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The coming of Gods kingdom is good news for all creation. A complete reversal of this satan ruled system of things. No more war, hatred, fear, pain. sickness, diseases, starvation, infirmities, no greed, cheating on mates, drug addiction, drunkeness, No mourning, outcries, even death will be no more( Rev 21:4) etc,etc= a cure all for what ails mortal existence. During Jesus 1000 year reign, satan is abyssed, the earth will be transformed into an Eden(paradise) a resurrection of dead loved ones who get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will and get their names written in Gods book of life. Mortals made back to perfection, not aging like now. All created living things living in perfect harmony(Isaiah 11) But then satan gets loosed for a little while and all rebels(Gog from Magog( Rev 20:8) get rooted out, and death, Hades( grave) satan and his angels and Gog from Magog get destroyed in the lake of fire. Then Gods kingdom in full control forever, never again anything like this satan ruled system will occur. pure happiness, all motives of mortal hearts from love not profit seeking.
Gaining entrance into that kingdom has more value than all the wealth combined on earth. One must live to do Jesus' Fathers will now over their own will( Matt 7:21)
Like this-Matt 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Then one can accomplish this-John 4:22-24

Will you live for entrance into Gods kingdom?

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kjw47 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:17 pm The coming of Gods kingdom is good news for all creation. A complete reversal of this satan ruled system of things. No more war, hatred, fear, pain. sickness, diseases, starvation, infirmities, no greed, cheating on mates, drug addiction, drunkeness, No mourning, outcries, even death will be no more( Rev 21:4) etc,etc= a cure all for what ails mortal existence. During Jesus 1000 year reign, satan is abyssed, the earth will be transformed into an Eden(paradise) a resurrection of dead loved ones who get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will and get their names written in Gods book of life. Mortals made back to perfection, not aging like now. All created living things living in perfect harmony(Isaiah 11) But then satan gets loosed for a little while and all rebels(Gog from Magog( Rev 20:8) get rooted out, and death, Hades( grave) satan and his angels and Gog from Magog get destroyed in the lake of fire. Then Gods kingdom in full control forever, never again anything like this satan ruled system will occur. pure happiness, all motives of mortal hearts from love not profit seeking.
Gaining entrance into that kingdom has more value than all the wealth combined on earth. One must live to do Jesus' Fathers will now over their own will( Matt 7:21)
Like this-Matt 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Then one can accomplish this-John 4:22-24

Will you live for entrance into Gods kingdom?
Your timing seems to be a bit off. Rev 21:4 is post millennium, whereas all not written in the book of life, such as the elect, will not be there. And pre post millennium, everyone will die (Jeremiah 31;30), even those who survive into the millennium, but they will either live to be 100 years old or be deemed accursed (Isaiah 65:20). As for sickness during the millennium, there will be leaves of the "tree of life" for healing (Rev 22:2). The problem is that the "wicked" will not be let in the gates (Rev 22:14-15). Matt 6:33 is for the here and now, not for after you die. If you are having trouble finding the kingdom, whereas God provides for you everything you need, then I suggest you follow Yeshua's message, which was to keep the Commandments to enter into life, and if you seek perfection, sell all you have and give it to the poor. As for the nations/Gentiles, during the millennium, they will be ruled with a "rod of iron" (Rev 19:15).

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2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:56 am
kjw47 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:17 pm The coming of Gods kingdom is good news for all creation. A complete reversal of this satan ruled system of things. No more war, hatred, fear, pain. sickness, diseases, starvation, infirmities, no greed, cheating on mates, drug addiction, drunkeness, No mourning, outcries, even death will be no more( Rev 21:4) etc,etc= a cure all for what ails mortal existence. During Jesus 1000 year reign, satan is abyssed, the earth will be transformed into an Eden(paradise) a resurrection of dead loved ones who get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will and get their names written in Gods book of life. Mortals made back to perfection, not aging like now. All created living things living in perfect harmony(Isaiah 11) But then satan gets loosed for a little while and all rebels(Gog from Magog( Rev 20:8) get rooted out, and death, Hades( grave) satan and his angels and Gog from Magog get destroyed in the lake of fire. Then Gods kingdom in full control forever, never again anything like this satan ruled system will occur. pure happiness, all motives of mortal hearts from love not profit seeking.
Gaining entrance into that kingdom has more value than all the wealth combined on earth. One must live to do Jesus' Fathers will now over their own will( Matt 7:21)
Like this-Matt 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Then one can accomplish this-John 4:22-24

