Do You Think Obama Deserve Re Election?
If Yes: Please cite significant things he has done that have benefited this country and it's citizens.
If No: Please cite significant things he has or hasn't done that would lead you to vote for another candidate.
Does Obama Deserve To Be Re-Elected?
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Post #71No and I will tell you why. First, I cant vote for someone who is pro abortion. Second, Obama has helped overturn don't ask, dont tell thereby allowing sodomited to serve openly in the military. I cannot support that. Third, Obama does not stand firm on the word of God. He reallyt doesnt stand for much of anything. I pray he will be defeated in 2012 and we can have a God fearing Christian in the white house once again.WinePusher wrote:Do You Think Obama Deserve Re Election?
If Yes: Please cite significant things he has done that have benefited this country and it's citizens.
If No: Please cite significant things he has or hasn't done that would lead you to vote for another candidate.
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Post #72Obama is a RINO = Religious In Name Onlyhis_word_is_truth wrote:No and I will tell you why. First, I cant vote for someone who is pro abortion. Second, Obama has helped overturn don't ask, dont tell thereby allowing sodomited to serve openly in the military. I cannot support that. Third, Obama does not stand firm on the word of God. He reallyt doesnt stand for much of anything. I pray he will be defeated in 2012 and we can have a God fearing Christian in the white house once again.WinePusher wrote:Do You Think Obama Deserve Re Election?
If Yes: Please cite significant things he has done that have benefited this country and it's citizens.
If No: Please cite significant things he has or hasn't done that would lead you to vote for another candidate.
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Post #73What are the qualifications for being religious? Believing what you do and acting how you act?East of Eden wrote:Obama is a RINO = Religious In Name Onlyhis_word_is_truth wrote:No and I will tell you why. First, I cant vote for someone who is pro abortion. Second, Obama has helped overturn don't ask, dont tell thereby allowing sodomited to serve openly in the military. I cannot support that. Third, Obama does not stand firm on the word of God. He reallyt doesnt stand for much of anything. I pray he will be defeated in 2012 and we can have a God fearing Christian in the white house once again.WinePusher wrote:Do You Think Obama Deserve Re Election?
If Yes: Please cite significant things he has done that have benefited this country and it's citizens.
If No: Please cite significant things he has or hasn't done that would lead you to vote for another candidate.
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How is it relevant to Obama's qualifications as president whether or not he goes to church, or how often?
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Post #75Going to church would be a good start.nygreenguy wrote:What are the qualifications for being religious? Believing what you do and acting how you act?East of Eden wrote:Obama is a RINO = Religious In Name Onlyhis_word_is_truth wrote:No and I will tell you why. First, I cant vote for someone who is pro abortion. Second, Obama has helped overturn don't ask, dont tell thereby allowing sodomited to serve openly in the military. I cannot support that. Third, Obama does not stand firm on the word of God. He reallyt doesnt stand for much of anything. I pray he will be defeated in 2012 and we can have a God fearing Christian in the white house once again.WinePusher wrote:Do You Think Obama Deserve Re Election?
If Yes: Please cite significant things he has done that have benefited this country and it's citizens.
If No: Please cite significant things he has or hasn't done that would lead you to vote for another candidate.
Obama administration 'anti-religious,' Gingrich says
By: CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
Gingrich says the Obama administration is 'anti religious'.
(CNN) - Newt Gingrich said Tuesday the Obama administration is "intensely secular" and "anti-religious," the former House Speaker's second hard-hitting criticism of the new administration this week.
In an interview with FOX News, Gingrich said he strongly disagreed with Obama's choice of Harry Knox - an outspoken activist for gay rights - to the White House advisory council on faith-based initiatives.
"I think their goal is to have a very secular America in which government dominates everything," he said. "Why wouldn't you put an anti-religious, left-wing zealot on a faith-based group? It's a perfect pattern for this administration."
Since 2005, Knox has served as the director of the Human Rights Campaign, a national organization that advocates on behalf of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender individuals. He is also a former Methodist pastor.
Obama formally named Knox to the 25-member advisory council on Monday, a move that has not sat well with some Christian conservatives. The conservative Catholic League called him "unfit to serve," especially taking issue with Knox's recent comment characterizing Pope Benedict XVI as a "discredited leader" because of his opposition to gay marriage.
In a statement released earlier this week, Knox said, "The lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community is eager to help the administration achieve its goals around economic recovery and fighting poverty; fatherhood and healthy families; inter-religious dialogue; care for the environment; and global poverty, health and development."
