please.

It is widely accepted that those are TITLES and not names. For example, my son can be a "helper" or an "advocate." But his name is Douglas.

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I do not say that Jesus is the Father.
I'd said that Jesus and the Father are the same in the state of being God.

You say that Jesus is God. That means that he is sitting at his own right hand if he is God.

So....Jesus is NOT God, and that is why he can sit at the right hand of God.

Jesus himself said that only the Father is God. (John 17:3; John 20:17; Revelation 3:12)

If Jesus is also God, then there are two Gods. Ad the Holy Spirit and there are three Gods.

I think you understand or just refuse to understand that all people are the same and "one in the state of being human.
If you cannot understand the statement above, how much more with the word of God then.
The Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one in the state of being God.(Mat 28:19)(Col 2:9)
I believe that is hard to digest by those who hold the Arian's belief, more specially when cannot comprehend the first sentence above.

I will say the exact same thing about your understanding. You seem unable to reason about anything presented to you. We have discussed Matthew 28:19 and Colossians 2:9 at length, yet you don't reason with JWs, you just keep quoting the verses.

Matt. 28:19 says nothing about the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all being equal, or all being God. Colossians 2:9 has brought from JWs a plethora of examples of translations where "Godhead" is not used, and give an entirely different meaning than what you espouse.

I do quote God's word, specially Mat 28:19, for the three are separately mentioned. You rely on Moffatt which is not a word for word translation. That might be the reason why some are misguided.
JWs interpret the Holy Spirit as breath, force and power of God. Mentioned formally by Jesus in John 14:26.
Do you mention or present your own breath, force and power to your friends separately?

Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you

What are word-for-word translations? Can you name them? I don't think there are any except Interlinear Bibles.

What is the Holy Spirit's name, if it is a Person? Every person has a name.

I can post many, like the ESV that does not follow its textual basis of KJV, those translations that follows Codex Vaticanus, and etc.

The English Standard Version (ESV) of the Bible is an essentially literal translation that emphasizes word-for-word accuracy. It's intended to reproduce the original text's precise wording and the style of each Bible writer. https://www.google.com/search?q=is+esv+ ... e&ie=UTF-8

In Christianity, the Holy Spirit is most commonly referred to as simply "the Holy Spirit," but in the New Testament, Jesus often called it the "Paraclete," which translates to "Helper" or "Advocate" in Greek; this is considered one of the primary names for the Holy Spirit.https://www.google.com/search?q=is+esv+ ... e&ie=UTF-8

Those aren't names, they are TITLES.

I provide link to my answer.
Your reply just your own, just because you said it, then it is true?
Provide proof from neutral ground please.

It is widely accepted that those are TITLES and not names. For example, my son can be a "helper" or an "advocate." But his name is Douglas.

Where does it say, that it is widely accepted. I provide link, you have none.
You have to prove it, that's what they call deeper study. Not just your own words.