Is God done with the Jews?

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Exodus 3:2, “The angel of the LORD appeared unto (Moses) in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.” And so, Israel a bush burned with fire, yet not consumed. The chosen people of God, remain the apple of his eye They have been expelled, exposed to misery, persecuted, imprisoned, tortured, and murdered from the time of their captivity in Egypt to this very day, yet Israel lives as a nation. Have you ever asked yourself why, why have the Jews been persecuted so horribly, yet preserved as a people and nation?

God's Plan:
The LORD planned to use a descendant of Noah, from the line of his firstborn son, Shem, to separate a people for himself and create a nation. And through all their corruption, and foolishness, the Jews remain the “apple of God’s eye.” Here is the LORD’s explicit declaration to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, his twelve sons, and all the generations to follow.

Genesis 12:2, “I (the LORD) will make of you a great nation, I will bless you, and make your name great,” The promise of a nation assumes the existence of a national homeland.

Genesis 17:19, “Sarah your wife shall bear you a son indeed, and you shall call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an EVERLASTING covenant, and with his seed (his descendants) after him.”

Now because they sinned against God, the ten Northern tribes were overrun by the Assyrians in 790 B.C. The Babylonians murdered tens of thousands of Jews, and in 586 B.C., Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the Temple and the city of Jerusalem. Around 465 B.C. the Jews escaped the ruin designed for them by Haman. They would suffer the onslaught of Ptolemy Lagus King of Egypt, the dispersion by Seleucus Nicator, the slaughter by Antiochus Epiphanes, the ravaging by Crassus the Roman General, and by Herod the Great.

After murdering the Lord Jesus, the scepter would temporally depart from Judah. But this was only the beginning of Israel’s calamities.
Deuteronomy 28:29, “And you (Israel) shall grope at noonday, as the blind grope in darkness, and you shall not prosper in your ways: and you shall be only oppressed and spoiled (be plundered continually) evermore, and no man shall save you.” See Mathew 24.

Matthew 27:25, As the Lord hung from the cross, the people cried out, “Let his blood be on us and our children.” The people put a curse on their own heads and the heads of their children. Thousands would be killed at Cesarea, Damascus, Bethshan, and Alexandria, by Vespasian, and by the Roman Legions led by Titus. In Jerusalem, over a million were killed, and at Masasada a thousand more died by their own hand. Then the Roman Catholics began their persecution of Jews, this followed by the Islamic hordes, the Ottoman, and most recently Adolph Hitler and his Nazi party who took the lives of 6 million. The LORD’s judgments upon the Jews have been terrible, extending to the people, their religion, and the land. Their ceremonies essential to their religion are no longer observed, except by the Orthodox Jews: also, no longer observed is their ritual law, for they remain without a Temple, altar, and sacrifice.

But the LORD has kept his promise, Ezekiel 37:24, “I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and you shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and all your idols, will I cleanse you.”

The time of cleansing had arrived: It began on May 14, 1948, when a generation of newborn babies came into the World. God’s promise, “This generation shall not pass away until all these things (Matthew wrote about) are fulfilled.” This generation is now 76 years of age. Israel is at war in the North, South and West. Antisemitism abounds throughout the world, and hatred against them is on the rise. There remains for them one friend, the community of Christians. We must continue to pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

The bush of Moses, surrounded with flames, forever burns, yet it will never be consumed.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to The Third Eye in post #2]

You asked, "Are the Jews done with God?"

The Orthodox Jews remain in touch with Jehovah and the law but reject the Son, They believe Jesus existed, but only as a man. Hmm, that's exactly what the Jehovah's Witnesses believe, imagine that.

That is a lie. We do not think that Jesus was only a man. He is the Son of God who came down from heaven, carried out his Father's instructions, then was resurrected back to life and is now in heaven at the right hand of God. He is NOW our King who is involved in organizing the preaching of the Kingdom. (Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:18-20)

What do you mean by the Son of God? And what's the difference between that and Jesus being called the Son of man? You teach that the devil is a son of God, and men are sons of God, so how in your mind does Jesus differ? What form is Jesus now in? If he came down from heaven what would Jesus look like?

In Acts 3:13, the N.W.T. changed Son to Servant.

In Acts 8:37, the N.W.T. left the numbers 37-38 in, but removed the whole verse (its blank) that contains the following, "And he (the eunuch) answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

In Acts 13:33, the N.W.T. changed "Son" to "son," lowercase.

In Romans 1:3, the N.W.T. put Son in, but left out, Jesus Christ our Lord," And I can go on and on. I bet they never left out or changed the name Jehovah in any verse. But when it comes to Jesus, different ball game.

Revelation 22:18-19, "If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life,"

Your disagreements are sour grapes. JWs believe that Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God who was sent to the earth by his Father to save mankind from sin and death. Others can be "sons" of God but not in the same sense as Jesus Christ. Any changes in verses are those that do not destroy the meaning of the verses.

Acts 3:13 is translated the same as the NWT by other versions: The NASB says "servant" instead of "Son" as well, so don't come down on the NWT as if it was the only one.

Acts 8:37 in the NWT shows in a footnote that some manuscripts include "'If you believe with all your heart, it is permissible.' In reply he said: I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." The NWT left it out because certain early manuscripts had not included it. (Leaving it out does not mean that JWs don't agree with it. We certainly do.) The NASB says in a footnote that "early mss do not contain this verse."

Romans 1:3: The words "Jesus Christ our Lord" is absent from the NASB as well as the NWT. It's not just the NWT that has these various differences. The NIV leaves out those words also. So does the Revised Standard Version. I could go on and on.

There is no different ball game when it comes to Jesus. He is shown to be the Son of God, our Lord and King, throughout the NWT.

Jesus is now in the same form as that of God---Spirit. (John 4:24) He is at the right hand of God, so how could he be a physical Person? Flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of God (I Corinth. 15:50). As it says in the Scripture: "'The first man Adam became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (I Corinthians 15:45, The New American Bible; King James Version; American Standard Version and many more.) If he came down from heaven he would materialize a body that looks like a well-dressed and -groomed man, the way men look at our Kingdom Halls.

Why are you so intent on going after the NWT? What do you get out of it? It has not changed the meanings of anything, and follows what innumerable other versions have done.