But Gingrich said the Knox appointment, along with some other moves, proves the administration is trying to "go down in history as a consistently anti-religious, secular group of people who are consciously trying to drive things out."
Two days ago, Gingrich told Politico former Vice President Dick Cheney was "clearly right" when he asserted the Obama administration's national security policies have left the country more vulnerable to a terrorist attack.
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"We are fooling ourselves if we imagine that we can ever make the authentic Gospel popular......it is too simple in an age of rationalism; too narrow in an age of pluralism; too humiliating in an age of self-confidence; too demanding in an age of permissiveness; and too unpatriotic in an age of blind nationalism." Rev. John R.W. Stott, CBE
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Post #76Ok, why and how do you know he doesnt? Did Bush go to church, did you consider him religious?East of Eden wrote:Going to church would be a good start.nygreenguy wrote:What are the qualifications for being religious? Believing what you do and acting how you act?East of Eden wrote:Obama is a RINO = Religious In Name Onlyhis_word_is_truth wrote:No and I will tell you why. First, I cant vote for someone who is pro abortion. Second, Obama has helped overturn don't ask, dont tell thereby allowing sodomited to serve openly in the military. I cannot support that. Third, Obama does not stand firm on the word of God. He reallyt doesnt stand for much of anything. I pray he will be defeated in 2012 and we can have a God fearing Christian in the white house once again.WinePusher wrote:Do You Think Obama Deserve Re Election?
If Yes: Please cite significant things he has done that have benefited this country and it's citizens.
If No: Please cite significant things he has or hasn't done that would lead you to vote for another candidate.
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Post #77Who has obeyed Jesus' teaching on marriage and divorce, Gingrich or Obama?East of Eden wrote:Going to church would be a good start.nygreenguy wrote:What are the qualifications for being religious? Believing what you do and acting how you act?East of Eden wrote:Obama is a RINO = Religious In Name Onlyhis_word_is_truth wrote:No and I will tell you why. First, I cant vote for someone who is pro abortion. Second, Obama has helped overturn don't ask, dont tell thereby allowing sodomited to serve openly in the military. I cannot support that. Third, Obama does not stand firm on the word of God. He reallyt doesnt stand for much of anything. I pray he will be defeated in 2012 and we can have a God fearing Christian in the white house once again.WinePusher wrote:Do You Think Obama Deserve Re Election?
If Yes: Please cite significant things he has done that have benefited this country and it's citizens.
If No: Please cite significant things he has or hasn't done that would lead you to vote for another candidate.
Obama administration 'anti-religious,' Gingrich says
By: CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
Gingrich says the Obama administration is 'anti religious'.
(CNN) - Newt Gingrich said Tuesday the Obama administration is "intensely secular" and "anti-religious," the former House Speaker's second hard-hitting criticism of the new administration this week.
In an interview with FOX News, Gingrich said he strongly disagreed with Obama's choice of Harry Knox - an outspoken activist for gay rights - to the White House advisory council on faith-based initiatives.
"I think their goal is to have a very secular America in which government dominates everything," he said. "Why wouldn't you put an anti-religious, left-wing zealot on a faith-based group? It's a perfect pattern for this administration."
Since 2005, Knox has served as the director of the Human Rights Campaign, a national organization that advocates on behalf of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender individuals. He is also a former Methodist pastor.
Obama formally named Knox to the 25-member advisory council on Monday, a move that has not sat well with some Christian conservatives. The conservative Catholic League called him "unfit to serve," especially taking issue with Knox's recent comment characterizing Pope Benedict XVI as a "discredited leader" because of his opposition to gay marriage.
In a statement released earlier this week, Knox said, "The lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community is eager to help the administration achieve its goals around economic recovery and fighting poverty; fatherhood and healthy families; inter-religious dialogue; care for the environment; and global poverty, health and development."
But Gingrich said the Knox appointment, along with some other moves, proves the administration is trying to "go down in history as a consistently anti-religious, secular group of people who are consciously trying to drive things out."
Two days ago, Gingrich told Politico former Vice President Dick Cheney was "clearly right" when he asserted the Obama administration's national security policies have left the country more vulnerable to a terrorist attack.
And why is anything Gingrich writes considered evidence of anything?
Some of what Gingrich writes here is blatantly untrue, or at the very least, without a shred of evidence. For example:
This deserves to be called what it is. A lie and an attempt to slander the President with completely unfounded allegations regarding his motivations.go down in history as a consistently anti-religious, secular group of people who are consciously trying to drive things out.
