I can easily prove that none of you
and even you that read this(you can sign up and come try me if you
actually believe it) do not know the God who created heaven and earth
and that you do not have any knowledge of the new earth or God
other than what you read in a book that some one wrote in it.
We could do this as a test...
I would ask you a question and you would ask the God
who created heaven and earth to give you the answer...
Then you in turn could do the same to me.
We would find out that the God who created heaven and earth
will not reply to you and that He never has
conversed with you in all your life.
I on the other hand converse with Him at all times, day and night.
So what do you say do you want to take a leap into the REAL truth?
Come try to prove me wrong, or go get anyone
of flesh and blood upon the face of the whole earth
that you think God talks to them...come try to defeat my words.
Who Started That Lie That God talks to You?
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Re: Who Started That Lie That God talks to You?
Post #2No need. You defeat yourself. Let me demonstrate:
Do you claim to speak for God, Jim? Is He telling you to tell all who will listen that He has never spoken to any of us? Is He telling you to tell all who will listen that He has given His Holy Spirit to none of us? Is that right, Jim? Is He telling you to tell all who will listen that He has given special revelation to you only? Is that what you're hearing, Jim? If the answer to any of the aforementioned questions is yes, then I would reply with the words of Christ to Peter, found in Matthew 16:23 and Mark 8:33.
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Post #3You are not Jesus and I am not Peter or Satan and we are not there we are here right nowPinSeeker wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:41 pmNo need.
Do you claim to speak for God, Jim? Is He telling you to tell all who will listen that He has never spoken to any of us? Is He telling you to tell all who will listen that He has given His Holy Spirit to none of us? Is that right, Jim? Is He telling you to tell all who will listen that He has given special revelation to you only? Is that what you're hearing, Jim? If the answer to any of the aforementioned questions is yes, then I would reply with the words of Christ to Peter, found in Matthew 16:23 and Mark 8:33.
Grace and peace to you.
in the present point in time. God has never given you His Spirit nor has He ever talked to you.
So go back and look again through your book and see if you can come up with something
better than this line....I would reply with the words of Christ to Peter, found in Matthew 16:23 and Mark 8:33.
Because it did not work for you.
I claim that God speaks to me not that I speak for Him.
Do you see the difference?
I just tell you what He tells me.
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Post #4I know I know that is a very bold statement
that I made about all of you and all the rest of
flesh and blood upon the face of the whole earth.
But I will never be proven to be a liar for
the simple reason...what I stated is the truth.
But here I am...come match up against me and see
if whomever you call your God or god will
give you the victory over me.
Maybe that book you worship will give you the victory?
Here I am!
That to which is in me is greater than anything in any of you.
that I made about all of you and all the rest of
flesh and blood upon the face of the whole earth.
But I will never be proven to be a liar for
the simple reason...what I stated is the truth.
But here I am...come match up against me and see
if whomever you call your God or god will
give you the victory over me.
Maybe that book you worship will give you the victory?
Here I am!
That to which is in me is greater than anything in any of you.
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Re: Who Started That Lie That God talks to You?
Post #5You tell me ....
ISAIAH 30:20, 21
...you will see your Grand Instructor with your own eyes. And your own ears will hear a word behind you saying, “This is the way. Walk in it”
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"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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Post #6Certainly not. to both statements. But I can certainly say the same thing Jesus said to Peter in the same light, right now.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:48 pm You are not Jesus and I am not Peter or Satan... and we are not there we are here right now in the present point in time....
Yes, I know exactly where we are, Jim.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:48 pm ...and we are not there we are here right now in the present point in time....
Yeah, so, again, what He said.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:48 pm God has never given you His Spirit nor has He ever talked to you.

Whether is "worked for me" or not is irrelevant, a non sequitur, as it were.
You apparently don't even know what you claim. Which is not surprising.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:48 pm I claim that God speaks to me not that I speak for Him.
Right back atcha, my friend. Right back atcha. And, I would add, it's quite evident, both in what you say and how you say it, who is speaking to you, who you're listening to.
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Post #7Is Jesus Christ your Savior?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:13 pm
You tell me ....
ISAIAH 30:20, 21
...you will see your Grand Instructor with your own eyes. And your own ears will hear a word behind you saying, “This is the way. Walk in it”
Yes or no?
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Post #8Have you given up on your book so soon? You tell mePinSeeker wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:13 pmCertainly not. to both statements. But I can certainly say the same thing Jesus said to Peter in the same light, right now.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:48 pm You are not Jesus and I am not Peter or Satan... and we are not there we are here right now in the present point in time....
Yes, I know exactly where we are, Jim.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:48 pm ...and we are not there we are here right now in the present point in time....
Yeah, so, again, what He said.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:48 pm God has never given you His Spirit nor has He ever talked to you.
Whether is "worked for me" or not is irrelevant, a non sequitur, as it were.
You apparently don't even know what you claim. Which is not surprising.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:48 pm I claim that God speaks to me not that I speak for Him.
Right back atcha, my friend. Right back atcha. And, I would add, it's quite evident, both in what you say and how you say it, who is speaking to you, who you're listening to.
Grace and peace to you.
in your own words what would be a good test for you and I to take
to flush out which one of us is the liar? Ask your God or god
then tell us what they said to you. I will do the same.
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Post #9I already have an answer from my God.
How long does it take your god or God to answer you?
How long does it take your god or God to answer you?
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Re: Who Started That Lie That God talks to You?
Post #10I don't worship a book, Jim. Like Job, I know that my Redeemer liveth.
If any of us is smart, then we test ourselves, as Paul tells us to do in 2 Corinthians 13:5.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:18 pm ...in your own words what would be a good test for you and I to take
You're the only one throwing around accusations of being a liar, Jim. And you seem to be accusing God of that, over and over and over. Which is not a good thing, but hey, do what you want. As for you... well, it is very possible to not be lying, but only deceived, right? That is, after all, what happened to Eve.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 6:18 pm ...to flush out which one of us is the liar? Ask your God or god then tell us what they said to you. I will do the same.
Grace and peace to you.