Who created all things?

[servant1]

Isaiah 44:24- This is what Jehovah has said, your repurchaser and the former of you from the belly. I Jehovah am doing everything, stretching out the heavens by myself, laying out the Earth. Who was with me?

Myself= the only power source and designer. How do we know this-Because Jesus was involved as well-How?
Gen 1:26--Let US make man in our image-US = more than 1 being--Gen 1:27-HE( 1 being) created--Prov 8:27-28- HE( 1being) created.
So what does US mean then?= Us = Jehovah and his master worker( Prov 8:30)= the one beside God during creation, the one whom God grew especially fond of= his son.
Jesus= The firstborn of all creation--All creation occurred at the beginning--PROOF=Prov 8:22 Possessed me as the beginning of your way( creating). The Hebrew word used for possessed means-created. Thus created direct, first and last, all other things created-THROUGH( John 1:3, Col 1:160) Through = another did the creating).= Jehovah.-)--- things created through Gods master worker. The word only begotten son means monogenes=unique=created direct first and last.
Most religions teach untruth on this matter, but i have presented bible facts on it.
Do you believe the evidence?

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #4]


I asked in bing search--Which is correct for the Hebrew word at Prov 8:22, possessed or produced--Possessed( created) came up just like i show in this post.

Is bing search, Sola Scriptura?
Don't you have Bible verses to support your assumptions?
I've posted many already.

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #4]


I asked in bing search--Which is correct for the Hebrew word at Prov 8:22, possessed or produced--Possessed( created) came up just like i show in this post.

Is bing search, Sola Scriptura?
Don't you have Bible verses to support your assumptions?
I've posted many already.

[servant1]

[Replying to Capbook in post #21]

You post Catholicism translating.
I believe Jesus over Catholicism errors, his teachings are the same in all translations barring the word Earth or land at Matt 5:5--Jesus teaches-John 17:3= The one who sent him= Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD--see one must know the Father as that and know Jesus to get eternal life--that is where trinitarians are losing out-Why? Because errors are shoved down their throats so that they believe them first even over Jesus' truth.

[servant1]

[Replying to A Freeman in post #20]


Actually the Hebrew scholars say there is no i am that i am translated from their OT-- It translates- i will be what i will be.
Catholicism put i am that i am to mislead.

[A Freeman]

[Replying to A Freeman in post #20]


Actually the Hebrew scholars say there is no i am that i am translated from their OT-- It translates- i will be what i will be.
Catholicism put i am that i am to mislead.

Matthew 15:13-14
15:13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath NOT planted, shall be rooted up.
15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch (or Pit).

[Revelations won]

Who Created all things?

In answer to the OP question:

Christ created the heavens ands the earth. He is also the holy one of Israel, the mortal Messiah. He is Immanuel or God with us. He is the great I AM of the Old Testament. He came in his first coming as the humble illustrator of the "Law" which he gave to Moses.

We all are spirit children of our heavenly parents as so testified by the spirit of God. Christ is unique in that he received his mortal body directly from God our Heavenly Father by The Fathers Holy union with Mary. Christ is indeed the legitimate son of God the Father.

The unbelieving apostate Jews failed to accept this premise and falsely accused him of being a bastard child in which they also falsely claimed him to be "born altogether in sin". Unfortunately today there are also many that agree with the apostate jews of his day.

The scriptures clearly show by Christs own divine testimony That thew Father is greater than he. This will always be the case for all eternity. Christ has received all that the Father hath and will sit in the throne of his Father. We also by the atonement of Christ and overcoming "the world" like wise receive by exaltation all that the Father hath. Only when we understand our true eternal destiny which God has designed for us will it everlastingly be appreciated.

The scriptures make it very clear that God our Heavenly Father, his son Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost are "One in purpose and unity" not in substance. The true God we worship is indeed knowable and approachable as the scriptures state. Our eternal and exalted destiny is that of an eternal family unit sealed by paper priesthood power and authority for all eternity.

The trinity teaches the doctrine of an incomprehensible and unknowable God without body parts and passion that are unexplained as three in one and one in three.

