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Is there a parallel?

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In the 19th century, a movement started among Native Americans which was believed by some to be a way to bring back their former way of life. One of its names was the Ghost Dance, and its participants hoped that performing it widely enough would bring about the disappearance of their white oppressors, the return of the buffalo herds and the restoration of peace and prosperity.

Fast forward to modern times, when "Dominion Theology" has become a significant movement. There are various approaches to it, but one facet is:
Dominion Theology defines the churchs hope to be the establishment of an earthly kingdom instead of the second coming of Christ. Under this view, Christ cannot come back until the church first establishes the millennial kingdom. This kingdom is not simply the rule of God in the hearts of people, but it is to be political, social, and visible. The great commission is redefined: instead of the primary goal being personal evangelism, the churchs mission is to gain control of the world, institution by institution and nation by nation.
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Is Dominion Theology a fundamentalist Christian version of the Ghost Dance?
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Athetotheist wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:15 pm ...
Dominion Theology defines the churchs hope to be the establishment of an earthly kingdom instead of the second coming of Christ. Under this view, Christ cannot come back until the church first establishes the millennial kingdom. This kingdom is not simply the rule of God in the hearts of people, but it is to be political, social, and visible. The great commission is redefined: instead of the primary goal being personal evangelism, the churchs mission is to gain control of the world, institution by institution and nation by nation.
https://www.apostolic.edu/is-dominion-t ... criptural/

Is Dominion Theology a fundamentalist Christian version of the Ghost Dance?
Doesn't seem to be. Dominion theology seems to offer some concrete way to influence, ghost dance was apparently just a dance. Also the goal seems to be different. Ghost dance was to turn back something. Dominion theology (DT) is to bring something new.

But, I think DT is not Christian, because originally a Christian meant a disciple of Jesus. And disciples of Jesus remain in word of Jesus.

The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
Acts 11:26
Jesus therefore said to those Jews who had believed him, "If you remain in my word, then you are truly my disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."
John 8:31-32

This doesn't necessary mean a Christian can't be part of the DT, only that it is not a Christian thing, because it is not what Jesus told people should do.
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Doesn't seem to be. Dominion theology seems to offer some concrete way to influence, ghost dance was apparently just a dance. Also the goal seems to be different. Ghost dance was to turn back something. Dominion theology (DT) is to bring something new.
The point is that Dominionists have taken it upon themselves to bring about the messianic age instead of having faith that the messianic age will come in due course. If they believe that the return of Jesus is inevitable, why do they feel a need to influence it?
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Athetotheist wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:13 am ...If they believe that the return of Jesus is inevitable, why do they feel a need to influence it?
You should ask that from them. But, maybe the reason is that they would like life to be better on earth already.
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You should ask that from them. But, maybe the reason is that they would like life to be better on earth already.
And maybe that's because they know that they're running out of excuses for Jesus not having returned and cognitive dissonance is forcing them to come up with a Plan B.
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Athetotheist wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:38 am [Replying to 1213 in post #4
You should ask that from them. But, maybe the reason is that they would like life to be better on earth already.
And maybe that's because they know that they're running out of excuses for Jesus not having returned and cognitive dissonance is forcing them to come up with a Plan B.
They should not have the need to make excuses. Jesus told that the end comes when the Gospel of the Kingdom is preached in the whole world. Obviously that has not yet happened.

This Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world for a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
Matt. 24:14

That also explains why some people are so much against the preaching of the Gospel.
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Jesus told that the end comes when the Gospel of the Kingdom is preached in the whole world.
...and that his disciples would not go over the cities of Israel before the Son of Man came (Matthew 10:23)....

.....and that the generation he was addressing would not pass away until the Son of Man was seen coming in the clouds of heaven (Matthew 24:34)
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Biblically, Gods kingdom is indeed a real government that will replace this worlds governments and rule over the entire planet earth. Where Dominion Theology departs from biblical teaching is in believing it will come about through the domination of the Church of believers over the the world's institutions.

The bible indicates it will come about when Jesus returns as a mighty spirit king and kills off everyone who opposes his rulership.




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It will come about when Jesus returns as a mighty spirit king and kills off everyone who opposes his rulership.
That's a pretty harsh way to shut down meaningful debate, isn't it?
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There is a parallel between all religious systems. They all provide false hopes of a future that will never come. Political systems can be used the same way. In America we have a both of these wrapped into one deadly package deal from Donald the orange.


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