Will you live for entrance into Gods kingdom?
Your timing seems to be a bit off. Rev 21:4 is post millennium, whereas all not written in the book of life, such as the elect, will not be there. And pre post millennium, everyone will die (Jeremiah 31;30), even those who survive into the millennium, but they will either live to be 100 years old or be deemed accursed (Isaiah 65:20). As for sickness during the millennium, there will be leaves of the "tree of life" for healing (Rev 22:2). The problem is that the "wicked" will not be let in the gates (Rev 22:14-15). Matt 6:33 is for the here and now, not for after you die. If you are having trouble finding the kingdom, whereas God provides for you everything you need, then I suggest you follow Yeshua's message, which was to keep the Commandments to enter into life, and if you seek perfection, sell all you have and give it to the poor. As for the nations/Gentiles, during the millennium, they will be ruled with a "rod of iron" (Rev 19:15).
Hi, I know Matt 6:33 is for now. And i know Rev 21:4 is after satan is loosed for a little while then destroyed along with Death and the grave( Hades)-- All will go back to perfection by the end of the 1000 year reign. The wages of sin =death. At death one is aquitted of all past sin( Romans 6:7) The resurrected( righteous and unrighteous) will get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will during the 1000 year reign of Christ. Not all will stand when satan is loosed( Rev 20:8)--all rebels are then rooted out, and once satan is destroyed all things are perfect, and this is what Jesus hands back to his God and Father, then subjects himself-1Cor 15:24-28= New heavens and new earth=Gods kingdom in full control forever.

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kjw47 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:05 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:56 am
kjw47 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:17 pm The coming of Gods kingdom is good news for all creation. A complete reversal of this satan ruled system of things. No more war, hatred, fear, pain. sickness, diseases, starvation, infirmities, no greed, cheating on mates, drug addiction, drunkeness, No mourning, outcries, even death will be no more( Rev 21:4) etc,etc= a cure all for what ails mortal existence. During Jesus 1000 year reign, satan is abyssed, the earth will be transformed into an Eden(paradise) a resurrection of dead loved ones who get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will and get their names written in Gods book of life. Mortals made back to perfection, not aging like now. All created living things living in perfect harmony(Isaiah 11) But then satan gets loosed for a little while and all rebels(Gog from Magog( Rev 20:8) get rooted out, and death, Hades( grave) satan and his angels and Gog from Magog get destroyed in the lake of fire. Then Gods kingdom in full control forever, never again anything like this satan ruled system will occur. pure happiness, all motives of mortal hearts from love not profit seeking.
Gaining entrance into that kingdom has more value than all the wealth combined on earth. One must live to do Jesus' Fathers will now over their own will( Matt 7:21)
Like this-Matt 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Then one can accomplish this-John 4:22-24

