Jesus Rifles for Military in ME?

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Jesus Rifles for Military in ME?

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Just when you thought the bonehead references to Iraqi "crusade" and "Devil in Fallujah" have ended, Pentagon proves us wrong.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7663
Anti-Semitic email, threats sent to Mikey Weinstein, founder of Military Religious Freedom Foundation
Rifle sight contractor Trijicon reportedly describes group as 'not Christian'; MRFF responds with threat of possible legal action...
And what they will never tell you on Fox "News," and probably not even on CNN or MSNBC, etc., is contained in the following three emails sent to Mikey Weinstein of the Nobel Prize-nominated Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), following an ABC News exposé last week on the bible verses that are encoded on the rifle scopes made by Trijicon, Inc., and used by our military serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The first disturbing email below is from a U.S. soldier who happens to be a Caucasian Muslim, horrified by the dangers of having such verse referenced on military equipment used in the Middle East, particularly in the event of capture. The soldier shares an appalling alleged account of his superior officer's description of the weapon as the "the Fire Arm of Jesus Christ.". . . . .MORE
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They've since backed off, but it is a good reminder that we should remain vigilant against attempts to inject religion into such a situation.
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My next scope for my AR-15 will be a Trijicon.

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East of Eden wrote:My next scope for my AR-15 will be a Trijicon.

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Will you be using it because it may have the references, or because you think the references will provide better aiming?

And really, an AR-15? No real stopping power, especially if the deer is wearing an armored vest.
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joeyknuccione wrote: Will you be using it because it may have the references, or because you think the references will provide better aiming?
All things being equal, I like to support companies whose philosophy I agree with. That being said, it's probably a good idea to not have the verses on the US military equipment, although I wouldn't call it an establishment of religion.
And really, an AR-15? No real stopping power, especially if the deer is wearing an armored vest.
I use it for plinking and an occasional prairie dog or coyote. My 16-year old loves shooting it. It would also come in handy if God forbid we ever had a complete societal breakdown.

Rather than 'assault weapon' I prefer to call it a 'homeland defense weapon'.
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It always gives me a chuckle when "gun-huggers" think that their weapons will protect them in a societal breakdown. If you have food and people are starving, do you think the "man's home is his castle" strategy will prevent them from taking it? Thanks to the crazy proliferation of firearms, just about everyone will be able to get one. They will have the advantage of surprise, and if they don't nail you whenever you have to leave your home they just surround your "castle" and toss in a few gasoline bombs. How's your guns and Jesus gonna help you then? The only safety will be in cooperation and community.

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DeBunkem wrote:It always gives me a chuckle when "gun-huggers" think that their weapons will protect them in a societal breakdown. If you have food and people are starving, do you think the "man's home is his castle" strategy will prevent them from taking it?
If I have an AR-15 and you don't, which of us will be more likely to be a victim? (Hint: Sometimes the obvious answer is the right one.) They may be criminals but they aren't stupid. Rather than calling the police when I'm attacked so they can show up a half hour later and draw a chalk line around my body, I'd just as soon eliminate the middleman.
Thanks to the crazy proliferation of firearms, just about everyone will be able to get one.
AKA The Second Amendment.
They will have the advantage of surprise, and if they don't nail you whenever you have to leave your home they just surround your "castle" and toss in a few gasoline bombs. How's your guns and Jesus gonna help you then?
There is no question that armed citizens are more successful in resisting crime than the unarmed sheeple. Armed citizens stop about as many crimes as the police to.
The only safety will be in cooperation and community.
I'm sure the criminal element are trembling in their boots over that one. :lol:
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It goes a little deeper then that...

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If you look at the Congressional Testimony of some contractors of the company formerly known as Blackwater - they testifies that the founder is a zealous Christian who believes that the war in Iraq is a Christian battle to wipe out Islam...

But then again, if you read some of the quotes from George W. Bush, it is easy to see where such sentiment could have been approved of.
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East of Eden wrote:
DeBunkem wrote:It always gives me a chuckle when "gun-huggers" think that their weapons will protect them in a societal breakdown. If you have food and people are starving, do you think the "man's home is his castle" strategy will prevent them from taking it?
If I have an AR-15 and you don't, which of us will be more likely to be a victim? (Hint: Sometimes the obvious answer is the right one.) They may be criminals but they aren't stupid. Rather than calling the police when I'm attacked so they can show up a half hour later and draw a chalk line around my body, I'd just as soon eliminate the middleman.
Thanks to the crazy proliferation of firearms, just about everyone will be able to get one.
AKA The Second Amendment.
They will have the advantage of surprise, and if they don't nail you whenever you have to leave your home they just surround your "castle" and toss in a few gasoline bombs. How's your guns and Jesus gonna help you then?
There is no question that armed citizens are more successful in resisting crime than the unarmed sheeple. Armed citizens stop about as many crimes as the police to.
The only safety will be in cooperation and community.
I'm sure the criminal element are trembling in their boots over that one. :lol:
What is laughable about these comments, is the ignorance of the fact the you are the primary source of criminals guns.... Its not like they are buying them at Cabellas when they can just steal them from your house. (And no, the average criminal is not going to wait until you are home from work to try to break in...)

Not to mention the fact that guns in homes bought for protection are more likely to be used against the people who live in the home, then against a criminal committing a crime.
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Many in the UK would argue that we had no business invading Iraq in the first place. As for linking firearms to Jesus, how sick is that?
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