With God, nothing is impossible.

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Moses wrote 3500 years ago and the writers of the New Testament 2000 years ago. Yet science appears only now to be catching up with God’s word. Following is proof that Jesus is God, the Son of God, and Son of man, and that he is without beginning.

The mother provides her unborn developing infant with the nutritive elements for building its physical body in her womb, but all the blood that forms in the unborn child is formed in the embryo itself and only as a result of the father’s contribution; therefore, not one drop of blood ever passes from the mother to the child.

And so goes the miracle of the conception of the virgin birth. Luke 1:30-35, the angel came to Mary and said --- “Behold, you shall conceive in your womb, and bring forth a son, and shall call his name Jesus.” --- “The Holy Ghost shall come upon you, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow you: therefore also that Holy One (Jesus) which shall be born of you shall be called the Son of God.”

This was a male sperm inserted into the womb of a virgin. Was this seed taken directly from the Father or the Son? Or was it created? If created, then it can be said Jesus was created like all men. Now, because Mary conceived by supernatural insemination of the Holy Spirit, and the seed was that of God, the child born of this seed was born without spot or blemish, and without a sinful nature.

So, Jesus was of Adam's race according to the flesh, but he did not inherit Adam's nature. Mary's geology is traced back to Adam, Luke 3:38.

This provides us with the evidence, that sin is NOT transmitted through the flesh but through the blood. And though Jesus was of the "seed of David” and of the "seed of Adam" through Mary according to the flesh" He was, 1 Timothy 3:16, “God manifest in the flesh, and as Matthew 1:23 states, “God with us.” That newborn child was born perfectly human in the flesh, and yet perfectly God. And because the seed was that of God, our faith, and his precious blood gave us victory over death and hell.

Romans 5:9, "Justified by His blood we shall be saved from wrath, through Him." The phrase, to be "saved from wrath, through Him"

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....Or was it created? If created, then it can be said Jesus was created like all men. ...

Bible tells Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. But I would not say he is created the same way as other humans.

… He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation....
Col. 1:14

How many times do you have to be told the meaning of first-born? Go by yourself a good Greek to English Lexicon. If you can't afford one, tell me where you live and I'll send you one.

First-born means the chief, the one highly distinguished and preeminent; ....

Even if first born would mean chief, it says Jesus is the image of God and part of creation.

Okay, believe what you want.

Thank you, we will. And to reply to the title here, there are some things God cannot do. He cannot die, he cannot lie, and he cannot build a mountain that is too high for him to climb to the top.

Why would he want to die? Why would he want to climb a mountain? Weak, very weak.

What is weak about my listing some things that God cannot do? The fact that he cannot die would rule out him actually being Jesus Christ. You don't understand what I'm trying to point out.

Only the Lord's flesh died, and his spirit descended into hell to "lead captivity captive."

[onewithhim]

....Or was it created? If created, then it can be said Jesus was created like all men. ...

Bible tells Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. But I would not say he is created the same way as other humans.

… He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation....
Col. 1:14

How many times do you have to be told the meaning of first-born? Go by yourself a good Greek to English Lexicon. If you can't afford one, tell me where you live and I'll send you one.

First-born means the chief, the one highly distinguished and preeminent; ....

Even if first born would mean chief, it says Jesus is the image of God and part of creation.

Okay, believe what you want.

Thank you, we will. And to reply to the title here, there are some things God cannot do. He cannot die, he cannot lie, and he cannot build a mountain that is too high for him to climb to the top.

Why would he want to die? Why would he want to climb a mountain? Weak, very weak.

What is weak about my listing some things that God cannot do? The fact that he cannot die would rule out him actually being Jesus Christ. You don't understand what I'm trying to point out.

Only the Lord's flesh died, and his spirit descended into hell to "lead captivity captive."

