Immigration and minorities

[Cewakiyelo]

Here are a couple of interesting things I was given to review and I thought they were good enough to pass along so I am passing them along. Please feel free to comment on these two items if you wish.

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On February 4th, 2013, Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, addressed the Duma, (Russian Parliament), and gave a speech about the tensions with minorities in Russia:

"In Russia live Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law. Russia does not need minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'. We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation. The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of most minorities. When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the national interest first, observing that the minorities are not Russians.

This next item is a video by Ray Stevens it is a laugh yourself out of your seat lyrical commentary on the U.S. policy concerning immigration. It is to funny and sadly to true.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/WgOHOHKBEq ... detailpage

[10CC]

Do you think that the native americans should have a say in which immigrants and descendants of immigrants are allowed to stay?

Not anymore than anyone else. You aren't more of an American just because your descendants got here first.

Well I never said that I was. You have made your usual jump of faith and decided that if it looks like a rabbit and runs like a fox it must be a christian. Nah sorry jumps of faith never seem to work.

Obviously when I said 'your' I didn't mean you personally. I was talking against the ridiculous idea that Indians somehow have more of a right to decide policy than the rest of us, which you restate below. Seeing as they have their own 'nations', I don't see how they are even allowed to vote in our elections.

It is patently obvious that only the native americans (see the word NATIVE) are the only non immigrants in the country. Hence they are the only ones who have the right or not to accept immigrants.
Now that is a fact.

You're even wrong about that, Indians at one point came to North America from somewhere else, probably crossing the Bering land bridge. And English immigrants who came here from 1620-1776 technically were moving from one part of the British Empire to another, so they can't even be called immigrants.

What truly absurd arguments. Immigrants are people from a different country who have settled in another country.

Which means settlers from England weren't immigrants when they moved to another part of British territory. Are you an immigrant if you move from CA to NY?

When did these native americans cross the land bridge? I do hope it wasn't before adam?

Happy to fill in the gaps in your knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia

Well we know that this scientific fantasy is just that. They claim it happened 10,500yrs before Adam. How absurd, how could you possibly make this claim and expect anyone to believe it.

[East of Eden]

Do you think that the native americans should have a say in which immigrants and descendants of immigrants are allowed to stay?

Not anymore than anyone else. You aren't more of an American just because your descendants got here first.

Well I never said that I was. You have made your usual jump of faith and decided that if it looks like a rabbit and runs like a fox it must be a christian. Nah sorry jumps of faith never seem to work.

Obviously when I said 'your' I didn't mean you personally. I was talking against the ridiculous idea that Indians somehow have more of a right to decide policy than the rest of us, which you restate below. Seeing as they have their own 'nations', I don't see how they are even allowed to vote in our elections.

It is patently obvious that only the native americans (see the word NATIVE) are the only non immigrants in the country. Hence they are the only ones who have the right or not to accept immigrants.
Now that is a fact.

You're even wrong about that, Indians at one point came to North America from somewhere else, probably crossing the Bering land bridge. And English immigrants who came here from 1620-1776 technically were moving from one part of the British Empire to another, so they can't even be called immigrants.

What truly absurd arguments. Immigrants are people from a different country who have settled in another country.

Which means settlers from England weren't immigrants when they moved to another part of British territory. Are you an immigrant if you move from CA to NY?

When did these native americans cross the land bridge? I do hope it wasn't before adam?

Happy to fill in the gaps in your knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia

Well we know that this scientific fantasy is just that. They claim it happened 10,500yrs before Adam. How absurd, how could you possibly make this claim and expect anyone to believe it.

Where did I say when Adam lived?

[10CC]

Do you think that the native americans should have a say in which immigrants and descendants of immigrants are allowed to stay?

Not anymore than anyone else. You aren't more of an American just because your descendants got here first.

Well I never said that I was. You have made your usual jump of faith and decided that if it looks like a rabbit and runs like a fox it must be a christian. Nah sorry jumps of faith never seem to work.

Obviously when I said 'your' I didn't mean you personally. I was talking against the ridiculous idea that Indians somehow have more of a right to decide policy than the rest of us, which you restate below. Seeing as they have their own 'nations', I don't see how they are even allowed to vote in our elections.

It is patently obvious that only the native americans (see the word NATIVE) are the only non immigrants in the country. Hence they are the only ones who have the right or not to accept immigrants.
Now that is a fact.

You're even wrong about that, Indians at one point came to North America from somewhere else, probably crossing the Bering land bridge. And English immigrants who came here from 1620-1776 technically were moving from one part of the British Empire to another, so they can't even be called immigrants.

What truly absurd arguments. Immigrants are people from a different country who have settled in another country.

Which means settlers from England weren't immigrants when they moved to another part of British territory. Are you an immigrant if you move from CA to NY?

When did these native americans cross the land bridge? I do hope it wasn't before adam?

Happy to fill in the gaps in your knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia

Well we know that this scientific fantasy is just that. They claim it happened 10,500yrs before Adam. How absurd, how could you possibly make this claim and expect anyone to believe it.

Where did I say when Adam lived?

