Purple Knight wrote: ↑Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:52 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:50 pmI didn't say vote em out. We need to prosecute em for dereliction of duty.
So how would that work? Either there is a mechanism for doing this and it just needs to be used. If so, good, use it. I support anyone who does.
I can only hope the voters, or maybe the legislature can run em off.
Or... there is no such mechanism and you're talking about force.
Not at this time.
You mention the Founding Fathers, and that's exactly what they did: They spurned legal (but unfair) rule and simply used force to kick their leaders to the curb. Another thing they tried to do was make sure unfair leadership could simply be ousted with force again. They tried to enshrine the right of secession.
Exactly, at some undefined point people being oppressed should fight back.
Unfortunately, that didn't work out so well for the South. I'm not defending slavery but what the South wanted to do was legal. And rightful. And they weren't able to do it.
As much as I love being from jere, I gotta say I'm glad we lost that one. Slavery is wrong.
JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:50 pmDo you think a force with inferior numbers has never brought change?
I think it's unlikely when so many other forces with inferior numbers but moral rectitude are in front of atheists in line for equality and justice.
So we line us up with those bunches.
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JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:50 pmThe only group I consider "protected" are the group of humans others feel the need to prey upon.
I wish we could make the law that way. But we can't. When the law protects a group, discriminators will immediately stop victimising that group and victimise the unprotected.
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Yeah, roacjhes'll scatter. Gotta figuratively squish em everyone when ya find em.
JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:50 pmThat's a defeatist attitude.
You can see it that way if you like, but it's a fact that bullies will keep on bullying and they're smart enough not to target anyone protected against bullying by law, so yes, if I get protection, someone else just takes it for me.
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They for sure'll keep bullying if nobody standa up to em.
JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:50 pmThe struggle for human rights is a continuous effort.
I agree, but there are simply bigger fish to fry. Minorities are still being oppressed. They have to take precedence. Each person only has so much fight in them, and it should all be used where it's most needed.
Like before, we should seek alliances based on common ideals.
JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:50 pmDo you think all atheists in Tennessee have the means to just pull up roots, and plop em down elsewhere? What you're suggesting is almost, kinda, but not really, like a genocide - in that it would remove an entire population from Tennessee.
And for what? So the bigot can sleep in comfort knowing his government has removed them dang dirty atheists?
No, but I think the trend will be for atheists to flee the state, and for atheists who pull up roots from elsewhere and do have means, to give Tennessee a hard pass. Because this trend only affects honest atheists who won't just lie and say they're Christian, overall, Tennessee will become less honest. Let's just see how well that works out for them.
And don't it beat all, those with higher educations trend to atheism. Tennessee does indeed face a brain drain for various reasons.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
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