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Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?

Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment

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Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:09 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:04 am
1213 wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:26 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:34 am ...
Can you see how you cannot end the covenant without ending the laws of that same covenant?
The covenant was more than just the law.
So you agree that the covenant included the law? "more than just.." in English means it IS THE thing mentioned PLUS some other thing. So when you say "covenant was more than just the law" it means you agree the covenant WAS indeed the law (plus some other things).

Is that what you are meaning?

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Before giving the ten Commandments this is the agreement (covenant) given by God to the children of Israel. Whom all the people answered "All that the Lord hath spoken we will do".(Ex 19:5,8)
And the second covenant made by God to the people of Israel to put His laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: (Heb 8:10)
That is if we consider ourselves as God's people, God has put His laws in our mind and written it in our hearts for us to keep it.

Ex 19:5-8
5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

7 And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the Lord commanded him.
8 And all the people answered together, and said, All that the Lord hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the Lord.
KJV

Heb 8:10
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
KJV
All excellent scriptures. Paul (who is not always easy to understand) examined the question thoroughly.




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Re: SABBATH...

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:01 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:09 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:04 am
1213 wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:26 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:34 am ...
Can you see how you cannot end the covenant without ending the laws of that same covenant?
The covenant was more than just the law.
So you agree that the covenant included the law? "more than just.." in English means it IS THE thing mentioned PLUS some other thing. So when you say "covenant was more than just the law" it means you agree the covenant WAS indeed the law (plus some other things).

Is that what you are meaning?

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What are the terms and conditions of the Mosaic law ?
viewtopic.php?p=1154643#p1154643
Before giving the ten Commandments this is the agreement (covenant) given by God to the children of Israel. Whom all the people answered "All that the Lord hath spoken we will do".(Ex 19:5,8)
And the second covenant made by God to the people of Israel to put His laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: (Heb 8:10)
That is if we consider ourselves as God's people, God has put His laws in our mind and written it in our hearts for us to keep it.

Ex 19:5-8
5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

7 And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the Lord commanded him.
8 And all the people answered together, and said, All that the Lord hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the Lord.
KJV

Heb 8:10
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
KJV
All excellent scriptures. Paul (who is not always easy to understand) examined the question thoroughly.
Any argument for those text?

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Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:03 am
Any argument for those text?
I never ague against the bible. Was there something in the texts you would like me to explain to you?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:04 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:03 am
Any argument for those text?
I never ague against the bible. Was there something in the texts you would like me to explain to you?
Define covenant.
Is the law of God in your mind and written in your heart as what God said to His people?

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Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:06 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:04 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:03 am
Any argument for those text?
I never ague against the bible. Was there something in the texts you would like me to explain to you?
Define covenant.

COVENANT

A formal agreement, or contract, between God and humans or between two human parties to do or refrain from doing something. Sometimes only one party was responsible to carry out the terms (a unilateral covenant, which was essentially a promise). At other times both parties had terms to carry out (a bilateral covenant). Besides covenants made by God with humans, the Bible mentions covenants between men, tribes, nations, or groups of people. Among the covenants that have had a far-reaching effect are those that God made with Abraham, David, the nation of Israel (Law covenant), and the Israel of God (new covenant).​—Ge 9:11; 15:18; 21:27; Ex 24:7; 2Ch 21:7.


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Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:06 am Is the law of God in your mind and written in your heart as what God said to His people?
Which law are you referring to?
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:10 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:06 am Is the law of God in your mind and written in your heart as what God said to His people?
Which law are you referring to?
The one in Heb 8:10.

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Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:15 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:10 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:06 am Is the law of God in your mind and written in your heart as what God said to His people?
Which law are you referring to?
The one in Heb 8:10.
Why do you ask what is in "my mind", I dont believe I am mentioned in the OP
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:17 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:15 am
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:10 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:06 am Is the law of God in your mind and written in your heart as what God said to His people?
Which law are you referring to?
The one in Heb 8:10.
Why do you ask what is in "my mind", I dont believe I am mentioned in the OP
Heb 8:10 God put His laws in His people's mind and written it in His people's hearts. Do you not consider yourself one of God's people?

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Capbook wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:24 am Heb 8:10 God put His laws in His people's mind and written it in His people's hearts. Do you not consider yourself one of God's people?
If you want to ask me personal questions do so in a more appropriate forum

- > viewforum.php?f=26

I will certainly consider answering your questions there if I am so inclined.


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