Will you live for entrance into Gods kingdom?
Your timing seems to be a bit off. Rev 21:4 is post millennium, whereas all not written in the book of life, such as the elect, will not be there. And pre post millennium, everyone will die (Jeremiah 31;30), even those who survive into the millennium, but they will either live to be 100 years old or be deemed accursed (Isaiah 65:20). As for sickness during the millennium, there will be leaves of the "tree of life" for healing (Rev 22:2). The problem is that the "wicked" will not be let in the gates (Rev 22:14-15). Matt 6:33 is for the here and now, not for after you die. If you are having trouble finding the kingdom, whereas God provides for you everything you need, then I suggest you follow Yeshua's message, which was to keep the Commandments to enter into life, and if you seek perfection, sell all you have and give it to the poor. As for the nations/Gentiles, during the millennium, they will be ruled with a "rod of iron" (Rev 19:15).
Hi, I know Matt 6:33 is for now. And i know Rev 21:4 is after satan is loosed for a little while then destroyed along with Death and the grave( Hades)-- All will go back to perfection by the end of the 1000 year reign. The wages of sin =death. At death one is aquitted of all past sin( Romans 6:7) The resurrected( righteous and unrighteous) will get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will during the 1000 year reign of Christ. Not all will stand when satan is loosed( Rev 20:8)--all rebels are then rooted out, and once satan is destroyed all things are perfect, and this is what Jesus hands back to his God and Father, then subjects himself-1Cor 15:24-28= New heavens and new earth=Gods kingdom in full control forever.
You made several incorrect statements, probably influenced by the false statements of the false prophet Paul. Hopefully I address most of them. According to Yeshua in Mt 19;21-21, if you want to become perfect, first keep the Commandments, and then sell all your possessions and give the proceeds to the poor. This is to be done in the here and now. If you just want to "enter into life" just keep the Commandments. And death is the consequence of one's iniquities/sin. No one is acquitted (escapes death), much less the foremost sinner, Paul. Paul and his contemporary listeners are all dead. "Everyone will die for their own iniquities" (Jer 31:30). Only the righteous, and those who didn't take on the mark of the beast will arise from the grave "immediately" after the "great tribulation" (Mt 24:29-31) & (Rev 20:4). The LORD God first judges the "fat shepherds", and between one sheep and another, then he sets David over the sheep (Ez 34:16 & 20-24). The coming "kingdom" is where God judges the world (Har-Magedon)(Day of the LORD)(Joel 2:31-32), and then combines Judah and Ephraim together on the land given to Jacob under the leadership of David, which corresponds with the millennium (EZ 37).

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2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:02 pm
kjw47 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:05 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:56 am
kjw47 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:17 pm The coming of Gods kingdom is good news for all creation. A complete reversal of this satan ruled system of things. No more war, hatred, fear, pain. sickness, diseases, starvation, infirmities, no greed, cheating on mates, drug addiction, drunkeness, No mourning, outcries, even death will be no more( Rev 21:4) etc,etc= a cure all for what ails mortal existence. During Jesus 1000 year reign, satan is abyssed, the earth will be transformed into an Eden(paradise) a resurrection of dead loved ones who get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will and get their names written in Gods book of life. Mortals made back to perfection, not aging like now. All created living things living in perfect harmony(Isaiah 11) But then satan gets loosed for a little while and all rebels(Gog from Magog( Rev 20:8) get rooted out, and death, Hades( grave) satan and his angels and Gog from Magog get destroyed in the lake of fire. Then Gods kingdom in full control forever, never again anything like this satan ruled system will occur. pure happiness, all motives of mortal hearts from love not profit seeking.
Gaining entrance into that kingdom has more value than all the wealth combined on earth. One must live to do Jesus' Fathers will now over their own will( Matt 7:21)
Like this-Matt 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Then one can accomplish this-John 4:22-24

Will you live for entrance into Gods kingdom?
Your timing seems to be a bit off. Rev 21:4 is post millennium, whereas all not written in the book of life, such as the elect, will not be there. And pre post millennium, everyone will die (Jeremiah 31;30), even those who survive into the millennium, but they will either live to be 100 years old or be deemed accursed (Isaiah 65:20). As for sickness during the millennium, there will be leaves of the "tree of life" for healing (Rev 22:2). The problem is that the "wicked" will not be let in the gates (Rev 22:14-15). Matt 6:33 is for the here and now, not for after you die. If you are having trouble finding the kingdom, whereas God provides for you everything you need, then I suggest you follow Yeshua's message, which was to keep the Commandments to enter into life, and if you seek perfection, sell all you have and give it to the poor. As for the nations/Gentiles, during the millennium, they will be ruled with a "rod of iron" (Rev 19:15).
Hi, I know Matt 6:33 is for now. And i know Rev 21:4 is after satan is loosed for a little while then destroyed along with Death and the grave( Hades)-- All will go back to perfection by the end of the 1000 year reign. The wages of sin =death. At death one is aquitted of all past sin( Romans 6:7) The resurrected( righteous and unrighteous) will get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will during the 1000 year reign of Christ. Not all will stand when satan is loosed( Rev 20:8)--all rebels are then rooted out, and once satan is destroyed all things are perfect, and this is what Jesus hands back to his God and Father, then subjects himself-1Cor 15:24-28= New heavens and new earth=Gods kingdom in full control forever.
You made several incorrect statements, probably influenced by the false statements of the false prophet Paul. Hopefully I address most of them. According to Yeshua in Mt 19;21-21, if you want to become perfect, first keep the Commandments, and then sell all your possessions and give the proceeds to the poor. This is to be done in the here and now. If you just want to "enter into life" just keep the Commandments. And death is the consequence of one's iniquities/sin. No one is acquitted (escapes death), much less the foremost sinner, Paul. Paul and his contemporary listeners are all dead. "Everyone will die for their own iniquities" (Jer 31:30). Only the righteous, and those who didn't take on the mark of the beast will arise from the grave "immediately" after the "great tribulation" (Mt 24:29-31) & (Rev 20:4). The LORD God first judges the "fat shepherds", and between one sheep and another, then he sets David over the sheep (Ez 34:16 & 20-24). The coming "kingdom" is where God judges the world (Har-Magedon)(Day of the LORD)(Joel 2:31-32), and then combines Judah and Ephraim together on the land given to Jacob under the leadership of David, which corresponds with the millennium (EZ 37).