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[Replying to The Third Eye in post #2]

You asked, "Are the Jews done with God?"

The Orthodox Jews remain in touch with Jehovah and the law but reject the Son, They believe Jesus existed, but only as a man. Hmm, that's exactly what the Jehovah's Witnesses believe, imagine that.

That is a lie. We do not think that Jesus was only a man. He is the Son of God who came down from heaven, carried out his Father's instructions, then was resurrected back to life and is now in heaven at the right hand of God. He is NOW our King who is involved in organizing the preaching of the Kingdom. (Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:18-20)

What do you mean by the Son of God? And what's the difference between that and Jesus being called the Son of man? You teach that the devil is a son of God, and men are sons of God, so how in your mind does Jesus differ? What form is Jesus now in? If he came down from heaven what would Jesus look like?

In Acts 3:13, the N.W.T. changed Son to Servant.

In Acts 8:37, the N.W.T. left the numbers 37-38 in, but removed the whole verse (its blank) that contains the following, "And he (the eunuch) answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

In Acts 13:33, the N.W.T. changed "Son" to "son," lowercase.

In Romans 1:3, the N.W.T. put Son in, but left out, Jesus Christ our Lord," And I can go on and on. I bet they never left out or changed the name Jehovah in any verse. But when it comes to Jesus, different ball game.

Revelation 22:18-19, "If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life,"

Your disagreements are sour grapes. JWs believe that Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God who was sent to the earth by his Father to save mankind from sin and death. Others can be "sons" of God but not in the same sense as Jesus Christ. Any changes in verses are those that do not destroy the meaning of the verses.

Acts 3:13 is translated the same as the NWT by other versions: The NASB says "servant" instead of "Son" as well, so don't come down on the NWT as if it was the only one.

Acts 8:37 in the NWT shows in a footnote that some manuscripts include "'If you believe with all your heart, it is permissible.' In reply he said: I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." The NWT left it out because certain early manuscripts had not included it. (Leaving it out does not mean that JWs don't agree with it. We certainly do.) The NASB says in a footnote that "early mss do not contain this verse."

Romans 1:3: The words "Jesus Christ our Lord" is absent from the NASB as well as the NWT. It's not just the NWT that has these various differences. The NIV leaves out those words also. So does the Revised Standard Version. I could go on and on.

There is no different ball game when it comes to Jesus. He is shown to be the Son of God, our Lord and King, throughout the NWT.

Jesus is now in the same form as that of God---Spirit. (John 4:24) He is at the right hand of God, so how could he be a physical Person? Flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of God (I Corinth. 15:50). As it says in the Scripture: "'The first man Adam became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (I Corinthians 15:45, The New American Bible; King James Version; American Standard Version and many more.) If he came down from heaven he would materialize a body that looks like a well-dressed and -groomed man, the way men look at our Kingdom Halls.

Why are you so intent on going after the NWT? What do you get out of it? It has not changed the meanings of anything, and follows what innumerable other versions have done.

Why? Because of the history of the manuscripts the N.W.T. uses, as do most every modern-day Bible as their foundation text. If you examined the history of the A. and B. texts honestly, you would have the answer to your own question. But you won't because your organization tells you not to, which to me is NUTS! That's why I left the Catholic church; I don't need any Pope or bishop or father to do my thinking. I can think for myself, I don't need anyone to make decisions for me, or how to understand what is. Some people do because they're weak. There's nothing wrong with being weak, but the weak should not be teaching. Why? Because they are weak!

[onewithhim]

[Replying to The Third Eye in post #2]

You asked, "Are the Jews done with God?"

The Orthodox Jews remain in touch with Jehovah and the law but reject the Son, They believe Jesus existed, but only as a man. Hmm, that's exactly what the Jehovah's Witnesses believe, imagine that.

That is a lie. We do not think that Jesus was only a man. He is the Son of God who came down from heaven, carried out his Father's instructions, then was resurrected back to life and is now in heaven at the right hand of God. He is NOW our King who is involved in organizing the preaching of the Kingdom. (Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:18-20)

What do you mean by the Son of God? And what's the difference between that and Jesus being called the Son of man? You teach that the devil is a son of God, and men are sons of God, so how in your mind does Jesus differ? What form is Jesus now in? If he came down from heaven what would Jesus look like?

In Acts 3:13, the N.W.T. changed Son to Servant.

In Acts 8:37, the N.W.T. left the numbers 37-38 in, but removed the whole verse (its blank) that contains the following, "And he (the eunuch) answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

In Acts 13:33, the N.W.T. changed "Son" to "son," lowercase.

In Romans 1:3, the N.W.T. put Son in, but left out, Jesus Christ our Lord," And I can go on and on. I bet they never left out or changed the name Jehovah in any verse. But when it comes to Jesus, different ball game.

Revelation 22:18-19, "If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life,"

Your disagreements are sour grapes. JWs believe that Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God who was sent to the earth by his Father to save mankind from sin and death. Others can be "sons" of God but not in the same sense as Jesus Christ. Any changes in verses are those that do not destroy the meaning of the verses.

Acts 3:13 is translated the same as the NWT by other versions: The NASB says "servant" instead of "Son" as well, so don't come down on the NWT as if it was the only one.

Acts 8:37 in the NWT shows in a footnote that some manuscripts include "'If you believe with all your heart, it is permissible.' In reply he said: I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." The NWT left it out because certain early manuscripts had not included it. (Leaving it out does not mean that JWs don't agree with it. We certainly do.) The NASB says in a footnote that "early mss do not contain this verse."

Romans 1:3: The words "Jesus Christ our Lord" is absent from the NASB as well as the NWT. It's not just the NWT that has these various differences. The NIV leaves out those words also. So does the Revised Standard Version. I could go on and on.

There is no different ball game when it comes to Jesus. He is shown to be the Son of God, our Lord and King, throughout the NWT.

Jesus is now in the same form as that of God---Spirit. (John 4:24) He is at the right hand of God, so how could he be a physical Person? Flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of God (I Corinth. 15:50). As it says in the Scripture: "'The first man Adam became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (I Corinthians 15:45, The New American Bible; King James Version; American Standard Version and many more.) If he came down from heaven he would materialize a body that looks like a well-dressed and -groomed man, the way men look at our Kingdom Halls.