The Lord died in every respect. Nothing was left alive. The Scriptures state that "the dead are conscious of nothing at all." (Eccles.9:5) They have no spirit that exits the body and lives on as that person. The "spirit" is God's own Holy Spirit that keeps people alive. It "goes back" to God when a person dies in the sense that He is the Source of life and is responsible for the life of that individual. Jesus "descended into Hell," meaning that he was in his GRAVE for three days. ("Hell" means the GRAVE.)

Ephesians 4:8 (NASB): "When he ascended on HIGH, he led captive a host of captives, and he gave gifts to men."
Ephesians 4:8 (American Standard Version): "When he ascended on HIGH, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men."

It is certain that Jesus did not DESCEND anywhere to "lead captivity captive." It says he ascended on HIGH to lead captivity captive. So you've got that verse turned around. And we've already discussed what his descent into hell means. He was in the grave, because "hell" means the GRAVE. After he was resurrected he ascended on high to take captivity captive. No more captivity for Christians, in false doctrines. And the gifts to men is stated in verse 11: "And he gave some to be apostles; some prophets; and some evangelists; and some pastors and teachers; (12)for the perfecting of the saints, unto the building up of the body of Christ."

This says nothing about Jesus going into hell-fire to take away people from there out of captivity. Why would he do that anyway? People in "hell" in your estimation are wicked.

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....Or was it created? If created, then it can be said Jesus was created like all men. ...

Bible tells Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. But I would not say he is created the same way as other humans.

… He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation....
Col. 1:14

How many times do you have to be told the meaning of first-born? Go by yourself a good Greek to English Lexicon. If you can't afford one, tell me where you live and I'll send you one.

First-born means the chief, the one highly distinguished and preeminent; ....

Even if first born would mean chief, it says Jesus is the image of God and part of creation.

Okay, believe what you want.

Thank you, we will. And to reply to the title here, there are some things God cannot do. He cannot die, he cannot lie, and he cannot build a mountain that is too high for him to climb to the top.

Why would he want to die? Why would he want to climb a mountain? Weak, very weak.

What is weak about my listing some things that God cannot do? The fact that he cannot die would rule out him actually being Jesus Christ. You don't understand what I'm trying to point out.

Only the Lord's flesh died, and his spirit descended into hell to "lead captivity captive."

The Lord died in every respect. Nothing was left alive. The Scriptures state that "the dead are conscious of nothing at all." (Eccles.9:5) They have no spirit that exits the body and lives on as that person. The "spirit" is God's own Holy Spirit that keeps people alive. It "goes back" to God when a person dies in the sense that He is the Source of life and is responsible for the life of that individual. Jesus "descended into Hell," meaning that he was in his GRAVE for three days. ("Hell" means the GRAVE.)

Ephesians 4:8 (NASB): "When he ascended on HIGH, he led captive a host of captives, and he gave gifts to men."
Ephesians 4:8 (American Standard Version): "When he ascended on HIGH, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men."

It is certain that Jesus did not DESCEND anywhere to "lead captivity captive." It says he ascended on HIGH to lead captivity captive. So you've got that verse turned around. And we've already discussed what his descent into hell means. He was in the grave, because "hell" means the GRAVE. After he was resurrected he ascended on high to take captivity captive. No more captivity for Christians, in false doctrines. And the gifts to men is stated in verse 11: "And he gave some to be apostles; some prophets; and some evangelists; and some pastors and teachers; (12)for the perfecting of the saints, unto the building up of the body of Christ."

This says nothing about Jesus going into hell-fire to take away people from there out of captivity. Why would he do that anyway? People in "hell" in your estimation are wicked.

Hell-fire comes after the great white throne judgment.

I love the way you people take one verse out of context and make a doctrine out of it. Ephesians 4:9, "Now that he (Jesus) ascended, what is it but that he also DESCENDED FIRST into the lower parts of the earth? While the Lord's body lay in the tomb, his spirit descended into hell, the lower part of the earth. And when did all this happen? It happened in the period of the three days his body lay in the tomb.

