Is The Tea Party Racist?

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Is The Tea Party Racist?

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The Tea Party is a protest movement of american citizens to limit the government, government spending and the deficit. Some (Nancy Pelosi, NAACP President, Harry Reid, Practically ALL democrats and liberals) claim the organization is racist?

1) Is there any evidence that the organization is racist?

2) Is this another dishonest ploy by the left to stir up racial contreversy

3) Are organizations such as the Nation of Islam, Black Panthars and NAACP also racist?

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East of Eden wrote:Cite?
A picture is worth a thousand words. This is Dale Robertson the very founder of the Tea Party'
[center]Image[/center]Obviously a racist who can't spell.

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SailingCyclops wrote:
East of Eden wrote:Cite?
A picture is worth a thousand words. This is Dale Robertson the very founder of the Tea Party'
[center]Image[/center]Obviously a racist who can't spell.

"Update: Josh Parker of the Houston Tea Party Society tells me that Robertson was booted out of the event for this sign."


So can we condemn Islam for it's multitude of nutcases? I wish all they did was hold up offensive signs.
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East of Eden wrote:Cite?
You asked for a citation, you got it.

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East of Eden wrote:Cite?
You asked for a citation, you got it.

Bob
Wyvern claimed 'many' Tea Party leaders were racist, you showed only one, who was expelled from the rally.
"We are fooling ourselves if we imagine that we can ever make the authentic Gospel popular......it is too simple in an age of rationalism; too narrow in an age of pluralism; too humiliating in an age of self-confidence; too demanding in an age of permissiveness; and too unpatriotic in an age of blind nationalism." Rev. John R.W. Stott, CBE

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East of Eden wrote:
suckka wrote:
SacredCowBurgers wrote: That was Lewis' report of the event. doing.
I challenge you to show that Mr. Lewis is lying about his first-hand account, which he commented on shortly after it happened.
Breitbart has offered a $100,000 reward for evidence of this charge of Mr. Lewis, and all we hear in response are crickets, despite the presence of lots of recording media that day. :confused2:

And we all know how reliable Breitbart is.



At any rate, the fact no one has collected Breitbart'ts money is not evidence Lewis is lying or that he was not called the N-Word. We've gone over this.

See Posts #72, 80, 83 and 87 in this thread.
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... c&start=70


I'll repeat that I do not consider the Tea party a racist organization (it is hardly even an organization) but that their are racists in the country and perhaps a larger percentage of those at tea party rallies are racist as compared to the population at large. Some of the leaders or former leaders may be racists, e.g. Mark Williams.

My problem with the tea party is not racism, and it is not that they don't raise legitimate issues. My problem is some of the positions espoused at the rallies and by associated candidates are based on poor information or logic, or downright untruths, and that they have largely not stepped up to the plate to offer sound and well-thought potential solutions. We dont need sloganeering, especially sloganeering that is based on emotion and inaccuaracy.
" . . . the line separating good and evil passes, not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart . . . ." Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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East of Eden wrote:Wyvern claimed 'many' Tea Party leaders were racist, you showed only one, who was expelled from the rally.
Hurricane Katrina, bigot, Mark Williams
Williams: ..they didn't have the necessary brains and common sense to get out of the way of a Cat 5 Hurricane and then when it hit them- stood on the side of the convention Center expiring while reporters were coming and going..
Mark Williams, Tea Party Express Spokesman

Then we have Michele Bachmann and her racist supporters. Bachman you will recall is the leader of the Congressional Tea Party Caucus.
An internet-based group of Minnesotans today called on State Sen. Michele Bachmann (R-Stillwater) to repudiate a key national supporter or hers, Family Research Council President Tony Perkins, for his connections to America’s leading white supremacist organization, the Council of Concerned Citizens and former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke.

“Sen. Bachmann featured Tony Perkins as a keynote speaker April 20 at her anti-gay rally on the steps of the state capitol,� said Eva Young, organizer for DumpBachmann.com, an internet blog and Meetup group. “We find it repugnant that a nationally known friend of hate groups like the CCC and KKK would be invited to speak on the steps of our state capitol by anyone, much less a state senator. Every Minnesotan should find that repugnant as well, and we demand that Sen. Bachmann publicly disassociate herself from Tony Perkins and his Family Research Council.�
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Want more? There's plenty of high-ranking leaders of the tea party who are racists, are supported by racists, and who associate publicly with racists.

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SailingCyclops wrote:
East of Eden wrote:Wyvern claimed 'many' Tea Party leaders were racist, you showed only one, who was expelled from the rally.
Hurricane Katrina, bigot, Mark Williams
Williams: ..they didn't have the necessary brains and common sense to get out of the way of a Cat 5 Hurricane and then when it hit them- stood on the side of the convention Center expiring while reporters were coming and going..
Mark Williams, Tea Party Express Spokesman
Uh, want to point out the racist parts? Speaking against the NAACP is now racist? :confused2:
Then we have Michele Bachmann and her racist supporters. Bachman you will recall is the leader of the Congressional Tea Party Caucus.
An internet-based group of Minnesotans today called on State Sen. Michele Bachmann (R-Stillwater) to repudiate a key national supporter or hers, Family Research Council President Tony Perkins, for his connections to America’s leading white supremacist organization, the Council of Concerned Citizens and former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke.

