The true afterlife

[22zg2293]

What happens after death? Is there a heaven and a hell? Is it just nothingness? Or will you be reincarnated? Most people believe wholeheartedly that there is an afterlife. But, what if the afterlife is entirely determined and made up of what you believed afterlife to be while you were still alive. When we die will we live in this dimension what we have created for ourselves? Either being with an eternal being or in eternal damnation? How can we truly know what the afterlife holds for us.

[2ndRateMind]

[Replying to post 1 by 22zg2293]

I shouldn't worry about it. Just live the best life you can, loving God, and loving your contemporaries, as Jesus recommended*. And let what will be, be.

Best wishes, 2RM.

*Mark 12: 30-31 KJV

[Divine Insight]

But, what if the afterlife is entirely determined and made up of what you believed afterlife to be while you were still alive.

Then it would be best to be agnostic. That way you can decide what you would like the afterlife to be like after you die.

[ttruscott]

How can we truly know what the afterlife holds for us.

Christians live by faith in what they hear and read about salvation from the enslavement to sin and the legal consequences of sin, not by proof as faith is an unproven hope.

So HOPE and do your best trusting Heb 12:5-11 (painful discipline) which is perfectly supported by Romans 8:28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

[Divine Insight]

How can we truly know what the afterlife holds for us.

Christians live by faith in what they hear and read about salvation from the enslavement to sin and the legal consequences of sin, not by proof as faith is an unproven hope.

So HOPE and do your best trusting Heb 12:5-11 (painful discipline) which is perfectly supported by Romans 8:28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

This doesn't tell us anything about what an afterlife might be like other than it's supposed to be "good". But that then leaves everything up to the individual to dream of an afterlife that meets their own personal ideals of what constitutes "good".

So even Christians are left with having to imagine what a "good life" might be like. And I'm quite sure that they would all have different ideas of what that might entail.

[2ndRateMind]

How can we truly know what the afterlife holds for us.

Christians live by faith in what they hear and read about salvation from the enslavement to sin and the legal consequences of sin, not by proof as faith is an unproven hope.

So HOPE and do your best trusting Heb 12:5-11 (painful discipline) which is perfectly supported by Romans 8:28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

This doesn't tell us anything about what an afterlife might be like other than it's supposed to be "good". But that then leaves everything up to the individual to dream of an afterlife that meets their own personal ideals of what constitutes "good".

I am quite confident that whatever and however you conceive of the 'good', for those both deserving and undeserving, the afterlife will be better.

Best wishes, 2RM

[Tcg]

How can we truly know what the afterlife holds for us.

We can't. There is no reason however to think that the afterlife is any different than the before life.

Your experience after you die will in all likelihood be the same as your experience before life. Pure nothingness.

There is of course no reason to fear this. It is only the living that fear death. The dead of course are dead and don't experience fear nor anything else.

[2ndRateMind]

...There is no reason however to think that the afterlife is any different than the before life...Pure nothingness...

Well, for those of us who have faith in God, there is exactly such a reason:

Premise 1) God is Good
Premise 2) Justice is Good
Conclusion 1) Therefore, God is Just
Premise 3) This life is not Just
Conclusion 2) Therefore, there must be a next life in which God delivers Justice.

Best wishes, 2RM.

[Tcg]

[Replying to post 8 by 2ndRateMind]

Your premises are nothing but unsupported assertions. Your conclusions therefore are the same, unsupported.

All that you've presented is based on your original leap of faith that a God exists, oh, and that he is too incompetent to provide justice initially and therefore needs a mulligan.

The question I addressed was this, "How can we truly know what the afterlife holds for us."

My answer, that we can't, remains unchallenged by your series of unsupported assertions based on a leap of faith. If the question was, "How can we believe what the afterlife holds for us." Your leap of faith would be one valid response.

Given that wasn't the question, it isn't.

[2ndRateMind]

[Replying to post 9 by Tcg]

Well, I did preface this line of argument with 'For those of us that have faith in God...'

And for those of us with such faith, and who have come to know God, it is uncontroversial that He is good, so this is not really an unsupported assertion. Indeed, amongst believers this finding is, to the best of my knowledge, unanimous. And as for the other premises, would you really want to argue that justice is not good, or that this life is just?

And by way of clarification, premises simply are assertions. An argument is valid if the truth of the premises guarantees the truth of the conclusion, and sound if the argument is valid and the premises are true. A sound argument (true premises, valid structure) must have a true conclusion. If God exists, in the way very many think He does, then I have provided a sound argument in favour of an afterlife.

Best wishes, 2RM.