Dinosaurs and God

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Dinosaurs and God

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Could anyone shed any light on where Christianity and God stands on the subject of dinosaurs? Who created them? God? And when? Did they really exist millions of years ago? And if so, why were they created first (if they were created) and why such a long time before Man?
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AdrianB wrote:Hi,
Could anyone shed any light on where Christianity and God stands on the subject of dinosaurs? Who created them? God? And when? Did they really exist millions of years ago? And if so, why were they created first (if they were created) and why such a long time before Man?
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Creationists claim that they where created as all other animals and died out.

Others, like the Older Creationists (around 10-15 years ago) said they never existed, and Dinosours are made up by scientists. Yes, this was the default stance by all Creationists during this time (not to long ago).

Else, Christians normally (not including United States) know they existed "millions of years ago" etcetera, and simple accept it. In the U.S its different, as 50% believe the world is 10 000 years old, or less. So its a hard nut to crack that one.
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Scrotum wrote:
AdrianB wrote:Hi,
Could anyone shed any light on where Christianity and God stands on the subject of dinosaurs? Who created them? God? And when? Did they really exist millions of years ago? And if so, why were they created first (if they were created) and why such a long time before Man?
Adrian
Creationists claim that they where created as all other animals and died out.

Others, like the Older Creationists (around 10-15 years ago) said they never existed, and Dinosours are made up by scientists. Yes, this was the default stance by all Creationists during this time (not to long ago).

Else, Christians normally (not including United States) know they existed "millions of years ago" etcetera, and simple accept it. In the U.S its different, as 50% believe the world is 10 000 years old, or less. So its a hard nut to crack that one.
And what am I? Chopped liver?

Your generalizations about the USA detract from your arguments. Yes we all are well aware you hate us. Thank you for making this clear. Now shall we move on, minus the editorial comments about other nations?

I fit into the (else/ anti-USA) catagory. I know they existed. I believe they were created by God, Via evolution, and that they died out several million years ago. I do not believe this conflicts with the bible in any place.
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That's intelligent design, not creationism, achilles. They're very separate hypotheses. Scrot was very accurate in describing the stance of creationists.
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I fit into the (else/ anti-USA) catagory. I know they existed. I believe they were created by God, Via evolution, and that they died out several million years ago. I do not believe this conflicts with the bible in any place.
Does the bible make references to the creation of creatures/animals some time before Man? And why would God do this? Why not just create at one time?Sorry to sound ignorant but I have no great knowledge of the bible...
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Animals preceded humans. Adam supposedly named the animals according to Genesis.
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AdrianB wrote: Could anyone shed any light on where Christianity and God stands on the subject of dinosaurs?
I know of no reference to dinosaurs in the Bible. In Genesis, they would have presumably counted as some of the "living creatures" brought forth on the earth, thus created on the sixth day.
AdrianB wrote: Who created them? God? And when?
Dinosaurs evolved from archosaurs roughly 230 million years ago during the Triassic Age. If God had anything to do with it, then he must have worked through evolution.
AdrianB wrote: Did they really exist millions of years ago?
Yes, approx. 230 million to 65 million years ago when they were wiped out in the Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event.
AdrianB wrote: And if so, why were they created first (if they were created) and why such a long time before Man?
Well, of course, they were not created first, since single cell organisms pre-date them by many hundred million years. Fortunately for us, they became extinct (with the possible exceptions of birds who many paleontologists believe evolved from a theropod dinosaur) so that mammals could fill their evolutionary niches and eventually allow for the evolution toward man.

As an aside, whenever this topic comes up I always have this mental picture of Adam and Eve being chased around the Garden of Eden by a Tyrannosaurus Rex!

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You have to be carfeul on this subject.

"Fundamentalist Christian" being Christians to stupid to think for themselves avoid the simple FACTS and believe that dinosaurs must have been made on the sixth day and co-existed with man. Then must have become exticnt by "the great flood". The Bible teaches (in Genesis 1:29-30) that the original animals (and the first humans) were commanded to be vegetarian, of course this means dinosaurs too. It was not till Adam sinned by eating the apple that carnivours came to be.

Doesnt this idea sound plausible. Despite there being a bounty of evidence suggesting dinosaurs died many many years before man walked the Earth and not a shred of evidence to suggest otherwise, this is still believed by Christians to lazy or stupid to pick up a book other than the Bible.

I like to think God has a fantastic sense of humour. He and his pixies spent the seventh day burying bones. When you die you reach the pearly gates, St Peter ask "Do you believe in Dinosaurs" If you say Yes, God pisses himself laughing, if you say no, he sends you to hell for ruining his fun.

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nine dog war wrote:I like to think God has a fantastic sense of humour.
Why? I hate to destroy your fun, but I cannot see why an omniscient omnipotent being can have a sense of humour.

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olivergringold wrote:That's intelligent design, not creationism, achilles. They're very separate hypotheses. Scrot was very accurate in describing the stance of creationists.
No, scrot was his typical condescending one sided view presentation of himself. Present creationist view, then ad hominem the US and all Christians within the US because of his personal views. Where did Achilles present ID? He said God created dinosaurs and they became extinct. How is this ID?

Granted, I am not exactly theist, but I think you are dead wrong in this post. Scrot was completely accurate in a one-sided point of self centered view. Where in the OP does it ask for just the creationist view? And where exactly was the need to insult the US population to present a non-creationist view if so many of Americans are supposedly his claim of "creationists"? Needless insults meant to play the unsuspecting into believing a slanted and extremely typical biased view.
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