A child of the devil:
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.
A child of God:
1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?
Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?
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Re: Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?
Post #11How would you know?Checkpoint wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:19 pmQuite so.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:33 pm If you are a child of God then you will have the traits and instincts of God passed on to you
from birth. That will more than verify that you are born of God by that to which you live in the Spirit.
However, those born from above. as with hose born from below, need time, nourishment, and experience, so they can grow to maturity and truly manifest the traits and instincts of God their Father.
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Post #12That is why they call Him God don't you think?Checkpoint wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:01 pmI suggest that God is the ultimate authority, and that He gives some to whom or to what He chooses.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:13 pmNo I do not consider him anything other than he is him.bjs1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:00 pmjimtatertayte wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:38 am A child of the devil:
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.
A child of God:
1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?
I notice that you also quote the Apostle John, so I assume that you consider him an authority.
I hold the Spirit of God as the one and only authority.
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Post #13If God were your Father we would not be having this conversation.bjs1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:07 pmYes, if you become my father then you can give me the right to be my child. You are not my father. I am a child of the living God, by His will and purpose and power. You have neither the authority nor the power to claim otherwise.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:13 pm
If I become your Father I give you the right to be my child.
What else would the offspring of God be called? The children of the devil?
Why would anything have to testify to a child of God they are child of God?
Did your mother have to testify to you that you were her child?
No I do not consider him anything other than he is him.
I hold the Spirit of God as the one and only authority.
There are many people in the world and in history. Some might be called the children of God, and others might be called the children of the devil. My interest in the children of God. I will leave the children of the Devil to their own family matters.
Of course my mother told me that she is my mother. Did your mother never tell you that she is/was your mother? That would be super sad if she did not tell you.
You may continue to call it a lie all you wish, but it is the Spirit of God, at work through the Holy Scriptures, who declares that we are children of God.
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Re: Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?
Post #14I wish it were a blessing
every time I have been on earth a devil
told me that God was their Father.
I have even had sodomites
and lesbians tell me that God was their Father.
I have even been told by them
who profess to be children of God
that everyone was a child of God.
I have heard it all.
every time I have been on earth a devil
told me that God was their Father.
I have even had sodomites
and lesbians tell me that God was their Father.
I have even been told by them
who profess to be children of God
that everyone was a child of God.
I have heard it all.
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Post #15The Spirit of God is God. And you say to me that God is your Father?Checkpoint wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:01 pmI suggest that God is the ultimate authority, and that He gives some to whom or to what He chooses.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:13 pmNo I do not consider him anything other than he is him.bjs1 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:00 pmjimtatertayte wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:38 am A child of the devil:
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.
A child of God:
1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?
I notice that you also quote the Apostle John, so I assume that you consider him an authority.
I hold the Spirit of God as the one and only authority.
And you know it not?
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Re: Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?
Post #16You tell me ...
"You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens" - JESUS CHRIST
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Re: Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?
Post #17Our CREATOR did.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:38 am A child of the devil:
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.
A child of God:
1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?
Amos 4
13: For lo, he who forms the mountains, and creates the wind, and declares to man what is his thought;
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Deuteronomy 32
39: "`See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand.
Exodus 4:
10: But Moses said to the LORD, "Oh, my Lord, I am not eloquent, either heretofore or since thou hast spoken to thy servant; but I am slow of speech and of tongue."
11: Then the LORD said to him, "Who has made man's mouth? Who makes him dumb, or deaf, or seeing, or blind? Is it not I, the LORD?
12: Now therefore go, and I will be with your mouth and teach you what you shall speak."
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Post #18There shall be a people
who are coming to earth soon.
They shall walk before God
without sin and blemish or any iniquity.
In the Glory of God to the Glory of God.
They shall worship in Spirit and Truth
and walk in His Light.
They shall obey in Spirit and Truth
and be a witness to the Spirit of Truth.
They shall dwell in all the beauty of Holiness
unto the Holiness of God.
They shall bless and love the Lord
with all they do with all their hearts
with all their minds and with all their souls
with all their strength.
They shall fulfill
the Commandments of Jesus the Christ.
They are sent by God to destroy the works
of the children of the devil.
They shall prevail and overcome the temptations
of the world and slay the children of the devil
with the Righteousness of their lives
and the Spirit of their God.
They shall open the door for the return
of the King of Kings from heaven to earth.
They and they alone shall have the blessing of the Lord.
And the angels of God rejoice to see their day.
They are The Children of The God Most High.
who are coming to earth soon.
They shall walk before God
without sin and blemish or any iniquity.
In the Glory of God to the Glory of God.
They shall worship in Spirit and Truth
and walk in His Light.
They shall obey in Spirit and Truth
and be a witness to the Spirit of Truth.
They shall dwell in all the beauty of Holiness
unto the Holiness of God.
They shall bless and love the Lord
with all they do with all their hearts
with all their minds and with all their souls
with all their strength.
They shall fulfill
the Commandments of Jesus the Christ.
They are sent by God to destroy the works
of the children of the devil.
They shall prevail and overcome the temptations
of the world and slay the children of the devil
with the Righteousness of their lives
and the Spirit of their God.
They shall open the door for the return
of the King of Kings from heaven to earth.
They and they alone shall have the blessing of the Lord.
And the angels of God rejoice to see their day.
They are The Children of The God Most High.
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Post #19Oh?jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:09 am There shall be a people
who are coming to earth soon.
They shall walk before God
without sin and blemish or any iniquity.
In the Glory of God to the Glory of God.
They shall worship in Spirit and Truth
and walk in His Light.
They shall obey in Spirit and Truth
and be a witness to the Spirit of Truth.
They shall dwell in all the beauty of Holiness
unto the Holiness of God.
They shall bless and love the Lord
with all they do with all their hearts
with all their minds and with all their souls
with all their strength.
They shall fulfill
the Commandments of Jesus the Christ.
They are sent by God to destroy the works
of the children of the devil.
They shall prevail and overcome the temptations
of the world and slay the children of the devil
with the Righteousness of their lives
and the Spirit of their God.
They shall open the door for the return
of the King of Kings from heaven to earth.
They and they alone shall have the blessing of the Lord.
And the angels of God rejoice to see their day.
They are The Children of The God Most High.
Who told you all that?
Who are those "people who are coming to earth soon"?
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Post #20They are The Children of The God Most High.Checkpoint wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:44 amOh?jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:09 am There shall be a people
who are coming to earth soon.
They shall walk before God
without sin and blemish or any iniquity.
In the Glory of God to the Glory of God.
They shall worship in Spirit and Truth
and walk in His Light.
They shall obey in Spirit and Truth
and be a witness to the Spirit of Truth.
They shall dwell in all the beauty of Holiness
unto the Holiness of God.
They shall bless and love the Lord
with all they do with all their hearts
with all their minds and with all their souls
with all their strength.
They shall fulfill
the Commandments of Jesus the Christ.
They are sent by God to destroy the works
of the children of the devil.
They shall prevail and overcome the temptations
of the world and slay the children of the devil
with the Righteousness of their lives
and the Spirit of their God.
They shall open the door for the return
of the King of Kings from heaven to earth.
They and they alone shall have the blessing of the Lord.
And the angels of God rejoice to see their day.
They are The Children of The God Most High.
Who told you all that?
Who are those "people who are coming to earth soon"?
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.
And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.