Does one idealogy solve all problems?

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Does one idealogy solve all problems?

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From what I've gathered over my short lived years I've come to realize there's a point to every lifestyle or unconscious belief system that doesn't agree with the general consensus. Someone could tolerant another religion for example, but only to the extent that they find something disagreeable.

The idea I want to propose here is that though a lot of people are tolerant and considerate of other religions, yet neither are truly provable (including the belief in evolution some might say) then how can we honestly expect to solve problems that aren't relative or positively influential of or outside the religions themselves?

One aspect of this I've been dwelling on today is the idea that people tend to revolve around the persons emphasizing current issues. This actually seems at a rare occurence to me, but when everyone feels strongly about a particular subject, the ones that seem to speak most loudly (and not intelligently) seem to get heard the most.

I've been told by evolutionist, on top of all this confusion, that this culture has become as selected as these apparent birds in africa, who's females choose the males with the evolutionary disadvantage (longer more elegant tales) rather than the males who will bare the most adequate offspring.

They propose the idea that, like the sensible woman dating the redneck, these creatures are more interested in hollow appeal than in intelligent choice. lol. Or maybe our women are more interested in finding daddy reincarnated. Idk.

I could even propose further that this generations self ideals are more concerned with their own time in existence, rather than the next generation's. And that's too obvious of an answer for this topic.

All these ideals, beliefs, mentalities, established on the foundations of apparent truth, which are self defining of these individuals; is it not possible their choice in (probable) wrongs have dictated and stunted the actually mentalities needed for the positives we look so dearly to and for?

Or do you believe that there's one idealogy solving, or capable of solving all problems?

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The Bible ends with the solution to your question.
A house divided cannot stand.

End time shows a world government and a world as the solution to all problems.

I believe that this is the only way to solve the problems that will soon face us.
The destruction of the environment.
The repair of the environment.
World famine.
War.
You name it.

Only with a centralized world government will we solve these problem with any speed.
Even today with the environment, we see countries draging there feet in reducing pollution because the benefits end up elsewhere. For instance if the US were to invest a billion in ocean water cleaning technology, they would want to control the population of oceans. They would not get it and it is likely that some other countries would continue or even increase the levels of their pollution.
Even now China is planing more coal fire hydro projects. Where will the air pollution produced end up. Possibly in countries who have spent resources on air cleaning projects. With a net gain of 0, how many countries will be encouraged to raise taxes for projects that do not even maintain current levels of pollution.
It will be impossible to clean things up without a central control.

A central government may need a centralized religion to give it birth because only that power presently crosses borders without loosing power.

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Re: Unification.

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Greatest I Am wrote:The Bible ends with the solution to your question.
A house divided cannot stand.

End time shows a world government and a world as the solution to all problems.

I believe that this is the only way to solve the problems that will soon face us.
The destruction of the environment.
The repair of the environment.
World famine.
War.
You name it.

Only with a centralized world government will we solve these problem with any speed.
Even today with the environment, we see countries draging there feet in reducing pollution because the benefits end up elsewhere. For instance if the US were to invest a billion in ocean water cleaning technology, they would want to control the population of oceans. They would not get it and it is likely that some other countries would continue or even increase the levels of their pollution.
Even now China is planing more coal fire hydro projects. Where will the air pollution produced end up. Possibly in countries who have spent resources on air cleaning projects. With a net gain of 0, how many countries will be encouraged to raise taxes for projects that do not even maintain current levels of pollution.
It will be impossible to clean things up without a central control.

A central government may need a centralized religion to give it birth because only that power presently crosses borders without loosing power.

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DL
Well, ok a centralized government I can see as a possibility, but I'm also interested in what's preventing us from attaining it. Seperate religions, seperate lifestyles, seperate mentalities. They all have to be recognized, though there are points within each one which contradict the other. So does one conceed? I don't see that happening. :-k Even at this point we've come to realize that the united nations is mostly all talk. And that marketing and oil companies are backing political stance.

As of right now we're continuing to be tollerant of each other, at least more than what we've been in the past. But how can problems actually be solved with everyone of every idealogy divided?

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Re: Unification.

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sledheavy wrote:
Greatest I Am wrote:The Bible ends with the solution to your question.
A house divided cannot stand.

End time shows a world government and a world as the solution to all problems.

I believe that this is the only way to solve the problems that will soon face us.
The destruction of the environment.
The repair of the environment.
World famine.
War.
You name it.