Why are you so intent on going after the NWT? What do you get out of it? It has not changed the meanings of anything, and follows what innumerable other versions have done.

Why? Because of the history of the manuscripts the N.W.T. uses, as do most every modern-day Bible as their foundation text. If you examined the history of the A. and B. texts honestly, you would have the answer to your own question. But you won't because your organization tells you not to, which to me is NUTS! That's why I left the Catholic church; I don't need any Pope or bishop or father to do my thinking. I can think for myself, I don't need anyone to make decisions for me, or how to understand what is. Some people do because they're weak. There's nothing wrong with being weak, but the weak should not be teaching. Why? Because they are weak!

Many others would not consider us "weak." JWs think for themselves. We don't take anybody's word for anything until we can research it for ourselves, which I have done. If you have researched, why don't you know that Jesus himself said we are to worship the Father alone? And that His name is important? And that we are to pray to the Father? You are so wrapped up in your "old-time religion" that you can't see the forest for the trees, apparently. Come to think of it, though, old-time religion was more aware of Jehovah and used the American Standard Version quite extensively, which includes God's name where it should be. His name is included in many old-time songs. He has been forgotten as time has rolled on.

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[Replying to The Third Eye in post #2]

You asked, "Are the Jews done with God?"

The Orthodox Jews remain in touch with Jehovah and the law but reject the Son, They believe Jesus existed, but only as a man. Hmm, that's exactly what the Jehovah's Witnesses believe, imagine that.

That is a lie. We do not think that Jesus was only a man. He is the Son of God who came down from heaven, carried out his Father's instructions, then was resurrected back to life and is now in heaven at the right hand of God. He is NOW our King who is involved in organizing the preaching of the Kingdom. (Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:18-20)

What do you mean by the Son of God? And what's the difference between that and Jesus being called the Son of man? You teach that the devil is a son of God, and men are sons of God, so how in your mind does Jesus differ? What form is Jesus now in? If he came down from heaven what would Jesus look like?

In Acts 3:13, the N.W.T. changed Son to Servant.

In Acts 8:37, the N.W.T. left the numbers 37-38 in, but removed the whole verse (its blank) that contains the following, "And he (the eunuch) answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

In Acts 13:33, the N.W.T. changed "Son" to "son," lowercase.

In Romans 1:3, the N.W.T. put Son in, but left out, Jesus Christ our Lord," And I can go on and on. I bet they never left out or changed the name Jehovah in any verse. But when it comes to Jesus, different ball game.

Revelation 22:18-19, "If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life,"

Your disagreements are sour grapes. JWs believe that Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God who was sent to the earth by his Father to save mankind from sin and death. Others can be "sons" of God but not in the same sense as Jesus Christ. Any changes in verses are those that do not destroy the meaning of the verses.

Acts 3:13 is translated the same as the NWT by other versions: The NASB says "servant" instead of "Son" as well, so don't come down on the NWT as if it was the only one.

Acts 8:37 in the NWT shows in a footnote that some manuscripts include "'If you believe with all your heart, it is permissible.' In reply he said: I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." The NWT left it out because certain early manuscripts had not included it. (Leaving it out does not mean that JWs don't agree with it. We certainly do.) The NASB says in a footnote that "early mss do not contain this verse."

Romans 1:3: The words "Jesus Christ our Lord" is absent from the NASB as well as the NWT. It's not just the NWT that has these various differences. The NIV leaves out those words also. So does the Revised Standard Version. I could go on and on.

There is no different ball game when it comes to Jesus. He is shown to be the Son of God, our Lord and King, throughout the NWT.

Jesus is now in the same form as that of God---Spirit. (John 4:24) He is at the right hand of God, so how could he be a physical Person? Flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of God (I Corinth. 15:50). As it says in the Scripture: "'The first man Adam became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (I Corinthians 15:45, The New American Bible; King James Version; American Standard Version and many more.) If he came down from heaven he would materialize a body that looks like a well-dressed and -groomed man, the way men look at our Kingdom Halls.

Why are you so intent on going after the NWT? What do you get out of it? It has not changed the meanings of anything, and follows what innumerable other versions have done.

Why? Because of the history of the manuscripts the N.W.T. uses, as do most every modern-day Bible as their foundation text. If you examined the history of the A. and B. texts honestly, you would have the answer to your own question. But you won't because your organization tells you not to, which to me is NUTS! That's why I left the Catholic church; I don't need any Pope or bishop or father to do my thinking. I can think for myself, I don't need anyone to make decisions for me, or how to understand what is. Some people do because they're weak. There's nothing wrong with being weak, but the weak should not be teaching. Why? Because they are weak!

Many others would not consider us "weak." JWs think for themselves.

Come on now, you get all your talking points from the watchtower.

We don't take anybody's word for anything until we can research it for ourselves, which I have done.

You will not read anything other than what comes from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

One more thing, The Jehovah's Witnesses did not invent the name of Jehovah, it's been used for the past 3500 years. If the use of LORD, and God is such an itch for you, why does the N.W.T. still have LORD and God in their Bible? You changed most, but not all. Why? because their organization is inconsistent.

I'd wish you a Merry Christmas, but you don't believe in setting one day aside to remind people who have forgotten there is a Lord, and a Savior waiting with open arms for them. That one word, "Christmas" may bring a non-believer to the door of a church to ask about the man they call Christ.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to The Third Eye in post #2]

You asked, "Are the Jews done with God?"

The Orthodox Jews remain in touch with Jehovah and the law but reject the Son, They believe Jesus existed, but only as a man. Hmm, that's exactly what the Jehovah's Witnesses believe, imagine that.

That is a lie. We do not think that Jesus was only a man. He is the Son of God who came down from heaven, carried out his Father's instructions, then was resurrected back to life and is now in heaven at the right hand of God. He is NOW our King who is involved in organizing the preaching of the Kingdom. (Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:18-20)

What do you mean by the Son of God? And what's the difference between that and Jesus being called the Son of man? You teach that the devil is a son of God, and men are sons of God, so how in your mind does Jesus differ? What form is Jesus now in? If he came down from heaven what would Jesus look like?

In Acts 3:13, the N.W.T. changed Son to Servant.

In Acts 8:37, the N.W.T. left the numbers 37-38 in, but removed the whole verse (its blank) that contains the following, "And he (the eunuch) answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

In Acts 13:33, the N.W.T. changed "Son" to "son," lowercase.

