What if Christianity is wrong just like Israel?

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What if Christianity is wrong just like Israel?

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Because Christianity mostly follows Paul it is just as lost as Israel.

Misinterpreting scripture has doomed Christianity and all who embrace it.

“Just as in the days of Noah so shall it be at the coming of the son of man.”

This is possible only if all the religions are wrong?

If Israel failed isn’t it possible Christianity has failed?

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Re: What if Christianity is wrong just like Israel?

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Bobcat wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:13 pm Because Christianity mostly follows Paul it is just as lost as Israel.

Misinterpreting scripture has doomed Christianity and all who embrace it.

“Just as in the days of Noah so shall it be at the coming of the son of man.”

This is possible only if all the religions are wrong?

If Israel failed isn’t it possible Christianity has failed?
How was Israel wrong?

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Bobcat wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:13 pm Because Christianity mostly follows Paul it is just as lost as Israel.

Misinterpreting scripture has doomed Christianity and all who embrace it.

“Just as in the days of Noah so shall it be at the coming of the son of man.”

This is possible only if all the religions are wrong?

If Israel failed isn’t it possible Christianity has failed?
How is Christianity wrong? How is it following Paul? Paul's argument in Romans seems like something we could reason out today.

“Just as in the days of Noah so shall it be at the coming of the son of man.”

This quote is saying that Jesus second coming will be a surprise like the flood was to the world. Those unprepared will be flooded.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Bobcat wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:13 pm Because Christianity mostly follows Paul it is just as lost as Israel.

Misinterpreting scripture has doomed Christianity and all who embrace it.

“Just as in the days of Noah so shall it be at the coming of the son of man.”

This is possible only if all the religions are wrong?

If Israel failed isn’t it possible Christianity has failed?
That people fail is not the same as Israel or Christianity failing. If people reject Christianity and live like in the days of Noah, it doesn't mean Christianity is wrong. If things don't go as said in the Bible, then Christianity may be wrong and then it may have failed.

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Namaskaram 1213

When do we know things don't go as said in the Bible? The Bible has said there would come a worldwide flood in Noahs days. Has there been a worldwide flood? Did things go as said in the Bible? Did Jesus believe in all those stories? Has Christianity failed? For inspiration..
Why have Jesus' simple love teachings been lost in the Christian religions?

First and foremost because man lives in a world that is darkened by the impermanent. Many people only believe what they see and experience on a daily basis. What really binds us together, the spiritual reality, we learn nothing about, even though this was Jesus' main message; the love of and from God, the love of our fellow men! It is a spiritual reality that we can also experience here in the face of our fellow human beings.
The external worship became more important than the internal. How and when we pray became more important than the meeting itself in a spiritual community. Because we do not need a church building to turn to God, We do not need priests who don't know the truth, but stand and repeat centuries of lies about God who sacrificed his son to save the rest of us from perdition. Those who still believe in these fairy tales that the church's false servants tell about God and the life of Jesus, are deceived and allow themselves to be deceived and are brainwashed to believe that they themselves are not responsible for everything they do! Yes, what father allows one of his children to suffer for what the other children do!
The churches and religions exist to have power over man, not to tell truths about our spiritual reality. But these truths are available to anyone who seeks with an honest desire to understand the context of why man lives in this world of suffering in a physical mortal body.
The church and religions have out played their role for enlightened people who seek the truth outside the domain of fairy tales and superstition.
Jesus' second coming has happened, his speech to humanity is found in the message "Toward the Light!" and everyone who honestly seeks answers to why man lives here on Earth, yes, why earthly life behaves as it does, will find the truth there!
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Bobcat wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:13 pm Because Christianity mostly follows Paul ...
If the holy spirit inspired Paul to write more than half of the books of the Christian Scriptures, why do you want to pretend that the holy spirit failed on doing that?

Peter recognized that Paul's wisdom came from God, and mentioned his letters:

2 Pet. 3:15 Furthermore, consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you according to the wisdom given him, 16 speaking about these things as he does in all his letters. However, some things in them are hard to understand, and these things the ignorant and unstable are twisting, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Who are you to despise Paul?

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Bobcat wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:13 pm If Israel failed isn’t it possible Christianity has failed?


Israel falls into two camps.

First (1) there are the biblical references
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I can set these verses aside and look at the here and now.
Second (2) In the here and now I found this------
Modern day Israelis ignore the above, believing they are above His rule.

The Israeli IDF sniper teams have murdered hundreds of Palestinian children
https://tinyurl.com/32yekhjk
Israelis destroy Palestinian homes and murder whoever is inside
https://tinyurl.com/47s4nm28
Israelis destroy Palestinian fishing boats cutting off needed food for its people
https://tinyurl.com/4a8zj84c
For Your Eyes Only
https://tinyurl.com/36v8w22f

Israelis were the “first” to engage in terrorists’ acts
Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
The Assassination of Lord Moyne on JSTOR
Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.
King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia
The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.
1946 British Embassy bombing - Wikipedia
A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs.

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Eloi wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:53 am
Bobcat wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:13 pm Because Christianity mostly follows Paul ...
If the holy spirit inspired Paul to write more than half of the books of the Christian Scriptures, why do you want to pretend that the holy spirit failed on doing that?

Peter recognized that Paul's wisdom came from God, and mentioned his letters:

2 Pet. 3:15 Furthermore, consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you according to the wisdom given him, 16 speaking about these things as he does in all his letters. However, some things in them are hard to understand, and these things the ignorant and unstable are twisting, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Who are you to despise Paul?
I know for sure Paul was not inspired. There is no way Jesus sent Him unlike Himself. Jesus sent His followers just as He was sent. Just as all the prophets have been sent, to spread God’s word.

Christianity missed the message just like Israel.

“The one who enters through the gate is the shepherd of the sheep.”

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Bobcat wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:13 pm
Eloi wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:53 am
Bobcat wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:13 pm Because Christianity mostly follows Paul ...
If the holy spirit inspired Paul to write more than half of the books of the Christian Scriptures, why do you want to pretend that the holy spirit failed on doing that?

Peter recognized that Paul's wisdom came from God, and mentioned his letters:

2 Pet. 3:15 Furthermore, consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you according to the wisdom given him, 16 speaking about these things as he does in all his letters. However, some things in them are hard to understand, and these things the ignorant and unstable are twisting, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Who are you to despise Paul?
I know for sure Paul was not inspired. There is no way Jesus sent Him unlike Himself. Jesus sent His followers just as He was sent. Just as all the prophets have been sent, to spread God’s word.

Christianity missed the message just like Israel.

“The one who enters through the gate is the shepherd of the sheep.”
In this forum section you can't question the authority of the Bible - it's only for Christians to argue their authority to tell other people what the Bible says... authoritatively. You'd think in a forum section where everyone has agreed to take the word of the Bible as-is, there wouldn't be disagreement... but, there is. Christians love to tell other Christians what the true authoritative commands are in the Bible - and they can't be bothered by people questioning how they determined it's authoritative. They need to start with that caveat.
Just like all other religions: Christians need everyone to ignore their religion is questionable. How else can they try to tell everyone what to do?!?
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A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew
God gave a secret, and denied it me?
Well, well—what matters it? Believe that, too!”
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Waterfall wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:26 am When do we know things don't go as said in the Bible?
When they don't go, then you know. :)
Waterfall wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:26 amThe Bible has said there would come a worldwide flood in Noahs days. Has there been a worldwide flood? Did things go as said in the Bible? Did Jesus believe in all those stories?
I believe there was the flood. And I believe Jesus knew those things happened.

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