No one can be perfect in this sinful state of being. Only during the 1000 year reign after Armageddon with no satan influences until he is loosed. Perfect like Adam and Eve started. Yet they fell in their perfect state as did 1/3 of the angels.
Jesus commisioned Paul. God used Paul's writings because God inspired the words. Its God and Jesus you are speaking against saying Paul is a false prophet. Luke 10:16)
No one escapes death, but at death all sin is aquitted. ( Rom 6:7)One paid in full the wages of sin at death.

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kjw47 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:23 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:02 pm
kjw47 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:05 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:56 am
kjw47 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:17 pm The coming of Gods kingdom is good news for all creation. A complete reversal of this satan ruled system of things. No more war, hatred, fear, pain. sickness, diseases, starvation, infirmities, no greed, cheating on mates, drug addiction, drunkeness, No mourning, outcries, even death will be no more( Rev 21:4) etc,etc= a cure all for what ails mortal existence. During Jesus 1000 year reign, satan is abyssed, the earth will be transformed into an Eden(paradise) a resurrection of dead loved ones who get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will and get their names written in Gods book of life. Mortals made back to perfection, not aging like now. All created living things living in perfect harmony(Isaiah 11) But then satan gets loosed for a little while and all rebels(Gog from Magog( Rev 20:8) get rooted out, and death, Hades( grave) satan and his angels and Gog from Magog get destroyed in the lake of fire. Then Gods kingdom in full control forever, never again anything like this satan ruled system will occur. pure happiness, all motives of mortal hearts from love not profit seeking.
Gaining entrance into that kingdom has more value than all the wealth combined on earth. One must live to do Jesus' Fathers will now over their own will( Matt 7:21)
Like this-Matt 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Then one can accomplish this-John 4:22-24

Will you live for entrance into Gods kingdom?
Your timing seems to be a bit off. Rev 21:4 is post millennium, whereas all not written in the book of life, such as the elect, will not be there. And pre post millennium, everyone will die (Jeremiah 31;30), even those who survive into the millennium, but they will either live to be 100 years old or be deemed accursed (Isaiah 65:20). As for sickness during the millennium, there will be leaves of the "tree of life" for healing (Rev 22:2). The problem is that the "wicked" will not be let in the gates (Rev 22:14-15). Matt 6:33 is for the here and now, not for after you die. If you are having trouble finding the kingdom, whereas God provides for you everything you need, then I suggest you follow Yeshua's message, which was to keep the Commandments to enter into life, and if you seek perfection, sell all you have and give it to the poor. As for the nations/Gentiles, during the millennium, they will be ruled with a "rod of iron" (Rev 19:15).
Hi, I know Matt 6:33 is for now. And i know Rev 21:4 is after satan is loosed for a little while then destroyed along with Death and the grave( Hades)-- All will go back to perfection by the end of the 1000 year reign. The wages of sin =death. At death one is aquitted of all past sin( Romans 6:7) The resurrected( righteous and unrighteous) will get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will during the 1000 year reign of Christ. Not all will stand when satan is loosed( Rev 20:8)--all rebels are then rooted out, and once satan is destroyed all things are perfect, and this is what Jesus hands back to his God and Father, then subjects himself-1Cor 15:24-28= New heavens and new earth=Gods kingdom in full control forever.
You made several incorrect statements, probably influenced by the false statements of the false prophet Paul. Hopefully I address most of them. According to Yeshua in Mt 19;21-21, if you want to become perfect, first keep the Commandments, and then sell all your possessions and give the proceeds to the poor. This is to be done in the here and now. If you just want to "enter into life" just keep the Commandments. And death is the consequence of one's iniquities/sin. No one is acquitted (escapes death), much less the foremost sinner, Paul. Paul and his contemporary listeners are all dead. "Everyone will die for their own iniquities" (Jer 31:30). Only the righteous, and those who didn't take on the mark of the beast will arise from the grave "immediately" after the "great tribulation" (Mt 24:29-31) & (Rev 20:4). The LORD God first judges the "fat shepherds", and between one sheep and another, then he sets David over the sheep (Ez 34:16 & 20-24). The coming "kingdom" is where God judges the world (Har-Magedon)(Day of the LORD)(Joel 2:31-32), and then combines Judah and Ephraim together on the land given to Jacob under the leadership of David, which corresponds with the millennium (EZ 37).