In Romans 1:3, the N.W.T. put Son in, but left out, Jesus Christ our Lord," And I can go on and on. I bet they never left out or changed the name Jehovah in any verse. But when it comes to Jesus, different ball game.

Revelation 22:18-19, "If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life,"

Your disagreements are sour grapes. JWs believe that Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God who was sent to the earth by his Father to save mankind from sin and death. Others can be "sons" of God but not in the same sense as Jesus Christ. Any changes in verses are those that do not destroy the meaning of the verses.

Acts 3:13 is translated the same as the NWT by other versions: The NASB says "servant" instead of "Son" as well, so don't come down on the NWT as if it was the only one.

Acts 8:37 in the NWT shows in a footnote that some manuscripts include "'If you believe with all your heart, it is permissible.' In reply he said: I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." The NWT left it out because certain early manuscripts had not included it. (Leaving it out does not mean that JWs don't agree with it. We certainly do.) The NASB says in a footnote that "early mss do not contain this verse."

Romans 1:3: The words "Jesus Christ our Lord" is absent from the NASB as well as the NWT. It's not just the NWT that has these various differences. The NIV leaves out those words also. So does the Revised Standard Version. I could go on and on.

There is no different ball game when it comes to Jesus. He is shown to be the Son of God, our Lord and King, throughout the NWT.

Jesus is now in the same form as that of God---Spirit. (John 4:24) He is at the right hand of God, so how could he be a physical Person? Flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of God (I Corinth. 15:50). As it says in the Scripture: "'The first man Adam became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (I Corinthians 15:45, The New American Bible; King James Version; American Standard Version and many more.) If he came down from heaven he would materialize a body that looks like a well-dressed and -groomed man, the way men look at our Kingdom Halls.

Why are you so intent on going after the NWT? What do you get out of it? It has not changed the meanings of anything, and follows what innumerable other versions have done.

Why? Because of the history of the manuscripts the N.W.T. uses, as do most every modern-day Bible as their foundation text. If you examined the history of the A. and B. texts honestly, you would have the answer to your own question. But you won't because your organization tells you not to, which to me is NUTS! That's why I left the Catholic church; I don't need any Pope or bishop or father to do my thinking. I can think for myself, I don't need anyone to make decisions for me, or how to understand what is. Some people do because they're weak. There's nothing wrong with being weak, but the weak should not be teaching. Why? Because they are weak!

Many others would not consider us "weak." JWs think for themselves.

Come on now, you get all your talking points from the watchtower.

We don't take anybody's word for anything until we can research it for ourselves, which I have done.

You will not read anything other than what comes from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

One more thing, The Jehovah's Witnesses did not invent the name of Jehovah, it's been used for the past 3500 years. If the use of LORD, and God is such an itch for you, why does the N.W.T. still have LORD and God in their Bible? You changed most, but not all. Why? because their organization is inconsistent.

I'd wish you a Merry Christmas, but you don't believe in setting one day aside to remind people who have forgotten there is a Lord, and a Savior waiting with open arms for them. That one word, "Christmas" may bring a non-believer to the door of a church to ask about the man they call Christ.

You have got untrue ideas about JWs. You keep throwing those lies up on these threads and probably discourage honest-hearted people from finding the Truth about God. I don't get "all of my talking points from the Watchtower." They come from my own brain. You say I "will not read anything other than what comes from the Watchtower." So untrue. JWs read all kinds of books, newspapers, magazines that are secular. BTW, how do you think you know what I think and do? Do you know me? Have you spoken with JWs at all, not just to berate them? Or berating them is all you do instead of asking them questions and listening to their answers?

Of course we didn't invent the name of Jehovah, thank you very much. It is God's personal name, seen as the Tetragrammaton in the original Hebrew language. Hebrew for YHWH. The NWT has Lord and God in their version because there are mentions of other lords and gods that are not Jehovah. "LORD" in all caps is where the name appears, and the NWT translates it correctly in all of the 7,000 places it appears in the O.T. (So do some other versions, such as Young's Literal Translation; the Living Bible; the Jerusalem Bible; the American Standard Version; the Divine Name King James Version. You can see the Tetragrammaton in any Jewish Bible. They just don't pronounce it.

We don't set one day aside to remind people about Jesus. We do that every day, in our own worship, and in our door-to-door ministry (as well as carts on the streets and informal witnessing.) EVERY DAY. Non-believers are reached with the truth about Jesus, and they will be informed. Many have come to the Kingdom Hall to find out.

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[Replying to The Third Eye in post #2]

You asked, "Are the Jews done with God?"

The Orthodox Jews remain in touch with Jehovah and the law but reject the Son, They believe Jesus existed, but only as a man. Hmm, that's exactly what the Jehovah's Witnesses believe, imagine that.

That is a lie. We do not think that Jesus was only a man. He is the Son of God who came down from heaven, carried out his Father's instructions, then was resurrected back to life and is now in heaven at the right hand of God. He is NOW our King who is involved in organizing the preaching of the Kingdom. (Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:18-20)

What do you mean by the Son of God? And what's the difference between that and Jesus being called the Son of man? You teach that the devil is a son of God, and men are sons of God, so how in your mind does Jesus differ? What form is Jesus now in? If he came down from heaven what would Jesus look like?

In Acts 3:13, the N.W.T. changed Son to Servant.

In Acts 8:37, the N.W.T. left the numbers 37-38 in, but removed the whole verse (its blank) that contains the following, "And he (the eunuch) answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

In Acts 13:33, the N.W.T. changed "Son" to "son," lowercase.

In Romans 1:3, the N.W.T. put Son in, but left out, Jesus Christ our Lord," And I can go on and on. I bet they never left out or changed the name Jehovah in any verse. But when it comes to Jesus, different ball game.

Revelation 22:18-19, "If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life,"

Your disagreements are sour grapes. JWs believe that Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God who was sent to the earth by his Father to save mankind from sin and death. Others can be "sons" of God but not in the same sense as Jesus Christ. Any changes in verses are those that do not destroy the meaning of the verses.

Acts 3:13 is translated the same as the NWT by other versions: The NASB says "servant" instead of "Son" as well, so don't come down on the NWT as if it was the only one.

