As many of you know, the organization Answers in Genesis is building a full size replica of Noah’s ark. The ark is almost completed and is scheduled to be open to visitors on July 7. You can learn the details at https://arkencounter.com/ .
Most people don’t believe a worldwide flood occurred. In his second letter Peter foretold this denial.
They will say, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation.�
For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished.
2 Peter 3:4-6 ESV
The flood lasted just a little over one year.
In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened.
Genesis 7:11 ESV
In the six hundred and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried from off the earth. And Noah removed the covering of the ark and looked, and behold, the face of the ground was dry. In the second month, on the twenty-seventh day of the month, the earth had dried out.
Genesis 8:13-14 ESV
Yet during that year the rapid burial of living creatures produced most of the fossils we find today and the geography of the earth was changed. The flood ended when the continents we know now rose up out of the water.
You covered it with the deep as with a garment;
the waters stood above the mountains.
At your rebuke they fled;
at the sound of your thunder they took to flight.
The mountains rose, the valleys sank down
to the place that you appointed for them.
You set a boundary that they may not pass,
so that they might not again cover the earth.
Psalm 104:6-9 ESV
Knowing whether the flood occurred is essential to accurately measuring the age of the earth. If there was no flood then it would have taken millions of years to form the vast number of fossils that we find and to shape the earth into its present condition. On the other hand, if there was a flood it is possible that the earth is only a few thousand years old, as the Bible says.
Knowing there was a flood not only shows that the earth is younger than most people believe but it also shows that God is concerned about the way we live and will judge us. The rainbow is a sign that God will never send a flood that will destroy all life on earth. The next judgment will be by fire.
By the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.
2 Peter 3:7 ESV
The purpose of the ark replica is to provide proof that the story of the flood is true. Here is some more information about the ark and the flood on the Answers in Genesis website.
https://answersingenesis.org/search/?cs ... ah%27s+ark
https://answersingenesis.org/search/?cs ... ll&q=flood
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Post #1His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made.
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Well to line up with the bible tale, the ark will have had to have been built by a 500 year old man with maybe three sons. Who has built this particular ark?
Also is it made of gopher wood?
Also is it made of gopher wood?
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The ark only needs to be built according to the specifications found in the Bible. It doesn't matter who builds it or how.
The ark only needs to be built according to the specifications found in the Bible. It doesn't matter who builds it or how.
His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made.
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Of course it matters. If the idea is to prove the tale is true, then it has to be built by one old man and his sons. It's all very well to build a replica of this boat, but there is so much more to the story than the boat itself.puddleglum wrote: [Replying to post 2 by OnceConvinced]
The ark only needs to be built according to the specifications found in the Bible. It doesn't matter who builds it or how.
So what about the gopher wood? Is this ark going to be made of gopher wood? It would have to be if it's going to line up with the specifications found in the bible.
It this ark being made free of any modern materials or tools? If not, then it's laughable to try to say it lines up with the bible tale. That it in any way proves the tale to be true.
Society and its morals evolve and will continue to evolve. The bible however remains the same and just requires more and more apologetics and claims of "metaphors" and "symbolism" to justify it.
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Re: Ark encounter
Post #6How is it suppose to provide proof of the story when they can't even built the prerequisite of a floating replica out of wood, reeds and pitch?puddleglum wrote: The purpose of the ark replica is to provide proof that the story of the flood is true.
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1) To even start toward proof, the boat would have to be seaworthy under difficult conditions for months. Building a replica on land does NOT establish that.
Marine engineers (people who design and oversee building of real ships) conclude that a wooden boat of the size claimed would not be seaworthy even if reinforced with iron. The largest wooden ships ever known to have been built were not that large and were not seaworthy. A bit of research is in order.
2) Would building a replica of the cross prove that the crucifixion occurred? Would constructing a tomb prove that the “resurrection� occurred? Would a replica of a science fiction space ship prove that the story was true?
Where do people come up with this stuff? Is critical / analytical thinking a lost art?
There are a couple major defects in that “proof�puddleglum wrote: The purpose of the ark replica is to provide proof that the story of the flood is true.
1) To even start toward proof, the boat would have to be seaworthy under difficult conditions for months. Building a replica on land does NOT establish that.
Marine engineers (people who design and oversee building of real ships) conclude that a wooden boat of the size claimed would not be seaworthy even if reinforced with iron. The largest wooden ships ever known to have been built were not that large and were not seaworthy. A bit of research is in order.
2) Would building a replica of the cross prove that the crucifixion occurred? Would constructing a tomb prove that the “resurrection� occurred? Would a replica of a science fiction space ship prove that the story was true?
Where do people come up with this stuff? Is critical / analytical thinking a lost art?
It would be prudent to consult hydrologists, meteorologists, oceanographers (people who actually study such things) concerning flood possibilities rather than relying on Creationist websites or preachers (who show no evidence of studying real world flood conditions).puddleglum wrote: Here is some more information about the ark and the flood on the Answers in Genesis website.
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Post #9[Replying to post 1 by puddleglum]
Do NOT quote from people who say this on their website!
"By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record. "
If you're going to prove a story from an old book, say that it actually happened, do one thing please?Here is some more information about the ark and the flood on the Answers in Genesis website.
Do NOT quote from people who say this on their website!
"By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record. "

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Post #10We cannot provide any evidence for a global flood, so here is a replica of a boat!The purpose of the ark replica is to provide proof that the story of the flood is true.
When you can't show that a myth actually happened because it doesn't agree with what we see in reality... make a replica and gather people whom already believe and claim that the replica reflect reality. Don't forget to charge them admission!

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