Lake of fire

Exploring the details of Christianity

Moderator: Moderators

Post Reply
User avatar
achilles12604
Site Supporter
Posts: 3697
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:37 am
Location: Colorado

Lake of fire

Post #1

Post by achilles12604 »

Question for everyone. The lake of fire referred to by the traditional Christian/ Catholic/ Fundi churches.

Is it literally a lake of fire? It is figurative? Other?
It is a first class human tragedy that people of the earth who claim to believe in the message of Jesus, whom they describe as the Prince of Peace, show little of that belief in actual practice.

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22819
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 892 times
Been thanked: 1330 times
Contact:

Re: Lake of fire

Post #151

Post by JehovahsWitness »

Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:28 amµ
I don't know what verse that fire for the ungodly that is symbolic, because I believe they are literal and lexicon defines them not that way as you interpret.
Well you can if you are so inclined provide some verses you believe are literal and I can correct you if the need arises.
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

Capbook
Guru
Posts: 1960
Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 7:12 am
Has thanked: 38 times
Been thanked: 58 times

Re: Lake of fire

Post #152

Post by Capbook »

JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:31 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:28 amµ
I don't know what verse that fire for the ungodly that is symbolic, because I believe they are literal and lexicon defines them not that way as you interpret.
Well you can if you are so inclined provide some verses you believe are literal and I can correct you if the need arises.
Ezek 28:18, God will punish the one who sinned by fire and turn him to ashes.

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22819
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 892 times
Been thanked: 1330 times
Contact:

Re: Lake of fire

Post #153

Post by JehovahsWitness »

Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:41 am Ezek 28:18, God will punish the one who sinned by fire and turn him to ashes.
The original words were addressed to the King of Tyre, there is no indication in the bible that one died by fire. The verse has been symbolically applied to Satan the devil. Satan will be cast in the the symbolic "lake of fire" which represents his (Satan's) complete and everlasting destruction.







RELATED POSTS
Does anyone get out of HELL (sheol)?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 02#p971002

Is FIRE used figuratively to represent the literal torture of humans after they die?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 45#p970945

Revelation 1:18, 6:8, Revelation 20:13, & 14 : What does the book of Revelation teach us about "HELL" ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 39#p971239

What is "The Lake of fire" (Rev 14:9)?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 66#p337866
,

To learn more please go to other posts related to...

GEHENNA , HELLFIRE TORTURE DEBUNKED and ... THE BOOK OF REVELATION
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

Capbook
Guru
Posts: 1960
Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 7:12 am
Has thanked: 38 times
Been thanked: 58 times

Re: Lake of fire

Post #154

Post by Capbook »

JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:45 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:41 am Ezek 28:18, God will punish the one who sinned by fire and turn him to ashes.
The original words were addressed to the King of Tyre, there is no indication in the bible that one died by fire. The verse has been symbolically applied to Satan the devil. Satan will be cast in the the symbolic "lake of fire" which represents his (Satan's) complete and everlasting destruction.







RELATED POSTS
Does anyone get out of HELL (sheol)?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 02#p971002

Is FIRE used figuratively to represent the literal torture of humans after they die?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 45#p970945

Revelation 1:18, 6:8, Revelation 20:13, & 14 : What does the book of Revelation teach us about "HELL" ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 39#p971239

What is "The Lake of fire" (Rev 14:9)?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 66#p337866
,

To learn more please go to other posts related to...

GEHENNA , HELLFIRE TORTURE DEBUNKED and ... THE BOOK OF REVELATION
You've said, "there is no indication in the bible that one died by fire." Is there not?

Lev 10:2
2 And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.
KJV

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22819
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 892 times
Been thanked: 1330 times
Contact:

Re: Lake of fire

Post #155

Post by JehovahsWitness »

Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:42 am Lev 10:2
2 And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.
KJV
Thatnis not speaking about the King of Tyre. Do you have absolutely no regard for context?
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

Capbook
Guru
Posts: 1960
Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 7:12 am
Has thanked: 38 times
Been thanked: 58 times

Re: Lake of fire

Post #156

Post by Capbook »

JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:08 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:42 am Lev 10:2
2 And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.
KJV
Thatnis not speaking about the King of Tyre. Do you have absolutely no regard for context?
That is what you said, "there is no indication in the bible that one died by fire.
Are you denying that?

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22819
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 892 times
Been thanked: 1330 times
Contact:

Re: Lake of fire

Post #157

Post by JehovahsWitness »

Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 7:02 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:08 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:42 am Lev 10:2
2 And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.
KJV
Thatnis not speaking about the King of Tyre. Do you have absolutely no regard for context?
That is what you said, "there is no indication in the bible that one died by fire.
Are you denying that?



By "that one" I was referring to THE KING OF TYRE.




RELATED POSTS


Who did Ezekiel say would destroy Tyre forever?
viewtopic.php?p=824428#p824428
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

Capbook
Guru
Posts: 1960
Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 7:12 am
Has thanked: 38 times
Been thanked: 58 times

Re: Lake of fire

Post #158

Post by Capbook »

JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 7:11 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 7:02 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 6:08 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:42 am Lev 10:2
2 And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.
KJV
Thatnis not speaking about the King of Tyre. Do you have absolutely no regard for context?
That is what you said, "there is no indication in the bible that one died by fire.
Are you denying that?



By "that one" I was referring to THE KING OF TYRE.




RELATED POSTS


Who did Ezekiel say would destroy Tyre forever?
viewtopic.php?p=824428#p824428
But the Bible is clear now that someone would be dead by fire. A proof of literal fire to punished sinners.

User avatar
JehovahsWitness
Savant
Posts: 22819
Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:03 am
Has thanked: 892 times
Been thanked: 1330 times
Contact:

Re: Lake of fire

Post #159

Post by JehovahsWitness »

Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 7:17 am
But the Bible is clear now that someone would be dead by fire. A proof of literal fire to punished sinners.
Which specific verse are you referring to? Do you have a reference?
INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681


"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" -
Romans 14:8

Capbook
Guru
Posts: 1960
Joined: Sat May 04, 2024 7:12 am
Has thanked: 38 times
Been thanked: 58 times

Re: Lake of fire

Post #160

Post by Capbook »

JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 7:19 am
Capbook wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 7:17 am
But the Bible is clear now that someone would be dead by fire. A proof of literal fire to punished sinners.
Which specific verse are you referring to? Do you have a reference?
This one literal fire that caused Nadab and Abihu death.
Lev 10:2
2 And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.
KJV

Post Reply