“Sen. Bachmann featured Tony Perkins as a keynote speaker April 20 at her anti-gay rally on the steps of the state capitol,� said Eva Young, organizer for DumpBachmann.com, an internet blog and Meetup group. “We find it repugnant that a nationally known friend of hate groups like the CCC and KKK would be invited to speak on the steps of our state capitol by anyone, much less a state senator. Every Minnesotan should find that repugnant as well, and we demand that Sen. Bachmann publicly disassociate herself from Tony Perkins and his Family Research Council.�
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Want more? There's plenty of high-ranking leaders of the tea party who are racists, are supported by racists, and who associate publicly with racists.

Bob
Perkins 'connection' with David Duke seems to be that he bought a list from him. Big deal. Bachmann never did nor did she speak to the CCC group. With all the left-wing kooks involved with the Obama adminstration they should be the last ones to point fingers. I cite the Marxist Van Jones, who thought 9/11 was a government conspiracy. Marxist have killed tens of millions more than the KKK ever did.

Did you also have a problem with former KKK guy Sen. Robert Byrd?

We're still waiting for Obama to repudiate Rev. Wright and his racist associates, not to mention the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers.
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East of Eden wrote: Did you also have a problem with former KKK guy Sen. Robert Byrd?

We're still waiting for Obama to repudiate Rev. Wright and his racist associates, not to mention the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers.
You asked for more racists at the top of the tea party. I gave you two more. Changing the subject will not make the racist leadership of the tea party go away now will it?

Attempting to take the discussion off-topic is a common ploy when there is no answer to the question at hand. Which is "Is The Tea Party Racist?"

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SailingCyclops wrote:
East of Eden wrote: Did you also have a problem with former KKK guy Sen. Robert Byrd?

We're still waiting for Obama to repudiate Rev. Wright and his racist associates, not to mention the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers.
You asked for more racists at the top of the tea party. I gave you two more. Changing the subject will not make the racist leadership of the tea party go away now will it?

Attempting to take the discussion off-topic is a common ploy when there is no answer to the question at hand. Which is "Is The Tea Party Racist?"

Bob
Of course not. Nothing in its stated is goals is racist. It is an organization of millions of people. I originally noted the double standard of the left condemning the Tea Party because of a few people while giving Islam a pass despite tens of thousands of kooks, if not criminals.

Is The Obama Administration Marxist?
"We are fooling ourselves if we imagine that we can ever make the authentic Gospel popular......it is too simple in an age of rationalism; too narrow in an age of pluralism; too humiliating in an age of self-confidence; too demanding in an age of permissiveness; and too unpatriotic in an age of blind nationalism." Rev. John R.W. Stott, CBE

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East of Eden wrote:
Wyvern wrote: The problem for the Tea party movement is that many of its founders have gone on record as being racist.
Cite? To paraphrase the famous saying 'Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel', the charge of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Tea Party Express founder Williams was expelled from the Tea Party federation due to racism allegations.
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/artic ... chery%22

The Springboro Tea Party founder Sonny Thomas made a very racist twitter post which he tried to cover for by saying it was a joke.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/d ... cal-news

Dale Robertson self proclaimed founder of the Tea Party movement and founder of TeaParty.org was famously photographed with a badly spelled racist sign while at the same time he has also publicly said he has never even seen any racial slurs at Tea Party events.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/tea-pa ... rd-sign/

From the leader of the North Iowa Tea Party comes this. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php? ... id=20173

To be a member of an organization means you agree with the founders ideals in regards to the organization whether it is Al Qaida or the Tea Party.
Exactly what we tried to warn people about Obama attending a radical church for 20 years that was buddies with the racist Jew-hater Farrakhan, even giving him awards. And then there's his association with the unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers.

Here's a sample of the Rev.Wright's friend Farrakhan hate towards many groups:
In America we have this thing known as freedom of association but it seems you only believe in guilt by association. The Ayers thing has been refuted so many times on this forum I am surprised you still bother bringing it up, unless you have nothing else which says a lot in itself. Now you are trying to smear Obama not with things he said or even things Rev. Wright has said, but with things Farrakhan has said even though as far as I can tell Obama has no association with him whatsoever. Obviously this church did not mean all that much to Obama considering how easily he was able to sever ties to it once it became an issue.
You said: "To be a member of an organization means you agree with the founders ideals in regards to the organization whether it is Al Qaida or the Tea Party." Doesn't this make Obama a racist for attending this radical church for 20 years? I know he claimed he never heard this stuff, but he would have to be lying or stupid to do so.
Guilt by association again, as we both know Obama is no longer a member of this church so I would say that is a definite refutation by Obama of Rev. Wright's ideals.

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