1213 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:11 am
TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:39 am
You even posted the combined resurrection texts but with the contradictions left out
That is not true, I had every passage from Bible, nothing left out.
I recall clearly that you did.I reposted what you had presented and pointed up the bits you had left out. We can do it again if you want and you can tell me why they do not contradict.
TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:39 amNever mind the mess of denial over the daylight before the sun ...
I am disappointed to you that you still spread lies. I have not said there was not light before the sun.
I am exasperated but not surprised that you are still being crafty by changing (strawmanning) what i said.I said 'daylight', not light. Sure, you had to have light but it was an imitation of daylight by the 'cosmic radiation' (the sun not yet being made, folks, note). Wasn't it? Are you not the one who is not being strag,ht with me, you and everyone else?
TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:39 amThe science is in the geological sequencers order of stratified evidence of animal (and plant) progress in complexity and radiometric dating. Even you don't deny the scientific claim that the world is not flat and fight the Genesis picture of a world that is flat with a dome over.
Everyone with eyes can see that earth is not flat, for example because it has mountains.
Dude, even a flat earth - theory has mountains. The 'stamp seal' simile in the Bible has markings and features on.
Radiometric dating is not useful, because it is based on assumptions that can't be checked.
Of course, not only by different methods of radiometric dating but by stratification, ice cores and C14 dating cross- checks. RATE tried to debunk Radiometric dating and had to accept they had failed. You are in denial of science and not for the first time.
TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:39 amSo the science says Genesis is wrong, and some Believers accept that and try to skip over it as 'Metaphorically true'. e.g 2nd pillar in #2 "Genesis is meant to be reliable, but in the form of parables, whereas only the righteous will be able to have insight" which when translated from Theist to English means "The Bible means whatever we want it to mean".
Science doesn't say "Genesis is wrong", it is the people who have elevated "science" as their god, who make the claims.
Don't pull the "exact words" ploy. It sets out the order of creation and it is wrong according to stratification. The sea life appeared before there was plant life on land. And are you still saying the earth was made before the sun?
Bible means what it explains it means.
It explains nothing; it makes claims (bald statements) which conflict with science, and apologists have to invent stuff to ry to get around it, or deny science altogether.
TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:39 amor leap on the Flat circle (1) and claim it means 'sphere' (which it doesn't, and proclaim 'science in the Bible'.
Circle is not a sphere, but it can be drawn on a sphere.
Yes, but the Bible talks of a circle OF the earth, not ON the earth, and the 'Eden' location (which is where Man was created) from Cush to Mesipotamia (Gen 2 10--14) is hardly a 'circle'.
TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:39 amGenetic modification by getting sheep to stare at a stick
Do you understand that you ruin your credibility by spreading obvious false claims?
I do indeed. But you seem to fail to understand how you ruin yours by doing what you accuse me of. And the striped stick altering the coloration of sheep is well - known Bible nonsense. You will not do your cred damage by being oblivious that I am having a bit of a laugh at the actual Bible story. Which I assumed you knew.
https://answersingenesis.org/genetics/a ... enesis-30/
Now that of course is an apologetics site and tries to explain it. It is improbable. Sheep mate like other animals - when and where and never mind the colour. They do not use drinking venues as a place to mate. Not even humans do that, but go home to do it.