EarthScienceguy wrote:You're not answering my questions again! Please answer them: Why would you oppose addressing a high rate of suicide among gays as a threat to the public health? And why do you oppose society taking action to decrease any such high suicide rate among gays?
I did you just do not like my answer.
Everybody, please observe that ESG is dodging my questions.
Maybe your brothers will beat the odds of the dangerous activity they are engaging in.
I spoke to one of my brothers last night. He told me that homosexuals become suicidal as a result of their being mistreated.
...if someone would have been brave enough to talk to Alexander the Great about the homosexual acts in his life he might not have died in his thirties.
How did Alexander's being gay cause him to die? We really don't know for sure what killed Alexander, so your pretending to know is misleading.
...therapy with a valid scientific basis may well help gay men to enjoy gay sex without any such side-effects.
This would be your belief. The facts indicate that it does.
How is my recommending science to help gays a "belief"? Every time I mention science, you oppose it.
Do you support an effort on the part of scientists to develop such a therapy if homosexuals can benefit from it?
It seems as if you are intent on asking questions like this so let me put it like this.
It would would be totally unloving to support an activity that hurts people's body, mind and spirit like all research says homosexual acts do. Why would I support an activity that has the same implications as supporting people to do criminal acts.
You're dodging another question. I must assume, then, that you oppose the development of scientifically-valid therapies to help homosexuals. Your opposition is based on your Christian belief that homosexuals are sinners who must be punished.
So which scientific study that I have sighted pseudoscience?
For starters, Christian anti-gay therapy is based on outmoded psychology that assumed that gays are mentally ill. This bad science has been done away with in the scientific community, but many anti-gay Christians still find it useful to bash gays.
Yes I do because of the reasons I sighted. A twelve month study is not at all long enough to access anything.
How long should the study be? One day longer than its duration?
Christians would not be in favor of homosexual acts and they would be convicted of homosexual acts and warn people of the perils of the sin. What the Bible says about homosexual acts is no secret. Even the title of this strings declares the view Christianity takes on homosexuality. If anyone does not believe that the teaches that homosexuality is a sin then they are not a Christian.
What you're saying here is exactly why so many Christians are "gays in the closet." They fear to admit they are gay.
What? Do you have any documentation on this assertion?
There's plenty of evidence for the universality of homosexuality. You're not going to find it if you don't look. Here's
Cross-Cultural Evidence for the Genetics of Homosexuality for starters.
But the individuals in these horrible situation still do not commit suicide the rates homosexuals do.
Please post the rates of suicide among gays versus other groups.
If they do not want to be convicted of their sin then yes they should avoid the Bible.
You know full well that the Bible demands that sexually active gays be murdered. It's very inconsistent to claim you don't want them harmed, yet you bow down to a killer god who wants them dead.
I am not sure if getting yelled at necessarily has to lead to destructive behavior.
May we try it on you to find out?
But one would have to wonder about the Christianity of those yelling these kind of comments also.
Oh no--it's the "no true Christian" fallacy. Is it OK with you if I insist that Stalin could not have been an atheist because I assume atheists cannot become dictators?
Christians are to love their neighbors. Yelling "God hates fags" is not loving.
Then what do you call executing them? Too bad Jesus didn't bother to command his followers to repudiate the barbaric law of Moses. Jesus was too busy telling them to "love." Evidently Jesus' love did not prohibit murdering gays.
What is it that you believe we are turning a blind eye to?
You turn a blind eye to all the harm your religion does to people, and not just gays.
Are you speaking of the judgement of sin in the Old Testament?
I'm referring to the barbarism of the entire Bible.
There is a difference between homosexual action and homosexual attraction.
Again, dodging my questions. Can you choose to be gay? Is it some tempting sin for you?