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This seems like a good time to present the truth revealed in this excellent video by Forest Valkai.
Why do some ignore the obvious truth about skin color presented here?
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Why do some ignore the obvious truth about skin color?
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Why do some ignore the obvious truth about skin color?
Post #1To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
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Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
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I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.
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I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.
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Re: Why do some ignore the obvious truth about skin color?
Post #2Why do you believe it is the truth?
My new book can be read freely from here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rIkqxC ... xtqFY/view
Old version can be read from here:
http://web.archive.org/web/202212010403 ... x_eng.html
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rIkqxC ... xtqFY/view
Old version can be read from here:
http://web.archive.org/web/202212010403 ... x_eng.html
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Re: Why do some ignore the obvious truth about skin color?
Post #3Even you would have to admit that it is a better explanation than having to believe in a global flood, while also having to believe that Noah got so drunk that one of his sons was able to sexually assault him, while then also having to believe that everyone on the planet was white at the time, while then having to believe that because of the sex between Noah and one of his sons is what caused his decedents skin to darken, which they then just so happened to then go south where dark skin just so happens to be beneficial.
UV distribution on the planet correlates with skin color and better explains skin color when compared to an explanation that a son sexually assaulting his father.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.
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It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
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Post #4Europeans, less than 10,000 years ago, had dark skins (although many of them had blue eyes). They were my ancestors, even though I'm a (formerly) red-headed, freckled Celto-german according to my DNA. A little more Neanderthal than most, apparently.
I'm thinking that while dark skins were probably selected for where solar exposure was greatest, there was probably a lot of sexual selection going on, depending on a given culture's notion of beauty.
I'm thinking that while dark skins were probably selected for where solar exposure was greatest, there was probably a lot of sexual selection going on, depending on a given culture's notion of beauty.
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Re: Why do some ignore the obvious truth about skin color?
Post #5Marke: Skin color is not the genetic code that has kept humans human since the creation of the first two humans on earth several thousand years ago.
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Post #6Humans were not and are not created. You are simply referring to one of many available religious creation accounts and pretending that it has merit on a debate forum.
Since this is a debate forum, it would be really cool of you to stop stating your personal beliefs as if they are facts. If you hold a belief, please don't merely state it, but provide something that at least might suggest why your personal beliefs should be considered. If you cannot come up with anything that would provide credit for a belief you hold, then you might want to look inward.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
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Re: Why do some ignore the obvious truth about skin color?
Post #7Humans were very obviously created, specifically to be used as individual prison cells, within this prison-planet reform school for the criminally-insane, exactly as we've been told in Scripture, i.e. the text provided to us from our alien/extraterrestrial jailers.
Further, exactly as we have been repeatedly told, WE ARE NOT HUMANS OURSELVES, NOR ARE WE INDIGENOUS TO THIS PLANET.
We are, in fact, SPIRITUAL-BEINGS (aka "angels", "gods" - Ps. 82:6, souls, jinns, etc.). Therefore ALL racism (hatred) is based upon human ignorance of who and what we really are.
It's like hating a driver for the colour of their car.
Are You The Car Or The Driver?
Further, exactly as we have been repeatedly told, WE ARE NOT HUMANS OURSELVES, NOR ARE WE INDIGENOUS TO THIS PLANET.
We are, in fact, SPIRITUAL-BEINGS (aka "angels", "gods" - Ps. 82:6, souls, jinns, etc.). Therefore ALL racism (hatred) is based upon human ignorance of who and what we really are.
It's like hating a driver for the colour of their car.
Are You The Car Or The Driver?
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Re: Why do some ignore the obvious truth about skin color?
Post #8Please show that you speak the truth and we can then see about proceeding further.
I want to make sure you are not just regurgitating a religious belief you happen to hold at us. Please consider how unimpressed you would be to have Muslims state their held religious beliefs at you as if they were factual.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
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Re: Why do some ignore the obvious truth about skin color?
Post #9Excerpt below from the article "Are You The Car Or The Driver?"
What if we started identifying each other by the car that we drive rather than acknowledging ourselves as the driver? And what if, over the passage of time, that practice became so widely accepted that we actually ceased to remember what it meant to be a driver, apart from the car?
Sound impossible?
Well, as they say, the truth is often stranger (to most) than fiction (Isa. 30:10).
The following verses describe the creation of humans, and the placement of spiritual-Beings (Souls) inside of them.
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in His [Own] image, in the Image of God created He him; male and female created He them (the human bodies – our “cars/vessels”).
Genesis 2:7 And the “I AM” God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man (the car) became alive and was given a soul [spirit Being – the “drivers”] (becoming a human+Being; a car+Driver).
Satan, which is Hebrew and means “the Opposer”, has spent 6000+ years programming us to see things his way (upside down and backwards) instead of God’s Way (which is The Right Way/Truth). So it should really come as no surprise that so many choose to look at the gender or skin color of their human-animal body from a worldly/satanic perspective rather than a heavenly/spiritual one.
Hopefully the analogy that follows will help simplify the reality of our situation; that we are in fact spiritual Beings (which have no gender or skin color) who are temporarily imprisoned inside these human-animal bodies (which intentionally do have a gender and skin color for both physical and spiritual purposes), to learn how to control them.
What if we started identifying each other by the car that we drive rather than acknowledging ourselves as the driver? And what if, over the passage of time, that practice became so widely accepted that we actually ceased to remember what it meant to be a driver, apart from the car?
Sound impossible?
Well, as they say, the truth is often stranger (to most) than fiction (Isa. 30:10).
The following verses describe the creation of humans, and the placement of spiritual-Beings (Souls) inside of them.
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in His [Own] image, in the Image of God created He him; male and female created He them (the human bodies – our “cars/vessels”).
Genesis 2:7 And the “I AM” God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man (the car) became alive and was given a soul [spirit Being – the “drivers”] (becoming a human+Being; a car+Driver).
Satan, which is Hebrew and means “the Opposer”, has spent 6000+ years programming us to see things his way (upside down and backwards) instead of God’s Way (which is The Right Way/Truth). So it should really come as no surprise that so many choose to look at the gender or skin color of their human-animal body from a worldly/satanic perspective rather than a heavenly/spiritual one.
Hopefully the analogy that follows will help simplify the reality of our situation; that we are in fact spiritual Beings (which have no gender or skin color) who are temporarily imprisoned inside these human-animal bodies (which intentionally do have a gender and skin color for both physical and spiritual purposes), to learn how to control them.
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Re: Why do some ignore the obvious truth about skin color?
Post #10Clownboat wrote: ↑Fri May 09, 2025 11:18 amHumans were not and are not created. You are simply referring to one of many available religious creation accounts and pretending that it has merit on a debate forum.
Since this is a debate forum, it would be really cool of you to stop stating your personal beliefs as if they are facts.
Marke: Assuming that humans were not created is an unscientific conclusion based on theory not irrefutably supported by scientific data. Those debating on this site should realize that declaring their opinions as facts does not prove their opinions are facts and should not demand that all debate end once the closed-minded declare their personal opinions.