What did he do when he was there? 1 Peter 3:18-19, Jesus was "Quickened (made alive) by the (Holy) Spirit: by which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison." He preached to the spirits of the dead; The spirit as distinguished from the flesh. The spirit of the Lord Jesus descended into hell between his passion and resurrection, to preach to certain spirits imprisoned in Hades or Sheol.

The word prison refers to the bottomless pit, the abyss, Tartarus, as the prison of demons and the souls of wicked men. Get yourself a good Greek concordance and look it up.

Revelation 20:7, "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison." Same word.

Who were these people he preached to? "They were those who were sometimes (formerly) disobedient, and when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, when the ark was preparing, wherein few, that is eight were saved by water."

And "he (Jesus) led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto them." Who did Jesus lead out of captivity? and who did he give gifts to?

Jesus Hebrews 2:8, the Father has, "Put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he (Father) left nothing that is not put under him." hat would include those in hell waiting for the day of judgment. "ALL THINGS," NOT SOME, BUT ALL.

[onewithhim]

Bible tells Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. But I would not say he is created the same way as other humans.

… He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation....
Col. 1:14

How many times do you have to be told the meaning of first-born? Go by yourself a good Greek to English Lexicon. If you can't afford one, tell me where you live and I'll send you one.

First-born means the chief, the one highly distinguished and preeminent; ....

Even if first born would mean chief, it says Jesus is the image of God and part of creation.

Okay, believe what you want.

Thank you, we will. And to reply to the title here, there are some things God cannot do. He cannot die, he cannot lie, and he cannot build a mountain that is too high for him to climb to the top.

Why would he want to die? Why would he want to climb a mountain? Weak, very weak.

What is weak about my listing some things that God cannot do? The fact that he cannot die would rule out him actually being Jesus Christ. You don't understand what I'm trying to point out.

Only the Lord's flesh died, and his spirit descended into hell to "lead captivity captive."

The Lord died in every respect. Nothing was left alive. The Scriptures state that "the dead are conscious of nothing at all." (Eccles.9:5) They have no spirit that exits the body and lives on as that person. The "spirit" is God's own Holy Spirit that keeps people alive. It "goes back" to God when a person dies in the sense that He is the Source of life and is responsible for the life of that individual. Jesus "descended into Hell," meaning that he was in his GRAVE for three days. ("Hell" means the GRAVE.)

Ephesians 4:8 (NASB): "When he ascended on HIGH, he led captive a host of captives, and he gave gifts to men."
Ephesians 4:8 (American Standard Version): "When he ascended on HIGH, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men."

It is certain that Jesus did not DESCEND anywhere to "lead captivity captive." It says he ascended on HIGH to lead captivity captive. So you've got that verse turned around. And we've already discussed what his descent into hell means. He was in the grave, because "hell" means the GRAVE. After he was resurrected he ascended on high to take captivity captive. No more captivity for Christians, in false doctrines. And the gifts to men is stated in verse 11: "And he gave some to be apostles; some prophets; and some evangelists; and some pastors and teachers; (12)for the perfecting of the saints, unto the building up of the body of Christ."

This says nothing about Jesus going into hell-fire to take away people from there out of captivity. Why would he do that anyway? People in "hell" in your estimation are wicked.

Hell-fire comes after the great white throne judgment.

I love the way you people take one verse out of context and make a doctrine out of it. Ephesians 4:9, "Now that he (Jesus) ascended, what is it but that he also DESCENDED FIRST into the lower parts of the earth? While the Lord's body lay in the tomb, his spirit descended into hell, the lower part of the earth. And when did all this happen? It happened in the period of the three days his body lay in the tomb.

What did he do when he was there? 1 Peter 3:18-19, Jesus was "Quickened (made alive) by the (Holy) Spirit: by which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison." He preached to the spirits of the dead; The spirit as distinguished from the flesh. The spirit of the Lord Jesus descended into hell between his passion and resurrection, to preach to certain spirits imprisoned in Hades or Sheol.

