I wasn't aware that atheism was so organized as to have a creed in which atheist's can follow.One of the first lessons that recruits into the Atheist Infiltration Squad go through in their combat training is to overcome Fear of Woo.
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Weird and confusing things non-theists claim about atheism
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Post #21I made up a word for this type of claim-like statement.William wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:48 pmviewtopic.php?p=1088950#p1088950There is no position as not a theist and also not an atheist. One may be confused or uncertain of the position they take, but if they aren't convinced that god/gods exist, they are an atheist. If they are they are a theist. It's binary, one or the other.
Alludeism - an unsupported and often sweeping statement presented in a factual manner...
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Hoo Boy... :roll:
Post #22viewtopic.php?p=1089337#p1089337You do not get to force your definition of atheism on atheism. Atheism (logical belief -position) is non belief in one claim - the god -claim. You do not get to force on us an untenable claim of gnostic - type denial of a god. Especially as the only point I can see in doing that is to logically wrongfoot atheism. Atheists (myself included) may be very much convinced that none of the personal gods exist, and I also think the logic and evidence is against any sorta god. But I know I can't be sure.Non -belief has to be based on non -knowledge.
It is also a ploy that I'd propose rejecting (1) to point to this atheist or that and argue as though that individual was a spokesbod for all atheists. Your plonking assertion that the 'non -belief' position that is correct for atheism makes theists of us all is far wrong and damn near impudent in trying to frogmarch atheists into an untenable extreme claim. Hoo Boy. I will have a look at the Stanford article,but last time I read Stanford on atheism it was a disgrace and written by someone who did not understand atheism and didn't want to.I trust he's been sacked by now.
(I had a look and it's still a disgrace.It perhaps can be justified as cataloguing the misunderstandings of old philosophers and the misrepresentations of religion, but if that was the case,it should say so. I still think the writer should be sacked.)
(1)perhaps you'd explain how non belief in a god claim makes us 'maybe' theists. If you can't do it, I think atheism deserves an apology. (p.s -I guess you misinterpret 'agnosticism'as a 'half -belief that God is real'. .No,that is Deism/irreligious Theism, not agnosticism).
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Post #23viewtopic.php?p=1089691#p1089691At least in the Atheist Afterlife, we all get the same,. whatever it is.
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Post #24viewtopic.php?p=1089891#p1089891We don't refer to evolution as "atheistic" even tho' it does not reference, or need to account for a god.
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Post #25viewtopic.php?p=1089717#p1089717There is no such thing as "atheistic thinking." There is only the atheistic lack of belief in god(s).
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Post #26viewtopic.php?p=1096721#p1096721If science ever finds actual evidence of a god, it will ironically be scientists, not apologists, who lead us to knowledge about this god.