Is there ever a justified case for adultery?

[ssnapier]

This is a question that I am sure will get some people fired up so please remain calm. I just want to know if you can see any scenario in which adultery would be justified.

[Goat]

This is a question that I am sure will get some people fired up so please remain calm. I just want to know if you can see any scenario in which adultery would be justified.

If the spouse is in a persistent vegetative state, with no chance of getting better.

Then, it is at least understandable.

[Beto]

Depends on weather or not you associate infidelity with the term. If the couple likes swinging I don't see anything wrong with it (provided all parts involved are aware of this). Otherwise, and assuming the couple gets married under common monogamy precepts, I would say no. In this case I find adultery is directly related to cowardice and lack of honesty.

If one's spouse becomes a vegetable, like previously mentioned, one will most likely only stay married out of fear of hypocritical criticism from the society. Isn't the most logical thing to divorce, take care of the person for the rest of his/her life if one feels obligated to, and otherwise get on with one's life?

[Darren]

If your partner sleeps with someone, do you have a 'right' to know? I say no.
Is there ever a justified case for adultery? Yes, if one of the parties wanted to adulter, that is their business.

[Goat]

If your partner sleeps with someone, do you have a 'right' to know? I say no.
Is there ever a justified case for adultery? Yes, if one of the parties wanted to adulter, that is their business.

I would have to say you are wrong. Have you ever heard the phrase 'sexually transmitted disease.' I would say that if you have a chance of an STD because your partner messed around, you have the right to know.

[Beto]

If your partner sleeps with someone, do you have a 'right' to know? I say no.

Assuming a commitment (when you know your partner is monogamous) makes you accountable towards your partner's feelings. It's really about the honor and integrity (if the concepts mean anything to you) of BOTH. If someone fakes a commitment just to get sexual satisfaction, I would classify this person as a "sexual predator", as weak minded as any other.

Is there ever a justified case for adultery? Yes, if one of the parties wanted to adulter, that is their business.

Think about that one for a while, and try to realize where that line of reasoning leads to. Goat already helped you there. You'll end up excusing any behavior that emotionally (and sometimes on a DEEP physical level) hurts people as it's "their business".

[Darren]

If your partner sleeps with someone, do you have a 'right' to know? I say no.
Is there ever a justified case for adultery? Yes, if one of the parties wanted to adulter, that is their business.

I would have to say you are wrong. Have you ever heard the phrase 'sexually transmitted disease.'

Please let's avoid sarcasm. I know plenty about STI's. They have been called that (instead of STD's) for a few years now, by the way.

I would say that if you have a chance of an STD because your partner messed around, you have the right to know.

If that were the case, you MAY have a right to know, but if you get an STI, you got it because you messed around (with your wife, perhaps).

You never have a right to ownership over someone else.

[ssnapier]

Ok, well then sticking with the general consensus that adultery is wrong, let's ask another question. Once the person being cheated on discovers it... how they discover it is of no real consequence... is it possible to ever truly recover the relationship?

[Darren]

If your partner sleeps with someone, do you have a 'right' to know? I say no.

Assuming a commitment (when you know your partner is monogamous)

(my bold)This phrase is telling. When do you 'know'? The only way to know would be total control, otherwise, you have trust, at best. Trust doesn't give you the 'right' to control someone else's organs.

It's really about the honor and integrity (if the concepts mean anything to you) of BOTH.

I think I would rather have honour and integrity than your bullying idea that you must be honest.

Is there ever a justified case for adultery? Yes, if one of the parties wanted to adulter, that is their business.

Think about that one for a while, and try to realize where that line of reasoning leads to. Goat already helped you there. You'll end up excusing any behavior that emotionally (and sometimes on a DEEP physical level) hurts people as it's "their business".

The fact of the matter is that you cannot require someone to tell you about their personal life. That is bullying. You are welcome (and justified) to stop being partners upon discovering this lie, I think you are not justified in requiring sexual control over another.
People get hurt all the time because popular opinion leads them to think they have the right to expect 'sexual honesty' with their partner.
Why is it OK to compel someone to tell you intimate details about themselves and another?

[Goat]

If your partner sleeps with someone, do you have a 'right' to know? I say no.

Assuming a commitment (when you know your partner is monogamous)

(my bold)This phrase is telling. When do you 'know'? The only way to know would be total control, otherwise, you have trust, at best. Trust doesn't give you the 'right' to control someone else's organs.

It's really about the honor and integrity (if the concepts mean anything to you) of BOTH.

I think I would rather have honour and integrity than your bullying idea that you must be honest.

Is there ever a justified case for adultery? Yes, if one of the parties wanted to adulter, that is their business.

Think about that one for a while, and try to realize where that line of reasoning leads to. Goat already helped you there. You'll end up excusing any behavior that emotionally (and sometimes on a DEEP physical level) hurts people as it's "their business".

The fact of the matter is that you cannot require someone to tell you about their personal life. That is bullying. You are welcome (and justified) to stop being partners upon discovering this lie, I think you are not justified in requiring sexual control over another.
People get hurt all the time because popular opinion leads them to think they have the right to expect 'sexual honesty' with their partner.
Why is it OK to compel someone to tell you intimate details about themselves and another?

It all depends on the person. A commitment to some people is both people being exclusive. From a practical point of view, this eliminates the chance of one partner picking up a disease from someone else, and also it insures that the offspring will be between the two of them. From an economic point of view, I don't feel that I would want to raise a child of someone my wife had a fling with. Also, it would effect my wife if I had to pay child support because of my own infidelity.

And, risking spreading a fatal disease with someone who is assuming you are going to be monogamous is a risk not worth taking.