The word prison refers to the bottomless pit, the abyss, Tartarus, as the prison of demons and the souls of wicked men. Get yourself a good Greek concordance and look it up.

Revelation 20:7, "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison." Same word.

Who were these people he preached to? "They were those who were sometimes (formerly) disobedient, and when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, when the ark was preparing, wherein few, that is eight were saved by water."

And "he (Jesus) led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto them." Who did Jesus lead out of captivity? and who did he give gifts to?

Jesus Hebrews 2:8, the Father has, "Put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he (Father) left nothing that is not put under him." hat would include those in hell waiting for the day of judgment. "ALL THINGS," NOT SOME, BUT ALL.

That is exactly what you do. Take a verse here and there and make a doctrine out of it. For Jesus to be in the "lowest parts of the earth" simply meant that he was in his grave. Don't you see that the scriptures put things in a way that the meaning is hyperbole? Does Jehovah have wings like a bird? Do the mountains really clap their hands? This is called poetic license and there are many verses that are presented in such a way, just to make a much finer point. Jesus didn't literally go into the "lowest parts of the earth." He was in his grave, really dead, not going anywhere.

AFTER he was resurrected (after 3 days), he went to speak to the demons in the spirit realm. This realm is not in the lowest depths of the earth. The demons are all over the earth, above ground. Nowhere does it suggest that the demons are underground.

There are people in hell waiting for judgment? Believers in hell as you define it do not think that anyone is going to get out of it. I've never heard of your doctrine about it. And I was a Baptist Born-Again for many years. You add to the verses you quote. The Father put all things under Jesus' feet, and you add "that would include those in hell waiting for the day of judgment." That is your own idea and is not written anywhere in Scripture. Now, if you believed that "hell" was the grave, then it makes sense that there are people who are awaiting their resurrection and the day of judgment. Not people in a fiery hell.

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How many times do you have to be told the meaning of first-born? Go by yourself a good Greek to English Lexicon. If you can't afford one, tell me where you live and I'll send you one.

First-born means the chief, the one highly distinguished and preeminent; ....

Even if first born would mean chief, it says Jesus is the image of God and part of creation.

Okay, believe what you want.

Thank you, we will. And to reply to the title here, there are some things God cannot do. He cannot die, he cannot lie, and he cannot build a mountain that is too high for him to climb to the top.

Why would he want to die? Why would he want to climb a mountain? Weak, very weak.

What is weak about my listing some things that God cannot do? The fact that he cannot die would rule out him actually being Jesus Christ. You don't understand what I'm trying to point out.

Only the Lord's flesh died, and his spirit descended into hell to "lead captivity captive."

The Lord died in every respect. Nothing was left alive. The Scriptures state that "the dead are conscious of nothing at all." (Eccles.9:5) They have no spirit that exits the body and lives on as that person. The "spirit" is God's own Holy Spirit that keeps people alive. It "goes back" to God when a person dies in the sense that He is the Source of life and is responsible for the life of that individual. Jesus "descended into Hell," meaning that he was in his GRAVE for three days. ("Hell" means the GRAVE.)

Ephesians 4:8 (NASB): "When he ascended on HIGH, he led captive a host of captives, and he gave gifts to men."
Ephesians 4:8 (American Standard Version): "When he ascended on HIGH, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men."

It is certain that Jesus did not DESCEND anywhere to "lead captivity captive." It says he ascended on HIGH to lead captivity captive. So you've got that verse turned around. And we've already discussed what his descent into hell means. He was in the grave, because "hell" means the GRAVE. After he was resurrected he ascended on high to take captivity captive. No more captivity for Christians, in false doctrines. And the gifts to men is stated in verse 11: "And he gave some to be apostles; some prophets; and some evangelists; and some pastors and teachers; (12)for the perfecting of the saints, unto the building up of the body of Christ."