Acts 8:37 in the NWT shows in a footnote that some manuscripts include "'If you believe with all your heart, it is permissible.' In reply he said: I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." The NWT left it out because certain early manuscripts had not included it. (Leaving it out does not mean that JWs don't agree with it. We certainly do.) The NASB says in a footnote that "early mss do not contain this verse."

Romans 1:3: The words "Jesus Christ our Lord" is absent from the NASB as well as the NWT. It's not just the NWT that has these various differences. The NIV leaves out those words also. So does the Revised Standard Version. I could go on and on.

There is no different ball game when it comes to Jesus. He is shown to be the Son of God, our Lord and King, throughout the NWT.

Jesus is now in the same form as that of God---Spirit. (John 4:24) He is at the right hand of God, so how could he be a physical Person? Flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of God (I Corinth. 15:50). As it says in the Scripture: "'The first man Adam became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (I Corinthians 15:45, The New American Bible; King James Version; American Standard Version and many more.) If he came down from heaven he would materialize a body that looks like a well-dressed and -groomed man, the way men look at our Kingdom Halls.

Why are you so intent on going after the NWT? What do you get out of it? It has not changed the meanings of anything, and follows what innumerable other versions have done.

Why? Because of the history of the manuscripts the N.W.T. uses, as do most every modern-day Bible as their foundation text. If you examined the history of the A. and B. texts honestly, you would have the answer to your own question. But you won't because your organization tells you not to, which to me is NUTS! That's why I left the Catholic church; I don't need any Pope or bishop or father to do my thinking. I can think for myself, I don't need anyone to make decisions for me, or how to understand what is. Some people do because they're weak. There's nothing wrong with being weak, but the weak should not be teaching. Why? Because they are weak!

Many others would not consider us "weak." JWs think for themselves.

Come on now, you get all your talking points from the watchtower.

We don't take anybody's word for anything until we can research it for ourselves, which I have done.

You will not read anything other than what comes from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

One more thing, The Jehovah's Witnesses did not invent the name of Jehovah, it's been used for the past 3500 years. If the use of LORD, and God is such an itch for you, why does the N.W.T. still have LORD and God in their Bible? You changed most, but not all. Why? because their organization is inconsistent.

I'd wish you a Merry Christmas, but you don't believe in setting one day aside to remind people who have forgotten there is a Lord, and a Savior waiting with open arms for them. That one word, "Christmas" may bring a non-believer to the door of a church to ask about the man they call Christ.

You have got untrue ideas about JWs. You keep throwing those lies up on these threads and probably discourage honest-hearted people from finding the Truth about God. I don't get "all of my talking points from the Watchtower." They come from my own brain. You say I "will not read anything other than what comes from the Watchtower." So untrue. JWs read all kinds of books, newspapers, magazines that are secular. BTW, how do you think you know what I think and do? Do you know me? Have you spoken with JWs at all, not just to berate them? Or berating them is all you do instead of asking them questions and listening to their answers?

Of course we didn't invent the name of Jehovah, thank you very much. It is God's personal name, seen as the Tetragrammaton in the original Hebrew language. Hebrew for YHWH. The NWT has Lord and God in their version because there are mentions of other lords and gods that are not Jehovah. "LORD" in all caps is where the name appears, and the NWT translates it correctly in all of the 7,000 places it appears in the O.T. (So do some other versions, such as Young's Literal Translation; the Living Bible; the Jerusalem Bible; the American Standard Version; the Divine Name King James Version. You can see the Tetragrammaton in any Jewish Bible. They just don't pronounce it.

We don't set one day aside to remind people about Jesus. We do that every day, in our own worship, and in our door-to-door ministry (as well as carts on the streets and informal witnessing.) EVERY DAY. Non-believers are reached with the truth about Jesus, and they will be informed. Many have come to the Kingdom Hall to find out.

Sir, I have been dealing directly with Jehovah's Witnesses since 1970 when my three sisters, their husbands, their sons and daughters, and my mother turned to your organization. I will say this with all honesty, I probably know more about your teachings than most people in any of your congregation. I have 5 years of your Watchtowers, Awakes, and diglots sitting in bookcases and have read them all. I also have four copywrites of your Bible, and testimonies (books) written by those who were once Witnesses but left. When a Witness comes to my door, I invite them in, because I respect them as men and women. We talk, face to face, and have been complimented by them for my knowledge of the Bible. I have never been a Witness, but for the respect of my family, I have attended your yearly get-togethers, churches, weddings, and weekly meetings. I do not think they are corrupt, just misled. That's my take.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to The Third Eye in post #2]

You asked, "Are the Jews done with God?"

The Orthodox Jews remain in touch with Jehovah and the law but reject the Son, They believe Jesus existed, but only as a man. Hmm, that's exactly what the Jehovah's Witnesses believe, imagine that.

That is a lie. We do not think that Jesus was only a man. He is the Son of God who came down from heaven, carried out his Father's instructions, then was resurrected back to life and is now in heaven at the right hand of God. He is NOW our King who is involved in organizing the preaching of the Kingdom. (Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:18-20)

What do you mean by the Son of God? And what's the difference between that and Jesus being called the Son of man? You teach that the devil is a son of God, and men are sons of God, so how in your mind does Jesus differ? What form is Jesus now in? If he came down from heaven what would Jesus look like?

In Acts 3:13, the N.W.T. changed Son to Servant.

In Acts 8:37, the N.W.T. left the numbers 37-38 in, but removed the whole verse (its blank) that contains the following, "And he (the eunuch) answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

In Acts 13:33, the N.W.T. changed "Son" to "son," lowercase.

In Romans 1:3, the N.W.T. put Son in, but left out, Jesus Christ our Lord," And I can go on and on. I bet they never left out or changed the name Jehovah in any verse. But when it comes to Jesus, different ball game.

Revelation 22:18-19, "If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life,"

Your disagreements are sour grapes. JWs believe that Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God who was sent to the earth by his Father to save mankind from sin and death. Others can be "sons" of God but not in the same sense as Jesus Christ. Any changes in verses are those that do not destroy the meaning of the verses.

Acts 3:13 is translated the same as the NWT by other versions: The NASB says "servant" instead of "Son" as well, so don't come down on the NWT as if it was the only one.

