Define "evidence"
Ill give a start.
Evidence is anything used to support a claim.
Bonus question.
What is the defining factors of "no evidence" for something?
Does your definition of evidence, and no evidence, hold up to all things objectively?
Define "Evidence"
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Re: Define "Evidence"
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Evidence is not "anything used to support a claim". Evidence is only that which actually does support a claim.Evidence is anything used to support a claim.
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Re: Define "Evidence"
Post #3How would you know if some evidence actually supports a claim?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:25 pm [Replying to Shem Yoshi in post #1
Evidence is not "anything used to support a claim". Evidence is only that which actually does support a claim.Evidence is anything used to support a claim.
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Re: Define "Evidence"
Post #4Snow on the ground first thing in the morning is evidence that it snowed during the night. Your dog having four legs isn't.Shem Yoshi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:43 pmHow would you know if some evidence actually supports a claim?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:25 pm [Replying to Shem Yoshi in post #1
Evidence is not "anything used to support a claim". Evidence is only that which actually does support a claim.Evidence is anything used to support a claim.
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Post #5you are pointing out a logical absurdity, but sometimes things aren't that clear.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:51 pmSnow on the ground first thing in the morning is evidence that it snowed during the night. Your dog having four legs isn't.Shem Yoshi wrote: ↑Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:43 pmHow would you know if some evidence actually supports a claim?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:25 pm [Replying to Shem Yoshi in post #1
Evidence is not "anything used to support a claim". Evidence is only that which actually does support a claim.Evidence is anything used to support a claim.
Are you saying there is never error in evidence leading to truth? And i want your honest opinion. think about it, this is not a debate thread it is a discussion thread.
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Re: Define "Evidence"
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Are you saying that we can just ignore errors which don't lead to the "truth" we want to find? I want your honest opinion too.Are you saying there is never error in evidence leading to truth? And i want your honest opinion.
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Post #7Can evidence lead us to things that are not true. I personally dont believe we can know what truth is. We will never know the truth. So evidence might lead us somewhere but we will never fully grasp the wholeness of truth.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 7:53 am [Replying to Shem Yoshi in post #5
Are you saying that we can just ignore errors which don't lead to the "truth" we want to find? I want your honest opinion too.Are you saying there is never error in evidence leading to truth? And i want your honest opinion.
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Re: Define "Evidence"
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That's why evidence has to be examined----first to make sure that it is evidence, then to determine how reliable that evidence is.Can evidence lead us to things that are not true. I personally dont believe we can know what truth is. We will never know the truth. So evidence might lead us somewhere but we will never fully grasp the wholeness of truth.
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Re: Define "Evidence"
Post #9But anyone rationality can fail them.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:29 pm [Replying to Shem Yoshi in post #7
That's why evidence has to be examined----first to make sure that it is evidence, then to determine how reliable that evidence is.Can evidence lead us to things that are not true. I personally dont believe we can know what truth is. We will never know the truth. So evidence might lead us somewhere but we will never fully grasp the wholeness of truth.
How do you know what is evidence, and what is not?
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Re: Define "Evidence"
Post #10Observable conditions or events which lead to likely conclusions about their origins are evidence of those origins.Shem Yoshi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 3:18 pmBut anyone rationality can fail them.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Mon Dec 26, 2022 1:29 pm [Replying to Shem Yoshi in post #7
That's why evidence has to be examined----first to make sure that it is evidence, then to determine how reliable that evidence is.Can evidence lead us to things that are not true. I personally dont believe we can know what truth is. We will never know the truth. So evidence might lead us somewhere but we will never fully grasp the wholeness of truth.
How do you know what is evidence, and what is not?