No one can be perfect in this sinful state of being. Only during the 1000 year reign after Armageddon with no satan influences until he is loosed. Perfect like Adam and Eve started. Yet they fell in their perfect state as did 1/3 of the angels.
Jesus commisioned Paul. God used Paul's writings because God inspired the words. Its God and Jesus you are speaking against saying Paul is a false prophet. Luke 10:16)
No one escapes death, but at death all sin is aquitted. ( Rom 6:7)One paid in full the wages of sin at death.
A better quote from the false prophet Paul per Romans 6:7, is "for he who has died is freed from sin". Which in a sense is somewhat true, in that one is freed from everything but rot and the worms in the grave. One is not forgiven their sin in the grave. They must wait for the white throne judgment, when everyone comes out of their graves and is judged for their deeds (Rev 20:12). Yeshua's message was that one must be "born again", born of the seed of God, the Word of God, and to do this, one must die to oneself and be baptized in the Spirit, at which time, one cannot sin (1 John 3:9). Those that sin are the sons of the devil (1 John 3:8). As for what Yeshua said about Paul, was that if anyone says he is in the wilderness, such as Paul did, "do not believe them". (Mt 24:26). Apparently, according to Yeshua, to become "perfect"/"complete", one must first take the first steps, which is to keep the Commandments, which is to not sin, sell your possessions and give the proceeds to the poor, and "follow me" (Mt 19). Following Paul is like following Dorothy down the rabbit hole. The "false prophets" (Mt 7:13-15) must come, but woe to those who follow them to "destruction".

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2ndpillar2 wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:06 am
kjw47 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:23 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:02 pm
kjw47 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 4:05 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:56 am
kjw47 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:17 pm The coming of Gods kingdom is good news for all creation. A complete reversal of this satan ruled system of things. No more war, hatred, fear, pain. sickness, diseases, starvation, infirmities, no greed, cheating on mates, drug addiction, drunkeness, No mourning, outcries, even death will be no more( Rev 21:4) etc,etc= a cure all for what ails mortal existence. During Jesus 1000 year reign, satan is abyssed, the earth will be transformed into an Eden(paradise) a resurrection of dead loved ones who get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will and get their names written in Gods book of life. Mortals made back to perfection, not aging like now. All created living things living in perfect harmony(Isaiah 11) But then satan gets loosed for a little while and all rebels(Gog from Magog( Rev 20:8) get rooted out, and death, Hades( grave) satan and his angels and Gog from Magog get destroyed in the lake of fire. Then Gods kingdom in full control forever, never again anything like this satan ruled system will occur. pure happiness, all motives of mortal hearts from love not profit seeking.
Gaining entrance into that kingdom has more value than all the wealth combined on earth. One must live to do Jesus' Fathers will now over their own will( Matt 7:21)
Like this-Matt 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Then one can accomplish this-John 4:22-24