Acts 8:37 in the NWT shows in a footnote that some manuscripts include "'If you believe with all your heart, it is permissible.' In reply he said: I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." The NWT left it out because certain early manuscripts had not included it. (Leaving it out does not mean that JWs don't agree with it. We certainly do.) The NASB says in a footnote that "early mss do not contain this verse."

Romans 1:3: The words "Jesus Christ our Lord" is absent from the NASB as well as the NWT. It's not just the NWT that has these various differences. The NIV leaves out those words also. So does the Revised Standard Version. I could go on and on.

There is no different ball game when it comes to Jesus. He is shown to be the Son of God, our Lord and King, throughout the NWT.

Jesus is now in the same form as that of God---Spirit. (John 4:24) He is at the right hand of God, so how could he be a physical Person? Flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of God (I Corinth. 15:50). As it says in the Scripture: "'The first man Adam became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (I Corinthians 15:45, The New American Bible; King James Version; American Standard Version and many more.) If he came down from heaven he would materialize a body that looks like a well-dressed and -groomed man, the way men look at our Kingdom Halls.

Why are you so intent on going after the NWT? What do you get out of it? It has not changed the meanings of anything, and follows what innumerable other versions have done.

Why? Because of the history of the manuscripts the N.W.T. uses, as do most every modern-day Bible as their foundation text. If you examined the history of the A. and B. texts honestly, you would have the answer to your own question. But you won't because your organization tells you not to, which to me is NUTS! That's why I left the Catholic church; I don't need any Pope or bishop or father to do my thinking. I can think for myself, I don't need anyone to make decisions for me, or how to understand what is. Some people do because they're weak. There's nothing wrong with being weak, but the weak should not be teaching. Why? Because they are weak!

Many others would not consider us "weak." JWs think for themselves.

Come on now, you get all your talking points from the watchtower.

We don't take anybody's word for anything until we can research it for ourselves, which I have done.

You will not read anything other than what comes from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

One more thing, The Jehovah's Witnesses did not invent the name of Jehovah, it's been used for the past 3500 years. If the use of LORD, and God is such an itch for you, why does the N.W.T. still have LORD and God in their Bible? You changed most, but not all. Why? because their organization is inconsistent.

I'd wish you a Merry Christmas, but you don't believe in setting one day aside to remind people who have forgotten there is a Lord, and a Savior waiting with open arms for them. That one word, "Christmas" may bring a non-believer to the door of a church to ask about the man they call Christ.

You have got untrue ideas about JWs. You keep throwing those lies up on these threads and probably discourage honest-hearted people from finding the Truth about God. I don't get "all of my talking points from the Watchtower." They come from my own brain. You say I "will not read anything other than what comes from the Watchtower." So untrue. JWs read all kinds of books, newspapers, magazines that are secular. BTW, how do you think you know what I think and do? Do you know me? Have you spoken with JWs at all, not just to berate them? Or berating them is all you do instead of asking them questions and listening to their answers?

Of course we didn't invent the name of Jehovah, thank you very much. It is God's personal name, seen as the Tetragrammaton in the original Hebrew language. Hebrew for YHWH. The NWT has Lord and God in their version because there are mentions of other lords and gods that are not Jehovah. "LORD" in all caps is where the name appears, and the NWT translates it correctly in all of the 7,000 places it appears in the O.T. (So do some other versions, such as Young's Literal Translation; the Living Bible; the Jerusalem Bible; the American Standard Version; the Divine Name King James Version. You can see the Tetragrammaton in any Jewish Bible. They just don't pronounce it.

We don't set one day aside to remind people about Jesus. We do that every day, in our own worship, and in our door-to-door ministry (as well as carts on the streets and informal witnessing.) EVERY DAY. Non-believers are reached with the truth about Jesus, and they will be informed. Many have come to the Kingdom Hall to find out.

Sir, I have been dealing directly with Jehovah's Witnesses since 1970 when my three sisters, their husbands, their sons and daughters, and my mother turned to your organization. I will say this with all honesty, I probably know more about your teachings than most people in any of your congregation. I have 5 years of your Watchtowers, Awakes, and diglots sitting in bookcases and have read them all. I also have four copywrites of your Bible, and testimonies (books) written by those who were once Witnesses but left. When a Witness comes to my door, I invite them in, because I respect them as men and women. We talk, face to face, and have been complimented by them for my knowledge of the Bible. I have never been a Witness, but for the respect of my family, I have attended your yearly get-togethers, churches, weddings, and weekly meetings. I do not think they are corrupt, just misled. That's my take.

It's a shame that you haven't heard "the ring of truth" when having such a rich history with JWs. You do not want the pearls that are being cast before you, trying to tell you something. I have to say, you do not know our teachings because you got most of your list of 141 things that JWs do wrong from your own imagination. You do not know what we do or what we think. But I want to commend you for being civil to your family and JWs who come to your door.

[placebofactor]

[Replying to The Third Eye in post #2]

You asked, "Are the Jews done with God?"

The Orthodox Jews remain in touch with Jehovah and the law but reject the Son, They believe Jesus existed, but only as a man. Hmm, that's exactly what the Jehovah's Witnesses believe, imagine that.

That is a lie. We do not think that Jesus was only a man. He is the Son of God who came down from heaven, carried out his Father's instructions, then was resurrected back to life and is now in heaven at the right hand of God. He is NOW our King who is involved in organizing the preaching of the Kingdom. (Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:18-20)

What do you mean by the Son of God? And what's the difference between that and Jesus being called the Son of man? You teach that the devil is a son of God, and men are sons of God, so how in your mind does Jesus differ? What form is Jesus now in? If he came down from heaven what would Jesus look like?

In Acts 3:13, the N.W.T. changed Son to Servant.

In Acts 8:37, the N.W.T. left the numbers 37-38 in, but removed the whole verse (its blank) that contains the following, "And he (the eunuch) answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

In Acts 13:33, the N.W.T. changed "Son" to "son," lowercase.

In Romans 1:3, the N.W.T. put Son in, but left out, Jesus Christ our Lord," And I can go on and on. I bet they never left out or changed the name Jehovah in any verse. But when it comes to Jesus, different ball game.

Revelation 22:18-19, "If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life,"

Your disagreements are sour grapes. JWs believe that Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God who was sent to the earth by his Father to save mankind from sin and death. Others can be "sons" of God but not in the same sense as Jesus Christ. Any changes in verses are those that do not destroy the meaning of the verses.