This says nothing about Jesus going into hell-fire to take away people from there out of captivity. Why would he do that anyway? People in "hell" in your estimation are wicked.

Hell-fire comes after the great white throne judgment.

I love the way you people take one verse out of context and make a doctrine out of it. Ephesians 4:9, "Now that he (Jesus) ascended, what is it but that he also DESCENDED FIRST into the lower parts of the earth? While the Lord's body lay in the tomb, his spirit descended into hell, the lower part of the earth. And when did all this happen? It happened in the period of the three days his body lay in the tomb.

What did he do when he was there? 1 Peter 3:18-19, Jesus was "Quickened (made alive) by the (Holy) Spirit: by which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison." He preached to the spirits of the dead; The spirit as distinguished from the flesh. The spirit of the Lord Jesus descended into hell between his passion and resurrection, to preach to certain spirits imprisoned in Hades or Sheol.

The word prison refers to the bottomless pit, the abyss, Tartarus, as the prison of demons and the souls of wicked men. Get yourself a good Greek concordance and look it up.

Revelation 20:7, "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison." Same word.

Who were these people he preached to? "They were those who were sometimes (formerly) disobedient, and when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, when the ark was preparing, wherein few, that is eight were saved by water."

And "he (Jesus) led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto them." Who did Jesus lead out of captivity? and who did he give gifts to?

Jesus Hebrews 2:8, the Father has, "Put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he (Father) left nothing that is not put under him." hat would include those in hell waiting for the day of judgment. "ALL THINGS," NOT SOME, BUT ALL.

That is exactly what you do. Take a verse here and there and make a doctrine out of it. For Jesus to be in the "lowest parts of the earth" simply meant that he was in his grave.

So, 6 feet is the "Lowest part of the earth?" Your sense of depth is hyperbolic. So, when Jesus descended Ephesians 3:9, into the lower parts of the earth, he descended 6 feet. And when Samuel came up out of the earth from 6 feet? Okay, if you stand on your toes, you can reach the moon.

Does Jehovah have wings like a bird?

No, he can fly without wings.

Do the mountains really clap their hands? This is called poetic license and there are many verses that are presented in such a way, just to make a much finer point. Jesus didn't literally go into the "lowest parts of the earth." He was in his grave, really dead, not going anywhere.

AFTER he was resurrected (after 3 days), he went to speak to the demons in the spirit realm. This realm is not in the lowest depths of the earth. The demons are all over the earth, above ground. Nowhere does it suggest that the demons are underground.

There are people in hell waiting for judgment? Believers in hell as you define it do not think that anyone is going to get out of it. I've never heard of your doctrine about it. And I was a Baptist Born-Again for many years. You add to the verses you quote. The Father put all things under Jesus' feet, and you add "that would include those in hell waiting for the day of judgment." That is your own idea and is not written anywhere in Scripture. Now, if you believed that "hell" was the grave, then it makes sense that there are people who are awaiting their resurrection and the day of judgment. Not people in a fiery hell.

[Capbook]

....Or was it created? If created, then it can be said Jesus was created like all men. ...

Bible tells Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. But I would not say he is created the same way as other humans.

… He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation....
Col. 1:14

What does it mean to be the "firstborn of all creation"? Is He first of all creation?
Does it follow that "firstborn from the dead", is He the first one being resurrected? (Col 1:18) Whom Jesus is not.
It is clear that Col 1:15, Col 1:18 are illustrative of the nature, as Col 1:16-17 are an evidence of the pre-existence and divinity of Christ.”)

Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence

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Even if first born would mean chief, it says Jesus is the image of God and part of creation.

Okay, believe what you want.

Thank you, we will. And to reply to the title here, there are some things God cannot do. He cannot die, he cannot lie, and he cannot build a mountain that is too high for him to climb to the top.

Why would he want to die? Why would he want to climb a mountain? Weak, very weak.