Will you live for entrance into Gods kingdom?
Your timing seems to be a bit off. Rev 21:4 is post millennium, whereas all not written in the book of life, such as the elect, will not be there. And pre post millennium, everyone will die (Jeremiah 31;30), even those who survive into the millennium, but they will either live to be 100 years old or be deemed accursed (Isaiah 65:20). As for sickness during the millennium, there will be leaves of the "tree of life" for healing (Rev 22:2). The problem is that the "wicked" will not be let in the gates (Rev 22:14-15). Matt 6:33 is for the here and now, not for after you die. If you are having trouble finding the kingdom, whereas God provides for you everything you need, then I suggest you follow Yeshua's message, which was to keep the Commandments to enter into life, and if you seek perfection, sell all you have and give it to the poor. As for the nations/Gentiles, during the millennium, they will be ruled with a "rod of iron" (Rev 19:15).
Hi, I know Matt 6:33 is for now. And i know Rev 21:4 is after satan is loosed for a little while then destroyed along with Death and the grave( Hades)-- All will go back to perfection by the end of the 1000 year reign. The wages of sin =death. At death one is aquitted of all past sin( Romans 6:7) The resurrected( righteous and unrighteous) will get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will during the 1000 year reign of Christ. Not all will stand when satan is loosed( Rev 20:8)--all rebels are then rooted out, and once satan is destroyed all things are perfect, and this is what Jesus hands back to his God and Father, then subjects himself-1Cor 15:24-28= New heavens and new earth=Gods kingdom in full control forever.
You made several incorrect statements, probably influenced by the false statements of the false prophet Paul. Hopefully I address most of them. According to Yeshua in Mt 19;21-21, if you want to become perfect, first keep the Commandments, and then sell all your possessions and give the proceeds to the poor. This is to be done in the here and now. If you just want to "enter into life" just keep the Commandments. And death is the consequence of one's iniquities/sin. No one is acquitted (escapes death), much less the foremost sinner, Paul. Paul and his contemporary listeners are all dead. "Everyone will die for their own iniquities" (Jer 31:30). Only the righteous, and those who didn't take on the mark of the beast will arise from the grave "immediately" after the "great tribulation" (Mt 24:29-31) & (Rev 20:4). The LORD God first judges the "fat shepherds", and between one sheep and another, then he sets David over the sheep (Ez 34:16 & 20-24). The coming "kingdom" is where God judges the world (Har-Magedon)(Day of the LORD)(Joel 2:31-32), and then combines Judah and Ephraim together on the land given to Jacob under the leadership of David, which corresponds with the millennium (EZ 37).

No one can be perfect in this sinful state of being. Only during the 1000 year reign after Armageddon with no satan influences until he is loosed. Perfect like Adam and Eve started. Yet they fell in their perfect state as did 1/3 of the angels.
Jesus commisioned Paul. God used Paul's writings because God inspired the words. Its God and Jesus you are speaking against saying Paul is a false prophet. Luke 10:16)
No one escapes death, but at death all sin is aquitted. ( Rom 6:7)One paid in full the wages of sin at death.
A better quote from the false prophet Paul per Romans 6:7, is "for he who has died is freed from sin". Which in a sense is somewhat true, in that one is freed from everything but rot and the worms in the grave. One is not forgiven their sin in the grave. They must wait for the white throne judgment, when everyone comes out of their graves and is judged for their deeds (Rev 20:12). Yeshua's message was that one must be "born again", born of the seed of God, the Word of God, and to do this, one must die to oneself and be baptized in the Spirit, at which time, one cannot sin (1 John 3:9). Those that sin are the sons of the devil (1 John 3:8). As for what Yeshua said about Paul, was that if anyone says he is in the wilderness, such as Paul did, "do not believe them". (Mt 24:26). Apparently, according to Yeshua, to become "perfect"/"complete", one must first take the first steps, which is to keep the Commandments, which is to not sin, sell your possessions and give the proceeds to the poor, and "follow me" (Mt 19). Following Paul is like following Dorothy down the rabbit hole. The "false prophets" (Mt 7:13-15) must come, but woe to those who follow them to "destruction".

You err, In the resurrection to life or judgement, those have already paid the wages of sin= death. Those get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. Rev 20:12 shows the scroll of life being opened, all those who remained faithful after satan was loosed get their name written in that scroll, those who didnt( Rev 20:8) get judged to eternal destruction.
God is a God of justice, there would be 0 sense resurrecting the wicked just to tell them they must die forever when they are already dead. It would make no sense.
All sin even the righteous. The wicked practice sin.( work iniquity) Matt 7:22-23

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Re: Good news

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kjw47 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:17 pm The coming of Gods kingdom is good news for all creation. A complete reversal of this satan ruled system of things. No more war, hatred, fear, pain. sickness, diseases, starvation, infirmities, no greed, cheating on mates, drug addiction, drunkeness, No mourning, outcries, even death will be no more( Rev 21:4) etc,etc= a cure all for what ails mortal existence.
Mortal existence totally ceases following completion of the great white throne final judgment!

