What About the Sea Creatures?

[Skeptical]

I know that JWs believe in a Paradise on Earth. And I know that some of the Bible verses that they base their beliefs on are Genesis 1:28-30 in conjunction with Isaiah 11:6-9 and Revelation 21:1-4. However, I would like to ask JWs and other Christians who have the belief in paradise earth: What about the sea creatures?

Because even in the Bible, the dangerous and ferocious creature Leviathan was created by God according to Psalm 104:24-26. Plus, according to science, there are other dangerous and ferocious creatures that God created such as sharks. But in all fairness, I would like to post this 2 minute and 8 seconds video, which puts sharks in the best light possible.



However, if that was too long for you, I have this 51 second video, which features characteristics that only a Creator God could create. (Hebrews 3:4 and Revelation 4:11)



Therefore, are the scriptures that mention total peace in the human kingdom and the animal kingdom only referring to land creatures? And do those verses exclude the sea creatures? Because I don't quite get it.

But here is another example of the electric eel in this 2 minute and 25 second video, even though there are many, many more dangerous and predatory sea creatures such as this.

[JehovahsWitness]

You ignored what I said in my post #44 ...:

... that ...eating meat was bad... and that it will be bad again during JWs' new system. (Yes, No?)

MY RESPONSE IS AS FOLLOWS : I do not believe eating meat is bad and I do not know if we will eat meat in the new system. The Watchtower to the best of my knowledge has not unlisted a definitive answer to that question.



JEHOVAH’S WITNESS

[Skeptical]

You ignored what I said in my post #44 about:

because basically what I was saying was that God DID change his own laws and his own standards as found in Genesis 9:3. Because his original standards was the eating meat was bad... . (Yes, No?)

Okay here is my response to the above (from post #44): My response to is the above is as follows.

No.


I will now explain why I say "No": There was no law to prohibit eating animals prior to the flood in Noahs day. God had stated that fruit and plants were given to man for food and that continues to be the case to this day . Since there was no mention if animals being given as food, its a fair to presume that it was not God's original purpose animals be eaten, but there was no prohibitive law to change since no law had been given.

That said , divine laws come and go according to circumstances, divine PRINCIPLES remain constant.

If by standards you mean what God considers right and wrong , then they too remain constant. It is (and always will be) wrong to take a life without divine permission to do so. What God allows humans to eat may vary according to population and circumstances but the principle is that all life belongs to him and all life (including animal life) is sacred so killing (humans or animals) are subject to his permission.



JW

So, what it sounds like you're saying (to me) is that God has principles about killing, fornication, and predation being wrong... however, as long as he gives permission to do any of those things, then those things become right?

[Skeptical]

I guess you're saying that God performed some sort of miraculous surgery on the animals right after Noah's flood?

Where did I say that? Please produce the post where I said "God performed some sort of miraculous surgery on the animals right after Noah's flood"

... It's just like when you ask me a question like: Are you saying this or that?

Oh okay, am I saying that.... ? My answer is : No I am not saying that.

Well, thank you. (Finally. )

[JehovahsWitness]

So, what it sounds like you're saying (to me) is that God has principles about killing, fornication, and predation being wrong... however, as long as he gives permission to do any of those things, then those things become right?

No, that is not what I am saying (to you).

[Skeptical]

You ignored what I said in my post #44 ...:

... that ...eating meat was bad... and that it will be bad again during JWs' new system. (Yes, No?)

MY RESPONSE IS AS FOLLOWS : I do not believe eating meat is bad and I do not know if we will eat meat in the new system. The Watchtower to the best of my knowledge has not unlisted a definitive answer to that question.



JEHOVAH’S WITNESS

Um, but getting back to the topic, you sure did make a big deal about how animals eating meat in the new system (i.e predation) would be bad and won't be allowed. Unless it will be allowed for the sea creatures since Isaiah 11:6-9 doesn't mention anything about sea creature predation violence not being allowed.

[Skeptical]

So, what it sounds like you're saying (to me) is that God has principles about killing, fornication, and predation being wrong... however, as long as he gives permission to do any of those things, then those things become right?

No, that is not what I am saying (to you).

But that's exactly what it sounded like you were saying in your POST #57. However, you just framed it differently. Plus, I think that most people can see that if they click on the link that I provided.

[JehovahsWitness]

...you sure did make a big deal about how animals eating meat in the new system (i.e predation) would be bad and won't be allowed.

Where did I say that? Please prove that I wrote "animals eating meat in the new system (i.e predation) would be bad and won't be allowed" I never wrote that.


JW

[JehovahsWitness]

But that's exactly what it sounded like you were saying in your POST #57

That's not what it sounded like to me.

[JehovahsWitness]

... however, as long as he gives permission to do any of those things, then those things become right?

No, they permissible.

God has principles about killing and predation but not that such things are wrong, only that all life belongs to him and no life should be deliberately taken without his express permission. Animals are not moral beings so their behaviour cannot be categorised as "right" or "wrong"... just instinctive.

Fornication has never come under such a category and always violates divine law and principle.

[JehovahsWitness]

Well, thank you. ...

You are most welcome; my pleasure.