Athetotheist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:43 pmI keep giving reasons, and apparently your only rebuttal is to insist that I haven't.
If there is nothing new there, then what we’ve already said can stand.
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:43 pmMatthew tries to make it about the conception by misquoting the passage to read, "a virgin shall conceive".
Matthew 1:18-25 - “Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed[f] to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit. And her husband Joseph, being a just man and unwilling to put her to shame, resolved to divorce her quietly. But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.” All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet: “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” (which means, God with us). When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his wife, but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus.”
Her virginity is part of it, but it’s about more than the conception.
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:43 pmIn the context of Isaiah 7:1-13, the following chapters do not allude to a divine messiah.
I already shared why I think they do, and this isn’t a reason but simply your view, so if you’ve nothing new to add, then what we’ve already said can stand here as well.