LittlePig wrote:
And I can't think of any reason you would make the comment you made if you weren't suggesting that the find favored your view of a worldwide flood.
Umm, because simply it's a better explanation? And the fact that it's more consistent with the Flood Model doesn't hurt either.
Except, of course, it isn't consistent with a 'Flood Model', since it isn't mixed in with any animals that we know are modern.
Before the rabbits multiply beyond control, I'll just leave my proposal as a rapid burial. Nothing more than that. For this thread, it can just be a giant mud slide.
Since it's still spring time, let's let the rabbits multiply.
Questions for Debate:
1) Does a Global Flood Model provide the best explanation for our current fossil record, geologic formations, and biodiversity?
2) What real science is used in Global Flood Models?
3) What predictions does a Global Flood Model make?
4) Have Global Flood Models ever been subjected to a formal peer review process?
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No. It's not just me that says so. A wealth of accumulated scientific knowledge says so. To believe that those structures are the product of a giant flood is to deny reality. But then that is a prerequisite for creationism.
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To add to post 1245 by brunumb, the reason those pictures are actually proof of erosion is because they all contain many distinct layers or rocks. It is hydraulically impossible to create dozens or hundreds of sedimentary layers from just one flood event. Since flood advocates always try to claim that all sediment layers come from Noah's flood, and that can't be, the only way for such layers to be laid one upon another in huge areas is long time periods and many deposit events.
What's particularly comical is that flood fans point to those geographic features as evidence for a worldwide flood when they are made up of sedimentary layers that were supposedly created by a worldwide flood. The flood eroded things that didn't exist yet? This blatant contradiction of their own making is entertaining to say the least...
People who dismiss the idea of a great flood need to rethink their view.
There is plenty of scientific evidence that half (1/2) of the earth was covered in ice about 650 million years ago. Since then the ice has been melting to the point where we have only the Antarctic remaining.
Still, 50%+/- of the earth was covered in ice some 650 million years ago------
A study by NASA and university researchers, published in the June 14, 2013 issue of Science, found however that ocean waters melting the undersides of Antarctic ice shelves are responsible for most of the continent's ice shelf mass loss.[2]
Ice shelf - Wikipedia
The Snowball Earth hypothesis proposes that during one or more of Earth's icehouse climates, Earth's surface became entirely or nearly entirely frozen at least once, sometime earlier than 650 Mya(million years ago). Proponents of the hypothesis argue that it best explains sedimentary deposits generally regarded as of glacial origin at tropicalpalaeolatitudes and other enigmatic features in the geological record. Opponents of the hypothesis contest the implications of the geological evidence for global glaciation and the geophysical feasibility of an ice- or slush-covered ocean[3][4]
Snowball Earth - Wikipedia
"Snowball Earth" Confirmed: Ice Covered EquatorEarth's now steamy Equator was covered with ice 716 million years ago, according to a new study.
Strange fossil may be rare insect preserved in gemstone.
The finding appears to add solid evidence to the theory of an ancient "snowball Earth."
"Snowball Earth" Confirmed: Ice Covered Equator
In the beginning, planet Earth was a very inhospitable place with no oxygen and only single-celled bacteria as inhabitants. According to a new study, the oxygen content in the air began to increase about 2.4 billion years ago, at the same time as the global glaciation and when all continents were gathered in a single huge landmass, or supercontinent. How to explain the exact connection between these events, however, is a question that baffles the researchers.
Oxygen content increased when Earth was covered in ice
A Brief History of Ice Ages and Warming
Global warming started long before the "Industrial Revolution" and the invention of the internal combustion engine. Global warming began 18,000 years ago as the earth started warming its way out of the Pleistocene Ice Age-- a time when much of North America, Europe, and Asia lay buried beneath great sheets of glacial ice.
Global Warming:A Chilling Perspective
As the ice sheet melted the runoff looked like a flood, so they called it a “GREAT FLOOD�
There is ample proof of a great flood and now it is time to flip the argument. It is time for the doubters to prove there wasn’t a flood.
Deniers of what? What you are describing in this post has nothing whatsoever to do with the biblical "Noah's flood", which is normally the event people refer to when they deny the "great flood" described in the bible.
Noah's flood supposedly happened about 4,300 years ago, and you're referencing "snowball earth" some 700 million years ago, long before anything resembling a human being existed on this planet. So you are obviously not referring to the bibilical Noah's flood.
So what "great flood" are you referring to? What group of people are denying the occurrence of some kind of massive flood 700 millions years ago, when volcanic activity broke up the ice of "snowball earth" and no humans existed? Generally, people who take the bible and its various myths literally don't even believe the Earth existed 700 million years ago, or even 1 million years ago.
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DrNoGods wrote:
Deniers of what? What you are describing in this post has nothing whatsoever to do with the biblical "Noah's flood", which is normally the event people refer to when they deny the "great flood" described in the bible.
The water needed to create this flood had to come from somewhere and the melting ice caps provides the needed water.
The water needed to create this flood had to come from somewhere and the melting ice caps provides the needed water.
"this flood" ... which flood are you talking about? It can't be Noah's flood as that was hundreds of millions of years after the event you are referencing. I've never heard of a group of "flood deniers" that weren't referencing the biblical flood myth (ie. Noah's flood). So my question was which flood are you referring to since it obviously can't be Noah's flood.
BTW, if all the ice caps melted it would not create near enough water to cause an event like Noah's flood where water supposedly covered the entire earth several meters above the highest mountains ... just 4,300 years ago. If all the ice covering Antarctica, Greenland, and in mountain glaciers around the world were to melt, sea level would rise about 70 meters (230 feet).
The continents were arranged very differently 700 million years ago, but since you are not referring to Noah's flood ... what flood ARE you talking about?
In human affairs the sources of success are ever to be found in the fountains of quick resolve and swift stroke; and it seems to be a law, inflexible and inexorable, that he who will not risk cannot win. John Paul Jones, 1779
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Deniers of what? What you are describing in this post has nothing whatsoever to do with the biblical "Noah's flood", which is normally the event people refer to when they deny the "great flood" described in the bible.
Noah's flood supposedly happened about 4,300 years ago, and you're referencing "snowball earth" some 700 million years ago, long before anything resembling a human being existed on this planet. So you are obviously not referring to the Biblical Noah's flood.
So what "great flood" are you referring to? What group of people are denying the occurrence of some kind of massive flood 700 millions years ago, when volcanic activity broke up the ice of "snowball earth" and no humans existed? Generally, people who take the bible and its various myths literally don't even believe the Earth existed 700 million years ago, or even 1 million years ago.
Wait!!!! stop the presses Dr.NoGod's and I agree on something about what the Bible says. This is truly a momentous occasion.
Although I did capitalize Biblical for you. You seemed to forget that.