What is weak about my listing some things that God cannot do? The fact that he cannot die would rule out him actually being Jesus Christ. You don't understand what I'm trying to point out.

Only the Lord's flesh died, and his spirit descended into hell to "lead captivity captive."

The Lord died in every respect. Nothing was left alive. The Scriptures state that "the dead are conscious of nothing at all." (Eccles.9:5) They have no spirit that exits the body and lives on as that person. The "spirit" is God's own Holy Spirit that keeps people alive. It "goes back" to God when a person dies in the sense that He is the Source of life and is responsible for the life of that individual. Jesus "descended into Hell," meaning that he was in his GRAVE for three days. ("Hell" means the GRAVE.)

Ephesians 4:8 (NASB): "When he ascended on HIGH, he led captive a host of captives, and he gave gifts to men."
Ephesians 4:8 (American Standard Version): "When he ascended on HIGH, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men."

It is certain that Jesus did not DESCEND anywhere to "lead captivity captive." It says he ascended on HIGH to lead captivity captive. So you've got that verse turned around. And we've already discussed what his descent into hell means. He was in the grave, because "hell" means the GRAVE. After he was resurrected he ascended on high to take captivity captive. No more captivity for Christians, in false doctrines. And the gifts to men is stated in verse 11: "And he gave some to be apostles; some prophets; and some evangelists; and some pastors and teachers; (12)for the perfecting of the saints, unto the building up of the body of Christ."

This says nothing about Jesus going into hell-fire to take away people from there out of captivity. Why would he do that anyway? People in "hell" in your estimation are wicked.

Hell-fire comes after the great white throne judgment.

I love the way you people take one verse out of context and make a doctrine out of it. Ephesians 4:9, "Now that he (Jesus) ascended, what is it but that he also DESCENDED FIRST into the lower parts of the earth? While the Lord's body lay in the tomb, his spirit descended into hell, the lower part of the earth. And when did all this happen? It happened in the period of the three days his body lay in the tomb.

What did he do when he was there? 1 Peter 3:18-19, Jesus was "Quickened (made alive) by the (Holy) Spirit: by which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison." He preached to the spirits of the dead; The spirit as distinguished from the flesh. The spirit of the Lord Jesus descended into hell between his passion and resurrection, to preach to certain spirits imprisoned in Hades or Sheol.

The word prison refers to the bottomless pit, the abyss, Tartarus, as the prison of demons and the souls of wicked men. Get yourself a good Greek concordance and look it up.

Revelation 20:7, "And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison." Same word.

Who were these people he preached to? "They were those who were sometimes (formerly) disobedient, and when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, when the ark was preparing, wherein few, that is eight were saved by water."

And "he (Jesus) led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto them." Who did Jesus lead out of captivity? and who did he give gifts to?

Jesus Hebrews 2:8, the Father has, "Put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he (Father) left nothing that is not put under him." hat would include those in hell waiting for the day of judgment. "ALL THINGS," NOT SOME, BUT ALL.

That is exactly what you do. Take a verse here and there and make a doctrine out of it. For Jesus to be in the "lowest parts of the earth" simply meant that he was in his grave.

So, 6 feet is the "Lowest part of the earth?" Your sense of depth is hyperbolic. So, when Jesus descended Ephesians 3:9, into the lower parts of the earth, he descended 6 feet. And when Samuel came up out of the earth from 6 feet? Okay, if you stand on your toes, you can reach the moon.

Does Jehovah have wings like a bird?

No, he can fly without wings.

Do the mountains really clap their hands? This is called poetic license and there are many verses that are presented in such a way, just to make a much finer point. Jesus didn't literally go into the "lowest parts of the earth." He was in his grave, really dead, not going anywhere.

AFTER he was resurrected (after 3 days), he went to speak to the demons in the spirit realm. This realm is not in the lowest depths of the earth. The demons are all over the earth, above ground. Nowhere does it suggest that the demons are underground.