There is no more mortal death, pain, war, hatred, starvation, or anything mortal -- because there are no more mortals!

The age of man is over.

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Re: Good news

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kjw47 wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:21 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 10:06 am
kjw47 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:23 pm
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2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:56 am
kjw47 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:17 pm The coming of Gods kingdom is good news for all creation. A complete reversal of this satan ruled system of things. No more war, hatred, fear, pain. sickness, diseases, starvation, infirmities, no greed, cheating on mates, drug addiction, drunkeness, No mourning, outcries, even death will be no more( Rev 21:4) etc,etc= a cure all for what ails mortal existence. During Jesus 1000 year reign, satan is abyssed, the earth will be transformed into an Eden(paradise) a resurrection of dead loved ones who get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will and get their names written in Gods book of life. Mortals made back to perfection, not aging like now. All created living things living in perfect harmony(Isaiah 11) But then satan gets loosed for a little while and all rebels(Gog from Magog( Rev 20:8) get rooted out, and death, Hades( grave) satan and his angels and Gog from Magog get destroyed in the lake of fire. Then Gods kingdom in full control forever, never again anything like this satan ruled system will occur. pure happiness, all motives of mortal hearts from love not profit seeking.
Gaining entrance into that kingdom has more value than all the wealth combined on earth. One must live to do Jesus' Fathers will now over their own will( Matt 7:21)
Like this-Matt 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Then one can accomplish this-John 4:22-24

Will you live for entrance into Gods kingdom?
Your timing seems to be a bit off. Rev 21:4 is post millennium, whereas all not written in the book of life, such as the elect, will not be there. And pre post millennium, everyone will die (Jeremiah 31;30), even those who survive into the millennium, but they will either live to be 100 years old or be deemed accursed (Isaiah 65:20). As for sickness during the millennium, there will be leaves of the "tree of life" for healing (Rev 22:2). The problem is that the "wicked" will not be let in the gates (Rev 22:14-15). Matt 6:33 is for the here and now, not for after you die. If you are having trouble finding the kingdom, whereas God provides for you everything you need, then I suggest you follow Yeshua's message, which was to keep the Commandments to enter into life, and if you seek perfection, sell all you have and give it to the poor. As for the nations/Gentiles, during the millennium, they will be ruled with a "rod of iron" (Rev 19:15).
Hi, I know Matt 6:33 is for now. And i know Rev 21:4 is after satan is loosed for a little while then destroyed along with Death and the grave( Hades)-- All will go back to perfection by the end of the 1000 year reign. The wages of sin =death. At death one is aquitted of all past sin( Romans 6:7) The resurrected( righteous and unrighteous) will get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will during the 1000 year reign of Christ. Not all will stand when satan is loosed( Rev 20:8)--all rebels are then rooted out, and once satan is destroyed all things are perfect, and this is what Jesus hands back to his God and Father, then subjects himself-1Cor 15:24-28= New heavens and new earth=Gods kingdom in full control forever.
You made several incorrect statements, probably influenced by the false statements of the false prophet Paul. Hopefully I address most of them. According to Yeshua in Mt 19;21-21, if you want to become perfect, first keep the Commandments, and then sell all your possessions and give the proceeds to the poor. This is to be done in the here and now. If you just want to "enter into life" just keep the Commandments. And death is the consequence of one's iniquities/sin. No one is acquitted (escapes death), much less the foremost sinner, Paul. Paul and his contemporary listeners are all dead. "Everyone will die for their own iniquities" (Jer 31:30). Only the righteous, and those who didn't take on the mark of the beast will arise from the grave "immediately" after the "great tribulation" (Mt 24:29-31) & (Rev 20:4). The LORD God first judges the "fat shepherds", and between one sheep and another, then he sets David over the sheep (Ez 34:16 & 20-24). The coming "kingdom" is where God judges the world (Har-Magedon)(Day of the LORD)(Joel 2:31-32), and then combines Judah and Ephraim together on the land given to Jacob under the leadership of David, which corresponds with the millennium (EZ 37).

