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The Ark has crashed
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The Ark has crashed
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Rubber tires? Sheesh.
Is that a metal base? And are those glass windows?
What a joke to say this is in any way a replica of the bible ark.
Is that a metal base? And are those glass windows?
What a joke to say this is in any way a replica of the bible ark.
Society and its morals evolve and will continue to evolve. The bible however remains the same and just requires more and more apologetics and claims of "metaphors" and "symbolism" to justify it.
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Slightly high standards there. You can buy a model replica of almost anything and does anyone complain about what is missing or added?
Slightly high standards there. You can buy a model replica of almost anything and does anyone complain about what is missing or added?
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If it has missing or added things then it isn't a replica, right? I bet the inside has a steel support structure too...Wootah wrote: [Replying to post 3 by OnceConvinced]
Slightly high standards there. You can buy a model replica of almost anything and does anyone complain about what is missing or added?
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It's supposed to be proving the bible story true. In which case it must make use of the tools and resources that the bible tale used. Otherwise how can it prove it?Wootah wrote: [Replying to post 3 by OnceConvinced]
Slightly high standards there. You can buy a model replica of almost anything and does anyone complain about what is missing or added?
Society and its morals evolve and will continue to evolve. The bible however remains the same and just requires more and more apologetics and claims of "metaphors" and "symbolism" to justify it.
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Oh look, a wooden ship, while in calm waters, struck something hard and got seriously damaged, threatening the lives of anyone or anything that might have been inside.
Now, creationists, take a look at the photo in that news article. Now pretend that that is the 'real' Ark. Explain how the 'real' Ark is seaworthy, especially in a GLOBAL storm?
Now, creationists, take a look at the photo in that news article. Now pretend that that is the 'real' Ark. Explain how the 'real' Ark is seaworthy, especially in a GLOBAL storm?

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I'm not scientific proof creationist. However, since we are noting differences between this situation and what one would expect in the biblical flood, how many three story metal coast guard ship would one expect the ark to have run into in the time of Noach?rikuoamero wrote: Oh look, a wooden ship, while in calm waters, struck something hard and got seriously damaged, threatening the lives of anyone or anything that might have been inside.
Now, creationists, take a look at the photo in that news article. Now pretend that that is the 'real' Ark. Explain how the 'real' Ark is seaworthy, especially in a GLOBAL storm?
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Would mountains be above the water after the ark would have lifted off (floated) from wherever it was supposedly constructed (presumably not a mountain top)?
How would the ark navigate / propel to avoid exposed peaks?
The supposed craft would not only be without means of propulsion and navigation, it would also likely be rotten. If it took 100 years to build (by a 500 year old man) the first timbers laid would have a century to decay. Was the wood magically immune to rotting after being exposed to weather for a hundred years?
Does it not make more sense to regard the tale as a myth rather than literal truth?
Is a "three story metal coast guard ship" the ONLY hard object that the storied ark could encounter in a worldwide flood it supposedly navigated?bluethread wrote: I'm not scientific proof creationist. However, since we are noting differences between this situation and what one would expect in the biblical flood, how many three story metal coast guard ship would one expect the ark to have run into in the time of Noach?
Would mountains be above the water after the ark would have lifted off (floated) from wherever it was supposedly constructed (presumably not a mountain top)?
How would the ark navigate / propel to avoid exposed peaks?
The supposed craft would not only be without means of propulsion and navigation, it would also likely be rotten. If it took 100 years to build (by a 500 year old man) the first timbers laid would have a century to decay. Was the wood magically immune to rotting after being exposed to weather for a hundred years?
Does it not make more sense to regard the tale as a myth rather than literal truth?
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As I said, I'm not a scientific proof creationist. I hope you can forgive me for presenting a consideration that does not fit the popular narrative on this thread. Proceed with the one sided evaluation, no need to point out anything that might in any way bring prospective.Zzyzx wrote: .Is a "three story metal coast guard ship" the ONLY hard object that the storied ark could encounter in a worldwide flood it supposedly navigated?bluethread wrote: I'm not scientific proof creationist. However, since we are noting differences between this situation and what one would expect in the biblical flood, how many three story metal coast guard ship would one expect the ark to have run into in the time of Noach?
Would mountains be above the water after the ark would have lifted off (floated) from wherever it was supposedly constructed (presumably not a mountain top)?
How would the ark navigate / propel to avoid exposed peaks?
The supposed craft would not only be without means of propulsion and navigation, it would also likely be rotten. If it took 100 years to build (by a 500 year old man) the first timbers laid would have a century to decay. Was the wood magically immune to rotting after being exposed to weather for a hundred years?
Does it not make more sense to regard the tale as a myth rather than literal truth?