Top 100 Christian Forums

Churchwork · Post by **Churchwork** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:20 pm

Things are growing steadily. Combined, these Christian forums together, make the second largest Christian forum on the internet reciprocating with each other.

If you are able to change your holy huddle room to something respectful like Christians in fellowship room, you can join the Top 100 Christian Forums. It was not I that alone that came to this decision, but it was several forum owners who thought the same.

That would seem fair.

http://christianforums.itopsites.com/

I don't want to exclude anyone unecessarily, but that is the best I can do to include this particular forum.

We must do the right thing.

Post by **otseng** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:02 pm

I do not think that the name "Holy Huddle Room" has been derogatory. Certainly nobody has mentioned this before. I will leave it up to the members here to make the decision of whether to change the name or not.

For all members, do you feel the "Holy Huddle Room" should be renamed in order to be included in the above mentioned site? If so, what should it be renamed to?

Piper Plexed · Post by **Piper Plexed** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:20 pm

I guess we could though I find it sorta controlling and strange of these people to even request such a change

I guess if the benefits outweigh the strangeness of the request then I am behind ya.

And if a change happens I am OK with the generic "Christian Fellowship Room"

Churchwork · Post by **Churchwork** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:27 pm

I don't want to control you.

I am just thinking of the little brothers and sisters.

Churchwork · Post by **Churchwork** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:31 pm

There was two reactions I got from other forum owners.

1) Holly Huddle Room

2) Debating.
- in other words, Christians don't debate, for they need not debate since we have the Holy Spirit in our spirit and know the truth.

Again I don't want to control you, and that is why you ought not join then.

But Debating made so prominent is not in eternity future.

How about Comparing Christianity to Religions

Doesn't that sound nicer to your heart and fill your spirit with more strength than the hardened statement,

Debating Christianity and Religion.

Piper Plexed · Post by **Piper Plexed** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:05 pm

Churchwork wrote: Again I don't want to control you, and that is why you ought not join then.

I don't believe I speak for Otseng, honestly I am one member of many whom were asked about our feelings. Frankly I respect Otseng for treating us as a community and reaching out to us for feedback. I trust that Otseng will make a decision that will be in the best interests of all, the members and the site.

Travis · Post by **Travis** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:49 pm

I totally agree with Piper Plexed here. The request still doesn’t make much sense (to me anyway) even in light of your explanation.

How is anyone harmed by using a witty and original name instead of a blander one? (Holy Huddle Room)

‘Comparing Christianity to Religions’ is in my eyes a misnomer if used to describe this site. Political correctness for what end again?

*(I'm not trying to be confrontational, I just don't get it)

TQWcS · Post by **TQWcS** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:10 pm

I agree with piper and travis on this one. I don't see how holy huddle room could be considered offensive to anyone.

Churchwork · Post by **Churchwork** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 3:46 am

I suppose that is why Debate Christianity and Religion is not on the Top 100 Christian Forums, because your conscience can't see the problem as already explained.

http://christianforums.itopsites.com/

That is that.

nikolayevich · Post by **nikolayevich** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:37 pm

Hello, Churchwork.

I can only assume because you run a Christian listing that you are a Christian, so I will pose my response as to a Christian, though I hope the relevance can be seen by any individual visiting this forum.

I think it must be questioned where you get the idea that debate is wrong, as a Christian or otherwise.

When the Bible says (assuming Christianity), "...always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you..." it is important to note the word "defense". The word is often used with regard to "opposition", the implied meaning being that there will be at least one alternate viewpoint with which you may wrestle.

When you defend your beliefs in person or "mano a mano", I'm sure you can recognize that if someone disagrees with you, you have ipso facto engaged in debate-

1. To consider something; deliberate.
2. To engage in argument by discussing opposing points.
3. To engage in a formal discussion or argument. See Synonyms at discuss.
4. Obsolete. To fight or quarrel.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language

Churchwork wrote:I suppose that is why Debate Christianity and Religion is not on the Top 100 Christian Forums, because your conscience can't see the problem as already explained.

Caring people can engage in friendly debate. I remember a discussion in early (junior in the US) high school where the entire class went one way and I went another. The topic was war- a heated topic at any rate, but I felt that there were important points that were not considered and my "conscience" did not sit well with remaining silent. So I simply disagreed. That simple disagreement caused debate. I don't remember the details except to say, whether or not I was right, I felt that it was important for an alternate viewpoint to be heard.

If you appreciate that there are agnostics and atheists on this website, you will see that they too feel that their viewpoint should be heard. And why not? They are thinking individuals like you and I. It's a remarkable thing when you think about it- Christians, Agnostics, Atheists, Deists... not fist fighting, but listening to each other (hopefully). This is not about all of us accepting each other's ideas, but rather, accepting each other as people and differing on ideas. If you observe the rules of engagement, you will note that if one follows these, there is no room for personal attacks or unfriendliness.

Again since I am directing this as to a Christian, I feel it would be somewhat conspicuous to ignore the example that Jesus set for "discussion". I think it is fairly clear that numerous times He engaged in even heated debate. He called one group of people "brooding vipers"- something not allowed on this site, not because it's wrong, but because we simply can't control whether someone's use of such epithets is going to serve any positive purpose for what this site is about- civil discussion & debate.

I can't help but note that in this very thread you have engaged in debate, though mentioning that, "Christians don't debate". By your assertion on this subject you have debated the point. So, please understand that your ideas and viewpoints are welcome, but you have arrived at a community where debate is also welcomed.