Wootah wrote: ↑Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:32 pm
John 5: 19 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father[e] does, that the Son does likewise. 20 For the Father loves the Son and shows him all that he himself is doing. And greater works than these will he show him, so that you may marvel. 21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will. 22 For the Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. 24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
Verse 23 that all may honor the son just as they honor the Father.
If you worship God alone how does this make sense unless Jesus is also God?
23 so that all will honor the Son even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.
Focus on the fact that the Father's Spirit came to dwell in Jesus and then the Father sent Jesus out into the world to do the works of the Father.
John 14:10 "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me?
The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works.
One must recognize that Jesus is our One True God the Father's messenger who is speaking God's words, doing God's works and fulfilling God's will.
The Son can do nothing of himself - the Son needs the Father's Spirit dwelling in him
The Father has given judgment to the Son - the Son is the man to whom the Father ordained to be a righteous judge.
Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which
he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
He judges not by his own eyes and ears, he judges through the Spirit of the Father that dwells in him.
Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod
out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: 2 And
the Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; 3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and
he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: 4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. 5 And
righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
Ephesians 5:9
For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness and truth
The Father is YHVH who rests His Spirit upon the man Jesus and through that Spirit living in Jesus he is able to be a righteous judge. Likewise when Jesus was on earth it was through the Spirit in him that he was then sent out to speak the Father's word, do the Father's works and fulfill the Father's will.
John 3:34
For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. 35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
Acts 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and
began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;38 How
God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power: who
went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
Luke 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of
the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, 18
The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor;
he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
John 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John:
for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do,
bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.
John 9:4
I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.
John 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not:
the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me...32 Jesus answered them,
Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
John 12:43 For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God. 44
Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. 45 And
he that seeth me seeth him that sent me. 46
I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
We honor the Son as we honor the Father because we are to believe that the Father's Spirit is dwelling in the Son of Man Jesus of Nazareth, for the purpose that he completes all of the Father's will. Isaiah 11 is not yet fulfilled and yet it is a man with YHVH our Father's Spirit dwelling in him that such is fulfilled. Consider how this aligns with Matthew 16:27 "For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds." The glory no doubt would be YHVH's Spirit that is dwelling in Jesus where he is a righteous judge through that Spirit.
Please consider how 1 Chronicles 17 tells us that FIRST there is a son of David and THEN YHVH becomes a Father to him and promises to also settle him into His House, NOT first there is a Son of God already in God's house and then he goes to earth to becomes a son of David.
Next consider the fact that Paul in Romans 8 tells us that we are to be made into the image of the Son and the image that Paul gives us of a Son is for one to be led by the Spirit of God. Was Jesus not led by the Spirit of God once it descended upon him and remained in him at the river Jordan?
Also consider the fact that "the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness and truth" and 1 John 3 teaches that those who are born of God cannot sin.
Then consider and this is HUGE, prophecy from Isaiah 42 is that there would be a man who would receive God's Spirit and BE CALLED TO RIGHTEOUSNESS and be for a LIGHT, that equates to a man being born of God, which would be Jesus of Nazareth at the river Jordan. What did God say immediately after the Spirit descended upon Jesus?..."this is my beloved Son", which would be God's word unto David fulfilled.
Having God's Spirit come to dwell in you is not being born of the Spirit, it is not being born of God? YES IT MOST CERTAINLY IS!! Jesus of Nazareth is the ONLY mortal man to have received the Spirit NOT BY MEASURE. Jesus is the only man to have fulfilled Isaiah 42 being called to righteousness and those that are righteous have been born of God and those who are led by the Spirit of God are a Son of God.
Most certainly the Son of Man who returns in the glory of the Father was in the Father's WORD before the world began, thus meaning that Jesus would rise from the dead and receive a glory that was of the Father before the world was.
Acts 15:18
Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
Isaiah 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, 10
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east,
the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it. 12 Hearken unto me, ye stouthearted, that are far from righteousness: 13 I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.
What is the glory that Jesus received upon his resurrection that had been of the Father for the Son of Man, before the world was?
Acts 2:31 Seeing what was to come, he spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, that he was not abandoned to the realm of the dead, nor did his body see decay. 32 God has raised this Jesus to life, and we are all witnesses of it. 33
Exalted to the right hand of God, he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.
what else is said upon Jesus's resurrection?
Acts 13:32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that
the promise which was made unto the fathers, 33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that
he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. 34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.
So let's get this strait,
The man Jesus was baptized, he was immersed in water and then he received the Holy Spirit. Afterwards he declared that he was the Son of Man and the Son of God. He also declared that a man must be born of water and of the Spirit to enter into God's kingdom. He also declared that his followers would receive his same baptism and that they would drink of the same cup that he drinks of. Then we know that Jesus died but he was resurrected receiving the Promised Spirit and that he was exalted to God's right hand. We also know that God had promised to make a son of David into His own Son and settle him into His House. We also know from Paul that we were all made to drink of the One Spirit and those that are led by the Spirit of God are the Sons of God and that we are to be made into the image of the Son for he is promised to be a firstborn of man brethren.
God's WORD is His promised Spirit to which was made true in the flesh of Jesus of Nazareth at the river Jordan, with that Spirit people beheld his glory as he spoke God's word and did God's works, he was full of grace and truth. He was the only mortal man to have been begotten of God's Spirit without measure.
God, our Heavenly Father YHVH, was in him doing the works and He is still in him to complete all of His will, therefore if you don't honor the Son than you are not honoring the Father.
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