Acts 3:13 is translated the same as the NWT by other versions: The NASB says "servant" instead of "Son" as well, so don't come down on the NWT as if it was the only one.

Acts 8:37 in the NWT shows in a footnote that some manuscripts include "'If you believe with all your heart, it is permissible.' In reply he said: I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." The NWT left it out because certain early manuscripts had not included it. (Leaving it out does not mean that JWs don't agree with it. We certainly do.) The NASB says in a footnote that "early mss do not contain this verse."

Romans 1:3: The words "Jesus Christ our Lord" is absent from the NASB as well as the NWT. It's not just the NWT that has these various differences. The NIV leaves out those words also. So does the Revised Standard Version. I could go on and on.

There is no different ball game when it comes to Jesus. He is shown to be the Son of God, our Lord and King, throughout the NWT.

Jesus is now in the same form as that of God---Spirit. (John 4:24) He is at the right hand of God, so how could he be a physical Person? Flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of God (I Corinth. 15:50). As it says in the Scripture: "'The first man Adam became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (I Corinthians 15:45, The New American Bible; King James Version; American Standard Version and many more.) If he came down from heaven he would materialize a body that looks like a well-dressed and -groomed man, the way men look at our Kingdom Halls.

Why are you so intent on going after the NWT? What do you get out of it? It has not changed the meanings of anything, and follows what innumerable other versions have done.

Why? Because of the history of the manuscripts the N.W.T. uses, as do most every modern-day Bible as their foundation text. If you examined the history of the A. and B. texts honestly, you would have the answer to your own question. But you won't because your organization tells you not to, which to me is NUTS! That's why I left the Catholic church; I don't need any Pope or bishop or father to do my thinking. I can think for myself, I don't need anyone to make decisions for me, or how to understand what is. Some people do because they're weak. There's nothing wrong with being weak, but the weak should not be teaching. Why? Because they are weak!

Many others would not consider us "weak." JWs think for themselves. We don't take anybody's word for anything until we can research it for ourselves,"

That's true, But, you have no idea of the education of those who claimed to be Hebrew and Greek scholars who translated and put together the N.W.T. Also tell us why the Witnesses now deny Taze Russel as the founder of your organization yet claim to be several hundred years old?

[onewithhim]

[Replying to The Third Eye in post #2]

You asked, "Are the Jews done with God?"

The Orthodox Jews remain in touch with Jehovah and the law but reject the Son, They believe Jesus existed, but only as a man. Hmm, that's exactly what the Jehovah's Witnesses believe, imagine that.

That is a lie. We do not think that Jesus was only a man. He is the Son of God who came down from heaven, carried out his Father's instructions, then was resurrected back to life and is now in heaven at the right hand of God. He is NOW our King who is involved in organizing the preaching of the Kingdom. (Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:18-20)

What do you mean by the Son of God? And what's the difference between that and Jesus being called the Son of man? You teach that the devil is a son of God, and men are sons of God, so how in your mind does Jesus differ? What form is Jesus now in? If he came down from heaven what would Jesus look like?

In Acts 3:13, the N.W.T. changed Son to Servant.

In Acts 8:37, the N.W.T. left the numbers 37-38 in, but removed the whole verse (its blank) that contains the following, "And he (the eunuch) answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

In Acts 13:33, the N.W.T. changed "Son" to "son," lowercase.

In Romans 1:3, the N.W.T. put Son in, but left out, Jesus Christ our Lord," And I can go on and on. I bet they never left out or changed the name Jehovah in any verse. But when it comes to Jesus, different ball game.

Revelation 22:18-19, "If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life,"

Your disagreements are sour grapes. JWs believe that Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God who was sent to the earth by his Father to save mankind from sin and death. Others can be "sons" of God but not in the same sense as Jesus Christ. Any changes in verses are those that do not destroy the meaning of the verses.

Acts 3:13 is translated the same as the NWT by other versions: The NASB says "servant" instead of "Son" as well, so don't come down on the NWT as if it was the only one.

Acts 8:37 in the NWT shows in a footnote that some manuscripts include "'If you believe with all your heart, it is permissible.' In reply he said: I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." The NWT left it out because certain early manuscripts had not included it. (Leaving it out does not mean that JWs don't agree with it. We certainly do.) The NASB says in a footnote that "early mss do not contain this verse."

Romans 1:3: The words "Jesus Christ our Lord" is absent from the NASB as well as the NWT. It's not just the NWT that has these various differences. The NIV leaves out those words also. So does the Revised Standard Version. I could go on and on.

There is no different ball game when it comes to Jesus. He is shown to be the Son of God, our Lord and King, throughout the NWT.

Jesus is now in the same form as that of God---Spirit. (John 4:24) He is at the right hand of God, so how could he be a physical Person? Flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of God (I Corinth. 15:50). As it says in the Scripture: "'The first man Adam became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (I Corinthians 15:45, The New American Bible; King James Version; American Standard Version and many more.) If he came down from heaven he would materialize a body that looks like a well-dressed and -groomed man, the way men look at our Kingdom Halls.

Why are you so intent on going after the NWT? What do you get out of it? It has not changed the meanings of anything, and follows what innumerable other versions have done.

Why? Because of the history of the manuscripts the N.W.T. uses, as do most every modern-day Bible as their foundation text. If you examined the history of the A. and B. texts honestly, you would have the answer to your own question. But you won't because your organization tells you not to, which to me is NUTS! That's why I left the Catholic church; I don't need any Pope or bishop or father to do my thinking. I can think for myself, I don't need anyone to make decisions for me, or how to understand what is. Some people do because they're weak. There's nothing wrong with being weak, but the weak should not be teaching. Why? Because they are weak!

Many others would not consider us "weak." JWs think for themselves. We don't take anybody's word for anything until we can research it for ourselves,"

That's true, But, you have no idea of the education of those who claimed to be Hebrew and Greek scholars who translated and put together the N.W.T. Also tell us why the Witnesses now deny Taze Russel as the founder of your organization yet claim to be several hundred years old?

It is obvious what the translators of the NWT have in line with the Hebrew and Greek texts. If you have really checked out the NWT and its footnotes you could see how intricate the renderings are. They really know their stuff. Look at a study Bible, the large Bible. Don't cast aspersions if you haven't really studied the NWT Bible.

