I work with a German and he is terribly self-conscious about Nazi-ism. He is essentially persecuted for the most popularized event in what was not human genocide, as the victims, survived, as opposed to successful events, like Kurds, and Palestine, Native Americans, etc..
He frequently points out that the majority of Germany was under their own terror, fighting a war they didn't want, conducting atrocities, the majority was unaware of, or at least had their own necks to worry about during this crisis.
Nazi's at their peak, only controlled 14% of the German population.
There are incredibly few who participated or endorsed the vile practices of the regime, and still fewer who advocate genocide.
For how long must we keep stereotyping Germans by immediately associating them with Nazi's?
Should European's immediately associate the US with the SUCCESSFUL genocide of it's native peoples?
Should China immediately associate it's neighbor, the Russian provinces with their SUCCESSFUL elimination of another 4 million Jewish AND 40 million of the rest of us?
When does it end? How long do we vilify Nebuchadnezzar and Ptolemy II?
When do you stop the stereotype and the hatred?
When is it time to stop hating?
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Re: When is it time to stop hating?
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In my part of the world, people have long stopped associating Germans with Nazis.
In my part of the world, people have long stopped associating Germans with Nazis.
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Threefold times, unhelpful. Which part of the world, why, how does this answer the OP?
Threefold times, unhelpful. Which part of the world, why, how does this answer the OP?
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I was unaware Germans are still persecuted for Nazis. Always thought that was a niche form of bigotry.
I was unaware Germans are still persecuted for Nazis. Always thought that was a niche form of bigotry.
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Post #5Alright, let me answer the questions more thoroughly:
WW2 was 70+ years ago. 2 generations should be more than long enough. By that calculation, we no longer stereotype Germans by immediately associating them with Nazi's.For how long must we keep stereotyping Germans by immediately associating them with Nazi's?
No, that was long ago too. The on going dispute with native peoples on the other hand... then again, that's still no reason to paint all US citizens with the same brush.Should European's immediately associate the US with the SUCCESSFUL genocide of it's native peoples?
No.Should China immediately associate it's neighbor, the Russian provinces with their SUCCESSFUL elimination of another 4 million Jewish AND 40 million of the rest of us?
About 30 years ago.When does it end?
Indefinitely. It's quite a huge difference between vilifying a group by association, and vilifying a person for what he has done.How long do we vilify Nebuchadnezzar and Ptolemy II?
Oh there is always new things to hate.When do you stop the stereotype and the hatred?
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Re: When is it time to stop hating?
Post #6[Replying to post 1 by Willum]
Jesus preached we must love our neighbour. Maybe the hate will stop when everyone does that...
Jesus preached we must love our neighbour. Maybe the hate will stop when everyone does that...
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2000 years? There is failure in his teaching somewhere.
I expect better of a demi-god.
2000 years? There is failure in his teaching somewhere.
I expect better of a demi-god.
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Post #8Sorry, what is your part of the world?Bust Nak wrote: [Replying to post 1 by Willum]
In my part of the world, people have long stopped associating Germans with Nazis.
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Post #10[Replying to post 5 by Bust Nak]
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That is encouraging, but US airways history channels are plagued (alright ~two cable channels) with all-German hate several times a day.
So the point was more to generate discussion, you've kind of cut the Gordian knot by being right.
Ah, well.
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That is encouraging, but US airways history channels are plagued (alright ~two cable channels) with all-German hate several times a day.
So the point was more to generate discussion, you've kind of cut the Gordian knot by being right.
Ah, well.