No one can be perfect in this sinful state of being. Only during the 1000 year reign after Armageddon with no satan influences until he is loosed. Perfect like Adam and Eve started. Yet they fell in their perfect state as did 1/3 of the angels.
Jesus commisioned Paul. God used Paul's writings because God inspired the words. Its God and Jesus you are speaking against saying Paul is a false prophet. Luke 10:16)
No one escapes death, but at death all sin is aquitted. ( Rom 6:7)One paid in full the wages of sin at death.
A better quote from the false prophet Paul per Romans 6:7, is "for he who has died is freed from sin". Which in a sense is somewhat true, in that one is freed from everything but rot and the worms in the grave. One is not forgiven their sin in the grave. They must wait for the white throne judgment, when everyone comes out of their graves and is judged for their deeds (Rev 20:12). Yeshua's message was that one must be "born again", born of the seed of God, the Word of God, and to do this, one must die to oneself and be baptized in the Spirit, at which time, one cannot sin (1 John 3:9). Those that sin are the sons of the devil (1 John 3:8). As for what Yeshua said about Paul, was that if anyone says he is in the wilderness, such as Paul did, "do not believe them". (Mt 24:26). Apparently, according to Yeshua, to become "perfect"/"complete", one must first take the first steps, which is to keep the Commandments, which is to not sin, sell your possessions and give the proceeds to the poor, and "follow me" (Mt 19). Following Paul is like following Dorothy down the rabbit hole. The "false prophets" (Mt 7:13-15) must come, but woe to those who follow them to "destruction".

You err, In the resurrection to life or judgement, those have already paid the wages of sin= death. Those get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. Rev 20:12 shows the scroll of life being opened, all those who remained faithful after satan was loosed get their name written in that scroll, those who didnt( Rev 20:8) get judged to eternal destruction.
God is a God of justice, there would be 0 sense resurrecting the wicked just to tell them they must die forever when they are already dead. It would make no sense.
All sin even the righteous. The wicked practice sin.( work iniquity) Matt 7:22-23
As for you saying the "wicked practice sin", well, most of the Gentile church claim to be sinners, and their leader Paul, proposes to be the foremost sinner, and in his Romans 7:20, Paul says he does what he does not wish, but it is not him, but the evil within him, making him a son of the devil (1 John 3:8). The white throne judgment, when everyone comes out of their graves, is for the judgment of all, whereas the good receive good, and the bad receive bad according to their deeds. In the end, only the elect, those found in the book of life, will escape the lake of fire (Rev 20:15). The "second death" is called just that, because it is a second death for the lawless/wicked. Satan, the dragon/devil/evil one/serpent (Rev 20:2) has been around from the beginning and remains "ruler of the world" to this point. It is the Gentile church, which bears the "mark of the beast", which will remain in their graves until the white throne judgment (Rev 20:4). The white throne judgment will look closely at the individual deeds. You won't be judged for your "beliefs", but for your "deeds" (Rev 20:12), which are written in the book of life. The "elect" have been chosen from the foundation of the world, that is why they are deemed the "elect".

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Re: Good news

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myth-one.com wrote: Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:34 pm
kjw47 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:17 pm The coming of Gods kingdom is good news for all creation. A complete reversal of this satan ruled system of things. No more war, hatred, fear, pain. sickness, diseases, starvation, infirmities, no greed, cheating on mates, drug addiction, drunkeness, No mourning, outcries, even death will be no more( Rev 21:4) etc,etc= a cure all for what ails mortal existence.
Mortal existence totally ceases following completion of the great white throne final judgment!

There is no more mortal death, pain, war, hatred, starvation, or anything mortal -- because there are no more mortals!

The age of man is over.

No its not that way. Ever hear of the new earth? Mortals live on earth. Psalm 37:29--The righteous will possess the earth and reside on it forever.--Jesus at Matt 5:5--Blessed are the meek for they will inherit the earth.---Isaiah 11:7 --The Lion will eat straw like the bull. that is on earth flesh eats, spirits do not. ---Rev 21:2--Gods new Jerusalem comes down out of heaven)---( to earth) where mortals live.

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