Does Hell Exist?

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The question for debate is does hell exist? If so, what does the Bible teach hell is?

[onewithhim]

That billboard is misleading. A fiery hell does not exist, and "Hell" means mankind's grave. God would not want to see anyone being tortured forever with no way out. The "lake of fire" in Revelation 20:15 is a symbol of the annihilation of the evil person. It is just as symbolic as the casting of death and hell into the lake of fire. (Verse 14.) How can death actually be cast anywhere? How can hell be cast into itself?

Most King James Version Bibles have in the footnote for Rev. 20:14: Hell is "Greek for Hades, or, the grave." How does one argue with that?

Death and hell being cast into the lake of fire means that death and the grave will no longer be realities. They will be eradicated forever.

How the death and hell eradicated forever?
Is it not by burning? Rev 19:20.
Is burning also still a symbol?

Yes it is. Burning is a symbol of complete destruction. Tell me, according to your thinking, how can death and hell be thrown anywhere? Can you pick up death and throw it?

Yes, the result of burning is destruction (not a symbol). Death will be put into destruction. The word "cast" (thrown) is used in that verse and one meaning is "to put into".
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

That's right. Casting into the lake of fire means destruction. It is not a literalthrowing of death and Hades into a lake of fire. You can't throw death and Hades anywhere.

The Greek word of cast is "ballo" and definitions are cast out, put, send etc.

βάλλω ballō
A primary verb; to throw (in various applications, more or less violent or intense): - arise, cast (out), X dung, lay, lie, pour, put (up), send, strike, throw (down), thrust. Compare G4496.

May I say So what? The issue is the inability to cast or throw death and Hades literally anywhere. One cannot actually throw them.

[Capbook]

That billboard is misleading. A fiery hell does not exist, and "Hell" means mankind's grave. God would not want to see anyone being tortured forever with no way out. The "lake of fire" in Revelation 20:15 is a symbol of the annihilation of the evil person. It is just as symbolic as the casting of death and hell into the lake of fire. (Verse 14.) How can death actually be cast anywhere? How can hell be cast into itself?

Most King James Version Bibles have in the footnote for Rev. 20:14: Hell is "Greek for Hades, or, the grave." How does one argue with that?

Death and hell being cast into the lake of fire means that death and the grave will no longer be realities. They will be eradicated forever.

How the death and hell eradicated forever?
Is it not by burning? Rev 19:20.
Is burning also still a symbol?

Yes it is. Burning is a symbol of complete destruction. Tell me, according to your thinking, how can death and hell be thrown anywhere? Can you pick up death and throw it?

Yes, the result of burning is destruction (not a symbol). Death will be put into destruction. The word "cast" (thrown) is used in that verse and one meaning is "to put into".
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

That's right. Casting into the lake of fire means destruction. It is not a literalthrowing of death and Hades into a lake of fire. You can't throw death and Hades anywhere.

The Greek word of cast is "ballo" and definitions are cast out, put, send etc.

βάλλω ballō
A primary verb; to throw (in various applications, more or less violent or intense): - arise, cast (out), X dung, lay, lie, pour, put (up), send, strike, throw (down), thrust. Compare G4496.

May I say So what? The issue is the inability to cast or throw death and Hades literally anywhere. One cannot actually throw them.

You've said, "Casting into the lake of fire means destruction"
Yes, putting of death and Hades into the lake of fire is destruction.
Is that not acceptable to you again? "Put" is one definition of "ballo" (throw) actually "cast" in KJV.

[JehovahsWitness]

Yes, putting of death and Hades into the lake of fire is destruction.
Is that not acceptable to you again? "Put" is one definition of "ballo" (throw) actually "cast" in KJV.

One cannot literally throw death as it is a condition, so this verse must be SYMBOLIC throwing into a SYMBOLIC lake.

[Capbook]

Yes, putting of death and Hades into the lake of fire is destruction.
Is that not acceptable to you again? "Put" is one definition of "ballo" (throw) actually "cast" in KJV.