It should be noted that there are plenty of religious people who advocate for gay rights, including gay marriage, and that includes me.
" . . . the line separating good and evil passes, not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart . . . ." Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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Post #78And me. And I'm not alone. This is from the Forward (long the premier Jewish newspaper in the US):micatala wrote: It should be noted that there are plenty of religious people who advocate for gay rights, including gay marriage, and that includes me.
Also, from the LA Times:An overwhelming majority of religious and lay leaders in the Conservative synagogue movement support gay rabbinical ordination and same-sex marriage, according to the results of a newly released survey.
No other ethnic or religious group voted as strongly against Prop 8 than the Jews.While many religious organizations supported Proposition 8, there was one major exception in Los Angeles, according to exit polling by the Leavey Center for the Study of Los Angeles at Loyola Marymount University. The center's data found that 78% of Jewish voters in L.A. opposed the ban on gay marriage and just 8% supported Prop. 8.
As I keep saying; wherever there is a struggle against discrimination, bigotry or injustice, you will find Jews in the front lines. (And, yes, that includes the struggle of Palestinians. There are more than 80 peace organizations in Israel.)
Oh, yeah: and just for the record, from that same LA Times story --
Los Angeles Jewish voters gave Obama 78% to 20% for Republican John McCain. Among all voters in L.A., 72% voted for Obama and 24% for McCain.
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Post #79CNorman, stop the namecalling. Those for traditional marriage are not bigots.cnorman18 wrote:And me. And I'm not alone. This is from the Forward (long the premier Jewish newspaper in the US):micatala wrote: It should be noted that there are plenty of religious people who advocate for gay rights, including gay marriage, and that includes me.Also, from the LA Times:An overwhelming majority of religious and lay leaders in the Conservative synagogue movement support gay rabbinical ordination and same-sex marriage, according to the results of a newly released survey.No other ethnic or religious group voted as strongly against Prop 8 than the Jews.While many religious organizations supported Proposition 8, there was one major exception in Los Angeles, according to exit polling by the Leavey Center for the Study of Los Angeles at Loyola Marymount University. The center's data found that 78% of Jewish voters in L.A. opposed the ban on gay marriage and just 8% supported Prop. 8.
As I keep saying; wherever there is a struggle against discrimination, bigotry or injustice, you will find Jews in the front lines. (And, yes, that includes the struggle of Palestinians. There are more than 80 peace organizations in Israel.)
Oh, yeah: and just for the record, from that same LA Times story --Los Angeles Jewish voters gave Obama 78% to 20% for Republican John McCain. Among all voters in L.A., 72% voted for Obama and 24% for McCain.
"We are fooling ourselves if we imagine that we can ever make the authentic Gospel popular......it is too simple in an age of rationalism; too narrow in an age of pluralism; too humiliating in an age of self-confidence; too demanding in an age of permissiveness; and too unpatriotic in an age of blind nationalism." Rev. John R.W. Stott, CBE
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Post #80Where did I say they were? I said "discrimination, bigotry OR injustice," you'll notice.East of Eden wrote:CNorman, stop the namecalling. Those for traditional marriage are not bigots.cnorman18 wrote:And me. And I'm not alone. This is from the Forward (long the premier Jewish newspaper in the US):micatala wrote: It should be noted that there are plenty of religious people who advocate for gay rights, including gay marriage, and that includes me.Also, from the LA Times:An overwhelming majority of religious and lay leaders in the Conservative synagogue movement support gay rabbinical ordination and same-sex marriage, according to the results of a newly released survey.No other ethnic or religious group voted as strongly against Prop 8 than the Jews.While many religious organizations supported Proposition 8, there was one major exception in Los Angeles, according to exit polling by the Leavey Center for the Study of Los Angeles at Loyola Marymount University. The center's data found that 78% of Jewish voters in L.A. opposed the ban on gay marriage and just 8% supported Prop. 8.
As I keep saying; wherever there is a struggle against discrimination, bigotry or injustice, you will find Jews in the front lines. (And, yes, that includes the struggle of Palestinians. There are more than 80 peace organizations in Israel.)
Oh, yeah: and just for the record, from that same LA Times story --Los Angeles Jewish voters gave Obama 78% to 20% for Republican John McCain. Among all voters in L.A., 72% voted for Obama and 24% for McCain.
All I did was display a public shoe; if you want to jump up and announce that it fits, that's not MY problem.