Only with a centralized world government will we solve these problem with any speed.
Even today with the environment, we see countries draging there feet in reducing pollution because the benefits end up elsewhere. For instance if the US were to invest a billion in ocean water cleaning technology, they would want to control the population of oceans. They would not get it and it is likely that some other countries would continue or even increase the levels of their pollution.
Even now China is planing more coal fire hydro projects. Where will the air pollution produced end up. Possibly in countries who have spent resources on air cleaning projects. With a net gain of 0, how many countries will be encouraged to raise taxes for projects that do not even maintain current levels of pollution.
It will be impossible to clean things up without a central control.

A central government may need a centralized religion to give it birth because only that power presently crosses borders without loosing power.

Regards
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Well, ok a centralized government I can see as a possibility, but I'm also interested in what's preventing us from attaining it. Seperate religions, seperate lifestyles, seperate mentalities. They all have to be recognized, though there are points within each one which contradict the other. So does one conceed? I don't see that happening. :-k Even at this point we've come to realize that the united nations is mostly all talk. And that marketing and oil companies are backing political stance.

As of right now we're continuing to be tollerant of each other, at least more than what we've been in the past. But how can problems actually be solved with everyone of every idealogy divided?
We can't.
Religion will have to push the political to make the move.
Religion is the cross border mediator that is required.
When religion unifies then governments will have the confidence to move to world government.

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sledheavy wrote:
Greatest I Am wrote:The Bible ends with the solution to your question.
A house divided cannot stand.

End time shows a world government and a world as the solution to all problems.

I believe that this is the only way to solve the problems that will soon face us.
The destruction of the environment.
The repair of the environment.
World famine.
War.
You name it.

Only with a centralized world government will we solve these problem with any speed.
Even today with the environment, we see countries draging there feet in reducing pollution because the benefits end up elsewhere. For instance if the US were to invest a billion in ocean water cleaning technology, they would want to control the population of oceans. They would not get it and it is likely that some other countries would continue or even increase the levels of their pollution.
Even now China is planing more coal fire hydro projects. Where will the air pollution produced end up. Possibly in countries who have spent resources on air cleaning projects. With a net gain of 0, how many countries will be encouraged to raise taxes for projects that do not even maintain current levels of pollution.
It will be impossible to clean things up without a central control.

A central government may need a centralized religion to give it birth because only that power presently crosses borders without loosing power.

Regards
DL
Well, ok a centralized government I can see as a possibility, but I'm also interested in what's preventing us from attaining it. Seperate religions, seperate lifestyles, seperate mentalities. They all have to be recognized, though there are points within each one which contradict the other. So does one conceed? I don't see that happening. :-k Even at this point we've come to realize that the united nations is mostly all talk. And that marketing and oil companies are backing political stance.

As of right now we're continuing to be tollerant of each other, at least more than what we've been in the past. But how can problems actually be solved with everyone of every idealogy divided?
As stated "A central government may need a centralized religion to give it birth because only that power presently crosses borders without loosing power".
The Churches need to smarten up and amalgamate, especially Christianity.

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So how do you think the effects of that might be on the other examples I've given in the first post? You think idealogies and other mentalities might change because of this alteration?

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Greatest I Am wrote: A central government may need a centralized religion to give it birth because only that power presently crosses borders without loosing power.
Any thought as to the format of this centalized religion? One of the extant ones...or a completely new religion yet to be conceived of?
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Greatest I Am wrote:As stated "A central government may need a centralized religion to give it birth because only that power presently crosses borders without loosing power".
The Churches need to smarten up and amalgamate, especially Christianity.
In 1776 and the years following, a new upstart nation, united many of the English colonies in North America. The new central government had no centralized religion yet it grew from the original thirteen to fifty, expanded from a loose confederation to the world's only superpower without the unifying force of established religion. Since then, many other countries have followed in their path, following the principle of the separation of religion from governance.
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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The truth will make you free.
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sledheavy wrote:So how do you think the effects of that might be on the other examples I've given in the first post? You think ideologies and other mentalities might change because of this alteration?
If you were to do a demographic study of all countries you would find that people everywhere are about the same in what they do with there time.
As to religion, if you read the various Bibles you will find that they too are generally the same in terms of telling adherents how to act in their daily lives. The name of God may change but the message is about the same. All Bibles tend to show the carrot and stick philosophy of old. They all show God as well as the Antichrist if you will, within their pages.

A world religion, as in the days of Christ, will amalgamate the best of the philosophies and write a new Bible.

Soonest is best for this to happen.

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bernee51 wrote:
Greatest I Am wrote: A central government may need a centralized religion to give it birth because only that power presently crosses borders without loosing power.
Any thought as to the format of this centralized religion? One of the extant ones...or a completely new religion yet to be conceived of?
Post 9 may have answered this.
Possibly under a new name. possibly not.

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