One cannot literally throw death as it is a condition, so this verse must be SYMBOLIC throwing into a SYMBOLIC lake.

I did say "putting' not throwing. And the verse say "lake of fire" Rev 20:9-10.
It is the same fire from heaven that burn up the captain and the fifty in 2Kings 1:10.
If the fire is symbolic, the word devour or burn up will not happen to the captain and his fifty soldiers.

[JehovahsWitness]

Yes, putting of death and Hades into the lake of fire is destruction.
Is that not acceptable to you again? "Put" is one definition of "ballo" (throw) actually "cast" in KJV.

One cannot literally throw death as it is a condition, so this verse must be SYMBOLIC throwing into a SYMBOLIC lake.

I did say "putting' not throwing.

One cannot literally put death anywhere as it is a condition, so this verse must be SYMBOLIC putting into a SYMBOLIC lake.

[Capbook]

Yes, putting of death and Hades into the lake of fire is destruction.
Is that not acceptable to you again? "Put" is one definition of "ballo" (throw) actually "cast" in KJV.

One cannot literally throw death as it is a condition, so this verse must be SYMBOLIC throwing into a SYMBOLIC lake.

I did say "putting' not throwing.

One cannot literally put death anywhere as it is a condition, so this verse must be SYMBOLIC putting into a SYMBOLIC lake.

Why not complete the "lake of fire". Fire that brought things to ashes cannot be symbolic.

[JehovahsWitness]

...Fire that brought things to ashes cannot be symbolic.

It can if the ASHES are also SYMBOLIC.

[onewithhim]

Yes, putting of death and Hades into the lake of fire is destruction.
Is that not acceptable to you again? "Put" is one definition of "ballo" (throw) actually "cast" in KJV.

One cannot literally throw death as it is a condition, so this verse must be SYMBOLIC throwing into a SYMBOLIC lake.

I did say "putting' not throwing.

One cannot literally put death anywhere as it is a condition, so this verse must be SYMBOLIC putting into a SYMBOLIC lake.

Why not complete the "lake of fire". Fire that brought things to ashes cannot be symbolic.

It is as symbolic as the smoke that ascends from Edom. "For the LORD has a day of vengeance, a year of recompense for the cause of Zion. Its streams will be turned into pitch, and its loose earth into brimstone, and its land will become burning pitch. It will not be quenched night or day; its smoke will go up forever. From generation to generation it will be desolate; none will pass through it forever and ever." (Isaiah 34:8-10, NASB)

Edom isn't around anymore, yet the smoke from the burning pitch "will go up forever." We won't see the smoke today. It is symbolic of eternal destruction.

[Capbook]

...Fire that brought things to ashes cannot be symbolic.

It can if the ASHES are also SYMBOLIC.

Can you support that thru lexicons?

[Capbook]

Yes, putting of death and Hades into the lake of fire is destruction.
Is that not acceptable to you again? "Put" is one definition of "ballo" (throw) actually "cast" in KJV.

One cannot literally throw death as it is a condition, so this verse must be SYMBOLIC throwing into a SYMBOLIC lake.

I did say "putting' not throwing.

One cannot literally put death anywhere as it is a condition, so this verse must be SYMBOLIC putting into a SYMBOLIC lake.

Why not complete the "lake of fire". Fire that brought things to ashes cannot be symbolic.

It is as symbolic as the smoke that ascends from Edom. "For the LORD has a day of vengeance, a year of recompense for the cause of Zion. Its streams will be turned into pitch, and its loose earth into brimstone, and its land will become burning pitch. It will not be quenched night or day; its smoke will go up forever. From generation to generation it will be desolate; none will pass through it forever and ever." (Isaiah 34:8-10, NASB)

Edom isn't around anymore, yet the smoke from the burning pitch "will go up forever." We won't see the smoke today. It is symbolic of eternal destruction.

Just like Sodom and Gommorrah burned to ashes by real fire, making an example to those who will live ungodly.

2Pe 2:6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;