Was Adam created from a lump of dirt 6000yrs ago?

[East of Eden]

Do you think that the native americans should have a say in which immigrants and descendants of immigrants are allowed to stay?

Not anymore than anyone else. You aren't more of an American just because your descendants got here first.

Well I never said that I was. You have made your usual jump of faith and decided that if it looks like a rabbit and runs like a fox it must be a christian. Nah sorry jumps of faith never seem to work.

Obviously when I said 'your' I didn't mean you personally. I was talking against the ridiculous idea that Indians somehow have more of a right to decide policy than the rest of us, which you restate below. Seeing as they have their own 'nations', I don't see how they are even allowed to vote in our elections.

It is patently obvious that only the native americans (see the word NATIVE) are the only non immigrants in the country. Hence they are the only ones who have the right or not to accept immigrants.
Now that is a fact.

You're even wrong about that, Indians at one point came to North America from somewhere else, probably crossing the Bering land bridge. And English immigrants who came here from 1620-1776 technically were moving from one part of the British Empire to another, so they can't even be called immigrants.

What truly absurd arguments. Immigrants are people from a different country who have settled in another country.

Which means settlers from England weren't immigrants when they moved to another part of British territory. Are you an immigrant if you move from CA to NY?

When did these native americans cross the land bridge? I do hope it wasn't before adam?

Happy to fill in the gaps in your knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia

Well we know that this scientific fantasy is just that. They claim it happened 10,500yrs before Adam. How absurd, how could you possibly make this claim and expect anyone to believe it.

Where did I say when Adam lived?

Was Adam created from a lump of dirt 6000yrs ago?

I don't know about the exact timing, and I don't know why you think it a ridiculous proposition. You believe Adam (or whoevever the first man was in your book) arose unaided. Seen that happen in the lab lately? I have a hard time believing nothing times nobody equals everything.

[10CC]

Do you think that the native americans should have a say in which immigrants and descendants of immigrants are allowed to stay?

Not anymore than anyone else. You aren't more of an American just because your descendants got here first.

Well I never said that I was. You have made your usual jump of faith and decided that if it looks like a rabbit and runs like a fox it must be a christian. Nah sorry jumps of faith never seem to work.

Obviously when I said 'your' I didn't mean you personally. I was talking against the ridiculous idea that Indians somehow have more of a right to decide policy than the rest of us, which you restate below. Seeing as they have their own 'nations', I don't see how they are even allowed to vote in our elections.

It is patently obvious that only the native americans (see the word NATIVE) are the only non immigrants in the country. Hence they are the only ones who have the right or not to accept immigrants.
Now that is a fact.

You're even wrong about that, Indians at one point came to North America from somewhere else, probably crossing the Bering land bridge. And English immigrants who came here from 1620-1776 technically were moving from one part of the British Empire to another, so they can't even be called immigrants.

What truly absurd arguments. Immigrants are people from a different country who have settled in another country.

Which means settlers from England weren't immigrants when they moved to another part of British territory. Are you an immigrant if you move from CA to NY?

When did these native americans cross the land bridge? I do hope it wasn't before adam?

Happy to fill in the gaps in your knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia

Well we know that this scientific fantasy is just that. They claim it happened 10,500yrs before Adam. How absurd, how could you possibly make this claim and expect anyone to believe it.

Where did I say when Adam lived?

Was Adam created from a lump of dirt 6000yrs ago?

I don't know about the exact timing, and I don't know why you think it a ridiculous proposition. You believe Adam (or whoevever the first man was in your book) arose unaided. Seen that happen in the lab lately? I have a hard time believing nothing times nobody equals everything.

So your saying god didn't create Adam approx 6,000yrs ago?

[East of Eden]

Not anymore than anyone else. You aren't more of an American just because your descendants got here first.

Well I never said that I was. You have made your usual jump of faith and decided that if it looks like a rabbit and runs like a fox it must be a christian. Nah sorry jumps of faith never seem to work.

Obviously when I said 'your' I didn't mean you personally. I was talking against the ridiculous idea that Indians somehow have more of a right to decide policy than the rest of us, which you restate below. Seeing as they have their own 'nations', I don't see how they are even allowed to vote in our elections.

It is patently obvious that only the native americans (see the word NATIVE) are the only non immigrants in the country. Hence they are the only ones who have the right or not to accept immigrants.
Now that is a fact.

You're even wrong about that, Indians at one point came to North America from somewhere else, probably crossing the Bering land bridge. And English immigrants who came here from 1620-1776 technically were moving from one part of the British Empire to another, so they can't even be called immigrants.

What truly absurd arguments. Immigrants are people from a different country who have settled in another country.

Which means settlers from England weren't immigrants when they moved to another part of British territory. Are you an immigrant if you move from CA to NY?

When did these native americans cross the land bridge? I do hope it wasn't before adam?

Happy to fill in the gaps in your knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia

Well we know that this scientific fantasy is just that. They claim it happened 10,500yrs before Adam. How absurd, how could you possibly make this claim and expect anyone to believe it.

Where did I say when Adam lived?

Was Adam created from a lump of dirt 6000yrs ago?