You don't understand the reasoning behind the fact that we don't call Charles Taze Russell the "founder" of our organization? The founder of our organization is Jesus Christ himself, as we hold him as our exemplar in all things truly Christian, even before the Dark Ages when the Catholic Church was controlling everything. We just continue to teach what Jesus taught and do things the way his direct followers did things. Charles Russell merely re-invigorated the organization in 1879 when he had questions about what the churches were teaching. They didn't teach about the Ransom---the major teaching of Christ's true followers from the beginning. He was correct in bringing up that subject. He faced other doctrines that the churches were teaching as fact when the Bible didn't teach them. The Scripture says that indeed, in the end the knowledge of the truth would be understood. JWs are spreading that knowledge. (Daniel 12: 4,9)

[placebofactor]

[Replying to The Third Eye in post #2]

You asked, "Are the Jews done with God?"

The Orthodox Jews remain in touch with Jehovah and the law but reject the Son, They believe Jesus existed, but only as a man. Hmm, that's exactly what the Jehovah's Witnesses believe, imagine that.

That is a lie. We do not think that Jesus was only a man. He is the Son of God who came down from heaven, carried out his Father's instructions, then was resurrected back to life and is now in heaven at the right hand of God. He is NOW our King who is involved in organizing the preaching of the Kingdom. (Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:18-20)

What do you mean by the Son of God? And what's the difference between that and Jesus being called the Son of man? You teach that the devil is a son of God, and men are sons of God, so how in your mind does Jesus differ? What form is Jesus now in? If he came down from heaven what would Jesus look like?

In Acts 3:13, the N.W.T. changed Son to Servant.

In Acts 8:37, the N.W.T. left the numbers 37-38 in, but removed the whole verse (its blank) that contains the following, "And he (the eunuch) answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."

In Acts 13:33, the N.W.T. changed "Son" to "son," lowercase.

In Romans 1:3, the N.W.T. put Son in, but left out, Jesus Christ our Lord," And I can go on and on. I bet they never left out or changed the name Jehovah in any verse. But when it comes to Jesus, different ball game.

Revelation 22:18-19, "If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life,"

Your disagreements are sour grapes. JWs believe that Jesus is the only-begotten Son of God who was sent to the earth by his Father to save mankind from sin and death. Others can be "sons" of God but not in the same sense as Jesus Christ. Any changes in verses are those that do not destroy the meaning of the verses.

Acts 3:13 is translated the same as the NWT by other versions: The NASB says "servant" instead of "Son" as well, so don't come down on the NWT as if it was the only one.

Acts 8:37 in the NWT shows in a footnote that some manuscripts include "'If you believe with all your heart, it is permissible.' In reply he said: I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." The NWT left it out because certain early manuscripts had not included it. (Leaving it out does not mean that JWs don't agree with it. We certainly do.) The NASB says in a footnote that "early mss do not contain this verse."

Romans 1:3: The words "Jesus Christ our Lord" is absent from the NASB as well as the NWT. It's not just the NWT that has these various differences. The NIV leaves out those words also. So does the Revised Standard Version. I could go on and on.

There is no different ball game when it comes to Jesus. He is shown to be the Son of God, our Lord and King, throughout the NWT.

Jesus is now in the same form as that of God---Spirit. (John 4:24) He is at the right hand of God, so how could he be a physical Person? Flesh cannot inherit the kingdom of God (I Corinth. 15:50). As it says in the Scripture: "'The first man Adam became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (I Corinthians 15:45, The New American Bible; King James Version; American Standard Version and many more.) If he came down from heaven he would materialize a body that looks like a well-dressed and -groomed man, the way men look at our Kingdom Halls.

Why are you so intent on going after the NWT? What do you get out of it? It has not changed the meanings of anything, and follows what innumerable other versions have done.

Why? Because of the history of the manuscripts the N.W.T. uses, as do most every modern-day Bible as their foundation text. If you examined the history of the A. and B. texts honestly, you would have the answer to your own question. But you won't because your organization tells you not to, which to me is NUTS! That's why I left the Catholic church; I don't need any Pope or bishop or father to do my thinking. I can think for myself, I don't need anyone to make decisions for me, or how to understand what is. Some people do because they're weak. There's nothing wrong with being weak, but the weak should not be teaching. Why? Because they are weak!

Many others would not consider us "weak." JWs think for themselves. We don't take anybody's word for anything until we can research it for ourselves,"

That's true, But, you have no idea of the education of those who claimed to be Hebrew and Greek scholars who translated and put together the N.W.T. Also tell us why the Witnesses now deny Taze Russel as the founder of your organization yet claim to be several hundred years old?

It is obvious what the translators of the NWT have in line with the Hebrew and Greek texts. If you have really checked out the NWT and its footnotes you could see how intricate the renderings are. They really know their stuff. Look at a study Bible, the large Bible. Don't cast aspersions if you haven't really studied the NWT Bible.

You don't understand the reasoning behind the fact that we don't call Charles Taze Russell the "founder" of our organization? The founder of our organization is Jesus Christ himself, as we hold him as our exemplar in all things truly Christian, even before the Dark Ages when the Catholic Church was controlling everything. We just continue to teach what Jesus taught and do things the way his direct followers did things. Charles Russell merely re-invigorated the organization in 1879 when he had questions about what the churches were teaching. They didn't teach about the Ransom---the major teaching of Christ's true followers from the beginning. He was correct in bringing up that subject. He faced other doctrines that the churches were teaching as fact when the Bible didn't teach them. The Scripture says that indeed, in the end the knowledge of the truth would be understood. JWs are spreading that knowledge. (Daniel 12: 4,9)

Your comments are so far in left field that I'm not going to waste my time responding to your post. I will leave you with this, your organization was duped by Tazz Russel right up to World War 1, and a few years passed when his end-time pyramidology prophecies began to fall apart. He scammed his own followers in what is known as the "Penny wheat deal." He was thrown out of Canada for perjury, divorced, etc. etc. etc. He is the foundation of the Jehovah's Witnesses whether you believe it or not, or whether you like it or not. And it's for these reasons and more I never joined. And for kicks, let's include the most corrupt Bible on the market, the N.W.T.