I find it amazing that so many support this unscriptural doctrine. I in this post purposely did not quote scripture to solidify the points of my position.


If anyone can by scriptures prove me Wrong on every point listed above, then lets hear it...

RW

[servant1]

[Replying to Revelations won in post #26]

Any who can understand English for self sees--THROUGH( John 1:3, Col 1:16)Jesus= another did the creating. He created( Gen 1:27, not the us at 1:26--He = 1 single being--Prov 8:27-28=HE( not we) created.= bible reality, my OP is 100% fact.
HE = Jehovah. ---US = Jehovah and his master worker( Prov 8:30)

[onewithhim]

[Replying to Capbook in post #4]


I asked in bing search--Which is correct for the Hebrew word at Prov 8:22, possessed or produced--Possessed( created) came up just like i show in this post.

Is bing search, Sola Scriptura?
Don't you have Bible verses to support your assumptions?
I've posted many already.

Are your sources sola scriptura?

[bjs1]

Prov 8:27-28- HE( 1being) created.
So what does US mean then?= Us = Jehovah and his master worker( Prov 8:30)= the one beside God during creation, the one whom God grew especially fond of= his son.

In Proverbs chapter 8 the author personifies wisdom. Most people say this is a symbolic way of describing wisdom and that God, who is wise, created all things.

Are you saying that passage is literal? That God literally created a female being, named Wisdom, who cries aloud by the gate of the city for the simple to gain prudence?

Are you also saying Wisdom, a created female being, is Jehovah’s “master worker” whom He grew especially fond of, and is therefore Jehovah’s son?

I think "wisdom" in verses 12-21 is Jehovah's actual wisdom that he will pass on to his people if they would just receive it. Those verses don't describe a woman. Verse 22 starts off referring to God's Son, His master worker, down to verse 31. Why would "wisdom" be all of those things? The verses are compatible with the thought that from 22 to 31 they describe God's Son. That is exactly what the relationship between them was. The Son created all things with the authority and power given to him by God.

Why? There is nothing in the text to suggest that this is accurate. In Proverbs 8:1-3 the author introduces wisdom as the speaker. Then in Proverbs 8:4-36 we have a continuous speech from this female personification of Wisdom. Nothing in verse 22, or in the verses before or after it, suggests that the speaker has changed from Wisdom to God’s Son.

The natural reading of Proverbs 8:4-36 is that it is one long speech from the personification of Wisdom. What makes you think otherwise?

Would God describe a woman as "better than corals, and all other delights cannot be made equal to her?" Or: "By her kings keep reigning, and high officials keep decreeing righteousness. By her princes keep ruling as princes, and nobles are all judging in righteousness?" These expressions would be a literal woman? I don't think so. Solomon is speaking of Jehovah's actual wisdom that is better than corals and gold.

Correct.

Then the passage goes on to speak of something else. Jehovah's production of somebody who was created as the first being to be created, and who worked beside his Father Jehovah as a master worker, being fond of the sons of men.

Nothing in the text suggests this.

I assume you know the difference between exegesis and exegesis. Eisegesis is deciding what I believe, and then declaring that the text is talking about my beliefs. Exegesis means starting with the text itself and building my understanding on the words (in this case of the Bible).

The text talks about the personification of Wisdom throughout the whole chapter. Nothing in the text suggests that the author switched to writing about a created being.

Without reading your opinions into the Bible, what reason is there to say that the second half of this chapter in Proverbs is about a created being? (As opposed to the entire chapter being about the personification of wisdom.)

[Capbook]

[Replying to Capbook in post #21]

You post Catholicism translating.
I believe Jesus over Catholicism errors, his teachings are the same in all translations barring the word Earth or land at Matt 5:5--Jesus teaches-John 17:3= The one who sent him= Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD--see one must know the Father as that and know Jesus to get eternal life--that is where trinitarians are losing out-Why? Because errors are shoved down their throats so that they believe them first even over Jesus' truth.

First of all, you are wrong, I am not a Catholic.
Second, again you are wrong on John 17:3, you quote it out of context. It is not a comparison between the Father and Jesus.
The true message is, "it is eternal life to know the Father and Jesus" is it not the context of it or not?