I don't know about the exact timing, and I don't know why you think it a ridiculous proposition. You believe Adam (or whoevever the first man was in your book) arose unaided. Seen that happen in the lab lately? I have a hard time believing nothing times nobody equals everything.

So your saying god didn't create Adam approx 6,000yrs ago?

I'm saying I'm agnostic on that question, and that the answer isn't an essential of the faith. God created man, in His image.

[10CC]

Well I never said that I was. You have made your usual jump of faith and decided that if it looks like a rabbit and runs like a fox it must be a christian. Nah sorry jumps of faith never seem to work.

Obviously when I said 'your' I didn't mean you personally. I was talking against the ridiculous idea that Indians somehow have more of a right to decide policy than the rest of us, which you restate below. Seeing as they have their own 'nations', I don't see how they are even allowed to vote in our elections.

It is patently obvious that only the native americans (see the word NATIVE) are the only non immigrants in the country. Hence they are the only ones who have the right or not to accept immigrants.
Now that is a fact.

You're even wrong about that, Indians at one point came to North America from somewhere else, probably crossing the Bering land bridge. And English immigrants who came here from 1620-1776 technically were moving from one part of the British Empire to another, so they can't even be called immigrants.

What truly absurd arguments. Immigrants are people from a different country who have settled in another country.

Which means settlers from England weren't immigrants when they moved to another part of British territory. Are you an immigrant if you move from CA to NY?

When did these native americans cross the land bridge? I do hope it wasn't before adam?

Happy to fill in the gaps in your knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia

Well we know that this scientific fantasy is just that. They claim it happened 10,500yrs before Adam. How absurd, how could you possibly make this claim and expect anyone to believe it.

Where did I say when Adam lived?

Was Adam created from a lump of dirt 6000yrs ago?

I don't know about the exact timing, and I don't know why you think it a ridiculous proposition. You believe Adam (or whoevever the first man was in your book) arose unaided. Seen that happen in the lab lately? I have a hard time believing nothing times nobody equals everything.

So your saying god didn't create Adam approx 6,000yrs ago?

I'm saying I'm agnostic on that question, and that the answer isn't an essential of the faith. God created man, in His image.

OK when did the flood happen?

[East of Eden]

Obviously when I said 'your' I didn't mean you personally. I was talking against the ridiculous idea that Indians somehow have more of a right to decide policy than the rest of us, which you restate below. Seeing as they have their own 'nations', I don't see how they are even allowed to vote in our elections.
You're even wrong about that, Indians at one point came to North America from somewhere else, probably crossing the Bering land bridge. And English immigrants who came here from 1620-1776 technically were moving from one part of the British Empire to another, so they can't even be called immigrants.

What truly absurd arguments. Immigrants are people from a different country who have settled in another country.

Which means settlers from England weren't immigrants when they moved to another part of British territory. Are you an immigrant if you move from CA to NY?

When did these native americans cross the land bridge? I do hope it wasn't before adam?

Happy to fill in the gaps in your knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beringia

Well we know that this scientific fantasy is just that. They claim it happened 10,500yrs before Adam. How absurd, how could you possibly make this claim and expect anyone to believe it.

Where did I say when Adam lived?

Was Adam created from a lump of dirt 6000yrs ago?

I don't know about the exact timing, and I don't know why you think it a ridiculous proposition. You believe Adam (or whoevever the first man was in your book) arose unaided. Seen that happen in the lab lately? I have a hard time believing nothing times nobody equals everything.

So your saying god didn't create Adam approx 6,000yrs ago?

I'm saying I'm agnostic on that question, and that the answer isn't an essential of the faith. God created man, in His image.

OK when did the flood happen?

I don't know, and why do you care?

[10CC]

I don't know about the exact timing, and I don't know why you think it a ridiculous proposition. You believe Adam (or whoevever the first man was in your book) arose unaided. Seen that happen in the lab lately? I have a hard time believing nothing times nobody equals everything.

So your saying god didn't create Adam approx 6,000yrs ago?

I'm saying I'm agnostic on that question, and that the answer isn't an essential of the faith. God created man, in His image.

OK when did the flood happen?

I don't know, and why do you care?

Because according to the chronology of your book the chronology of your claim regarding the migration of native americans is impossible. Your claim that migrating from one country in the british empire to another country in the british empire is not actually migration is at best specious and probably just plain stupid. From which country 16,500yrs ago did the native americans migrate?

[East of Eden]

So your saying god didn't create Adam approx 6,000yrs ago?

I'm saying I'm agnostic on that question, and that the answer isn't an essential of the faith. God created man, in His image.

OK when did the flood happen?

I don't know, and why do you care?

Because according to the chronology of your book the chronology of your claim regarding the migration of native americans is impossible.

No it isn't.

Your claim that migrating from one country in the british empire to another country in the british empire is not actually migration is at best specious and probably just plain stupid.

Because a fact never occurred to you doesn't make it specious. Answer my question, if someone moves from CA to NY are they an immigrant?

From which country 16,500yrs ago did the native americans migrate?

Read the Wikipedia link, from Siberia.