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Post #31
myth-one.com wrote:I think I may know your dad. Is his first name Benny?
God.oldkjv wrote:How did you know????????
Post #32
....guess & google.myth-one.com wrote:myth-one.com wrote:I think I may know your dad. Is his first name Benny?God.oldkjv wrote:How did you know????????
"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
Post #33
It really sounds ridiculous and pathetic when you so strongly assert how right your book is and how wrong their books are when you can't provide intellectually sound reasons for your certainty but provide only the same kind of evidence that one billion Muslims and I don't know how many Mormons would provide.Benoni wrote:The Bible is divine, the Qu'ran and the Book of Mormon are not. You see the Bible has hidden symbolism from Genesis to Revelation. Take spiritual numbers. The number twelve in the Bible speaks of divine goverment; where numbers in these other religious books have no meaning. The God of the Bible hides Himself in spiritual ways that religousus books have no clue.
I agree with you that the Qur'an and the Book of Mormon are not divine.
But can you come up with anything to support your certainty that the Bible is divine that that would impress someone who is not a babe? In other words someone who is not credulous, gullible, childish, mentally immature, (as you say has not grown up and 'matured').
Muslims would say exactly the same kinds of things in support of the Qur'an and provide (non)evidence of exactly the same quality as you have. Why should we believe you and not them. Why would you and them not both be dismissed equally?
I am a-Santa-ist, a-Satan-ist, a-Toothfairy-ist, a-EasterBunny-ist, but anti-theist. I believe in the scientific method. I believe that whipping a woman with a bicycle chain for leaving the house without a chaperon is immoral and I know without having to consider it relative to anything. I believe faith is unreasonable belief. I believe that I believe none of this on faith.
Post #34
Call it ridiculous and pathetic, but please show me why? There is nothing intellectual about what is divine; it is spiritual and hidden. I have debated Muslins on a one on one debate and they could not give me one shred of evidence the Qu'ran was divine or even spiritual, they treat it like most Christians treat the Bible "literally".alsarg72 wrote:It really sounds ridiculous and pathetic when you so strongly assert how right your book is and how wrong their books are when you can't provide intellectually sound reasons for your certainty but provide only the same kind of evidence that one billion Muslims and I don't know how many Mormons would provide.Benoni wrote:The Bible is divine, the Qu'ran and the Book of Mormon are not. You see the Bible has hidden symbolism from Genesis to Revelation. Take spiritual numbers. The number twelve in the Bible speaks of divine goverment; where numbers in these other religious books have no meaning. The God of the Bible hides Himself in spiritual ways that religousus books have no clue.
I agree with you that the Qur'an and the Book of Mormon are not divine.
But can you come up with anything to support your certainty that the Bible is divine that that would impress someone who is not a babe? In other words someone who is not credulous, gullible, childish, mentally immature, (as you say has not grown up and 'matured').
Muslims would say exactly the same kinds of things in support of the Qur'an and provide (non)evidence of exactly the same quality as you have. Why should we believe you and not them. Why would you and them not both be dismissed equally?
Post #35
Exactly my point. You know why you dismiss their beliefs, so you should understand why I dismiss yours. And I bet the Muslims thought you gave them not one shred of evidence that the Bible is divine. Both are equally baseless. They are on a par with a child's belief in Santa, the difference being that when a child matures their childish belief is no longer reinforced because Santa lacks the aparatus of a church and the critical mass of numbers of followers who cling to their belief.
Post #36
Well I see I am waisting my time we really do not have anything to say to each other.alsarg72 wrote:Exactly my point. You know why you dismiss their beliefs, so you should understand why I dismiss yours. And I bet the Muslims thought you gave them not one shred of evidence that the Bible is divine. Both are equally baseless. They are on a par with a child's belief in Santa, the difference being that when a child matures their childish belief is no longer reinforced because Santa lacks the aparatus of a church and the critical mass of numbers of followers who cling to their belief.
Post #37
Benoni wrote:There is nothing intellectual about what is divine; it is spiritual and hidden.
Unfortunately yes Benoni. Debating is intellectual.Benoni wrote:Well I see I am waisting my time we really do not have anything to say to each other.
Post #38
Sorry you are wrong. God is a spirit not a brain.alsarg72 wrote:Benoni wrote:There is nothing intellectual about what is divine; it is spiritual and hidden.Unfortunately yes Benoni. Debating is intellectual.Benoni wrote:Well I see I am waisting my time we really do not have anything to say to each other.
Post #39
can you, in your own words, tell me what you mean by the term 'spiritual'?Benoni wrote:Sorry you are wrong. God is a spirit not a brain.alsarg72 wrote:Benoni wrote:There is nothing intellectual about what is divine; it is spiritual and hidden.Unfortunately yes Benoni. Debating is intellectual.Benoni wrote:Well I see I am waisting my time we really do not have anything to say to each other.
"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
Post #40
Read it. "Debating is...", not "God is...".Benoni wrote:Sorry you are wrong. God is a spirit not a brain.alsarg72 wrote:Benoni wrote:There is nothing intellectual about what is divine; it is spiritual and hidden.Unfortunately yes Benoni. Debating is intellectual.Benoni wrote:Well I see I am waisting my time we really do not have anything to say to each other.
But if you want to say that God doesn't have an intellect I'm not going to argue with you on that one.