There are people in hell waiting for judgment? Believers in hell as you define it do not think that anyone is going to get out of it. I've never heard of your doctrine about it. And I was a Baptist Born-Again for many years. You add to the verses you quote. The Father put all things under Jesus' feet, and you add "that would include those in hell waiting for the day of judgment."

You better give me your explanation or definition of "All." If hell isn't included in the "All things" anything can be excluded.
Revelation 20:1, "And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years." Who do you think delegated this angel to bind the devil? It has to be Jesus because that would include "All things," angels, keys, judgment, hell, lake of fire, "All things."

That is your own idea and is not written anywhere in Scripture. Now, if you believed that "hell" was the grave, then it makes sense that there are people who are awaiting their resurrection and the day of judgment. Not people in a fiery hell.

Revelation 20:13, "And death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them; and they were judged every man according to their works." You don't judge the physically dead. Those who died physically and spiritually will be judged, meaning, they like the rich man are bound in hell until judgment day. They are taken up from hell, brought before the judgment seat of Christ, and there judged. Then verse 14, "they were cast into the lake of fire."

Also, all those, Verse 15, "Not found written in the book of life were cast into the lake of fire." These would be the living.

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....Or was it created? If created, then it can be said Jesus was created like all men. ...

Bible tells Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. But I would not say he is created the same way as other humans.

… He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation....
Col. 1:14

What does it mean to be the "firstborn of all creation"? Is He first of all creation?
Does it follow that "firstborn from the dead", is He the first one being resurrected? (Col 1:18) Whom Jesus is not.
It is clear that Col 1:15, Col 1:18 are illustrative of the nature, as Col 1:16-17 are an evidence of the pre-existence and divinity of Christ.”)

Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence

Thanks, that is a good comparison. I think it means he is first. But, I have no problem with the idea that he is first in rank.

[onewithhim]

....Or was it created? If created, then it can be said Jesus was created like all men. ...

Bible tells Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. But I would not say he is created the same way as other humans.

… He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation....
Col. 1:14

What does it mean to be the "firstborn of all creation"? Is He first of all creation?
Does it follow that "firstborn from the dead", is He the first one being resurrected? (Col 1:18) Whom Jesus is not.
It is clear that Col 1:15, Col 1:18 are illustrative of the nature, as Col 1:16-17 are an evidence of the pre-existence and divinity of Christ.”)

Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence

Jesus is not like other men. Having said that, yes he is the first intelligent being that God created---"the firstborn of all creation." Jesus is also the first one being resurrected---to life in the spirit realm, going back to heaven from whence he came. No one else was ever resurrected to go to heaven, as Jesus indicated at John 3:13. Only after Jesus died and was resurrected did people have the hope of going to heaven to be with Him.

Jesus existed long before any creation, but he is not God. "Divinity" does not mean that a person who is divine is God. I say Jesus is divine but he is not God Almighty. Divine means, "of or from God, or like God or a god. More than humanly excellent." (Illustrated Oxford Dictionary, Lexicographic text copyright 1998 , Oxford University Press, Library of Congress Cataloging-in-Publication Data, DK Publishing, Inc.)

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....Or was it created? If created, then it can be said Jesus was created like all men. ...

Bible tells Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. But I would not say he is created the same way as other humans.

… He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation....
Col. 1:14

What does it mean to be the "firstborn of all creation"? Is He first of all creation?
Does it follow that "firstborn from the dead", is He the first one being resurrected? (Col 1:18) Whom Jesus is not.
It is clear that Col 1:15, Col 1:18 are illustrative of the nature, as Col 1:16-17 are an evidence of the pre-existence and divinity of Christ.”)

Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence

Thanks, that is a good comparison. I think it means he is first. But, I have no problem with the idea that he is first in rank.

Is Jesus the first being resurrected?
By being "the firstborn from the dead? I colored red above?