Pat Buchanan curbstomps the bleeding hearts

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Pat Buchanan curbstomps the bleeding hearts

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I love the smell of annihilation in the morning:
“Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide,� wrote James Burnham in his 1964 “Suicide of the West.�

Burnham predicted that the mindless magnanimity of liberals, who subordinate the interests of their own people and nations to utopian and altruistic impulses, would bring about an end to Western civilization.

Was he wrong? Consider what is happening in Europe.
Angela Merkel will be taking in 800,000 this year alone, though the grumbling has begun in Bavaria.

This is but the beginning of what is to come, if Europe does not pull up the drawbridge.

For the scores of thousands of Syrians in the Balkans, Hungary, Austria and Germany are only the first wave. Behind them in Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan are 4 million refugees from the Syrian civil war. Seeing the success of the first wave, they are now on the move.

Behind them are 2 million Alawites and 2 million Christians who will be fleeing Syria when the Bashar Assad regime falls to ISIS and the al-Qaeda terrorists who already occupy half of that blood-soaked land.

Now the Iraqis, who live in a country the prospects for whose reunification and peace are receding, have begun to move. Also among the thousands pouring into Europe from Turkey are Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Afghans. When the Americans leave Afghanistan and the Taliban take their revenge, more Afghans will be fleeing west.

Africa has a billion people, a number that will double by 2050, and double again to 4 billion by 2100. Are those billions of Africans going to endure lives of poverty under ruthless, incompetent, corrupt and tyrannical regimes, if Europe’s door remains wide open?

What is coming is not difficult to predict.

Europe is going to run out of altruism long before it runs out of refugees.
Liberal Man almost alone excepted, every species of animal life reacts or recoils when another species intrudes upon its turf.

Thus, in the end, Burnham was probably right.

Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide.
The response to the refugee crisis has been troubling, exposing... just how impoverished our moral and political discourse actually is. For the difficult tasks of patient deliberation and discriminating political wisdom, a cult of sentimental humanitarianism--Neoliberalism's good cop to its bad cop of foreign military interventionism--substitutes the self-congratulatory ease of kneejerk emotional judgments, assuming that the 'right'...is immediately apparent from some instinctive apprehension of the 'good'. -AR

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Haven wrote: It deeply saddens me to see the amount of blatant racism and white supremacist sentiment on this thread. Sadly, it's a reflection of our deeply racist society.

I'm in favor of unlimited immigration--let people travel, live, and work wherever they choose without being impeded by any borders. Will this result in some social changes? Maybe, even though all evidence shows that immigrants to a country eventually assimilate in large ways to the surrounding culture. Still, even if it does, who cares? Societies should be multicultural.

With that aside, I don't care one bit about "Western civilization," because it doesn't exist. It's simply an artificial construct meant to glorify colonialism (remember that, when Westerners invaded non-Western continents and eradicated their peoples and cultures?) and the myth of white supremacy. The so-called "West" consists of many nations that are very different from each other on both a cultural and linguistic level (what do Finns have in common with Albanians, or Spaniards with Latvians?). It's not one civilization any more than Africa or Asia are single civilizations. "Western civilization" is simply used as a dog whistle, a thinly veiled euphemism for "white people." It's, ironically enough, a "politically correct" term meant to distract from the overtly racist nature of the assertions being made.
Your response here is basically related to an anthropological principle. In upper level anthropology courses, particularly theory, there's a tendency to playfully turn the word
'Ethnocentricm' into a playful insult/accusation.

Essentially the point is, Paprika claims that allowing large numbers of immigrants to enter our borders will ultimately cause our culture to be overtaken by theirs.

Even if this were true, which I find quite unlikely, what's your point, Paprika? Ethnocentrism is the belief that one's own culture is inherently superior to other cultures, and pretty much everyone believes it. Can you demonstrate that our culture is inherently superior to every other culture?
We do not hate others because of the flaws in their souls, we hate them because of the flaws in our own.

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Interestingly, Burnham also thought (hoped?) that the Nazis would win WWII.

So, there’s that.

Moreover, I was surprised to see that people are still into Pat Buchanan. Then again, as he was still ‘popular’ after being part of the Nixon inner-circle, questioning Holocaust figures, and defending Reagan’s visit to Bitburg, I guess he always have a certain constituency.

As an aside, I was born in Los Angeles and have lived in Chicago for more than a decade. Among other places, I have been to NY, Philadelphia, Detroit and Baltimore. I know what a ‘curbstomp’ is. I don’t think this is a good word choice and I wonder why it was posited.

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tfvespasianus wrote:I know what a ‘curbstomp’ is. I don’t think this is a good word choice and I wonder why it was posited.
Its called "trolling".

jgh7

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I sort of agree with Paprika's concerns. Allowing people to overrun your community can cause their way of living to take over yours.

I still support allowing refugees so long as:

1) You can logistically support them (you have sufficient space)
2) You can maintain your power and force them to integrate to your ways to a certain extent.

Number 2 requires much explanation. But I think one of the main forms of integration is forcing them to learn your language.

In America, our immigration overtook the Indians in a bad way.
But has further immigration overtaken "Americans"? I would argue no, because we have maintained our laws, government, and to a certain extent our main language of communication.

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Too many conservatives are folks who'd apply a liberal amount of government to our bedrooms, in total blindness to their hypocrisy.
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