Religion In Comics

Beyonder · Post by **Beyonder** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:35 pm

People haven't discussed this before but I believe ill like a civil chat about this.

DC:
The Presence: The Jehovah/Yahweh of the DC Omniverse taken from biblical origin even to the point of taking male and animal forms and talking to his children.
Samael (Lucifer) Morningstar: Biblically from the bible from the personality and history but him and Michael are twins.
Michael Demiurgos: Biblically from the bible from the personality and history but him and Lucifer are twins.
Jesus Christ: Based off the bible.

Marvel:
The-One-Above-All: Held as the Omnipotent being of marvel and is the writers/artists of marvel always been male.
The Beyonder: At a few points been shown to display Biblical like origins from having his own "Adam and Eve."
Yahweh: Creator of the Ghost Riders
Lucifer the light bearer: Son of Yahweh and the trickster of the ghost riders.

Spawn Comics
Mother of existence: Creator of existence disputed as BOTH Genders mostly Female.
God: Twin of Satan and Son of MOM
Satan: Twin of God and Son of MOM

All the comic series have a different version of God/Satan/Bible mostly from Marvel/DC/Spawn

DC version mainly based off the events and talk of Jehovah basically from beginning to the present they depictured him All-Powerful (Omnipotence),All-Knowing (Omniscience), and Present In All Things (Omnipresence) and that 10,000,000,000 years ago was creation as Lucifer/Michael was stated to be the exact number of as they had multiple times tried to show Jehovah as lower as a paradox this was shown by a being stating HE helped God in the creation and the fall at this time he wasn't talking about Lucifer as his story was later on and was a contradiction between the established origins even WHEN before this a being "The Great Evil Beast" was states to be the Evil half of God at one point God couldn't do anything until this creature had reached it hands to God and that's when they Merged this however never disproves the presence status at all because they gave multiple different biblical events in Dc and the sub-company vertigo comics as in a issue Lucifer and the presence have a conversation which lead to him saying "Even I was created from external forces." this is what we call 4th wall breaking as he was stating the DC writers/artists.

Marvel version is that originally a being aka Beyonder was disputed as God after his Retcon (Meaning new origins) which had him have utter control of all religion which later we was introduce with the True Omnipotent being AFTER Beyonder original origins was changed this being wasn't biblical related his name was The One Above All aka TOAA as it was the Writers/Artists of marvel but later on we seen the ghost rider fighting the devil and such this isnt tied to TOAA as its tied with another character aka Yahweh they do NOT match biblical origins either this how some people think their is a higher being than what we are told.

Spawn version is that M.O.M created existence for her (or its) many children and she had 2 children who didn't and couldn't get along this was God and Satan who HATED each other with passion she explained whatever God created Satan destroyed so she placed them on 1 planet aka Earth to do as they pleaser God created Humans but Satan didn't want them to be slaves so he tricked Adam and eve and so they planned a all out attack on each other aka Armageddon which M.O.M took form of "Jesus" had faked died to prevent such a cause it didn't work.....now this is what most being's against Christianity picture because its alot of anti-Christianity specially when it gives readers "M.O.M never done anything." And she explained that also basically "I didn't want to do anything." Showing does God have a huge choice I creation?

Does this change your view of fictional universes?

Ancient of Years · Post by **Ancient of Years** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:56 pm

I once saw a reply to a reader's letter in a Superman comic (in 1968 I believe) asking what religion Superman was. The answer was that although inhabitants of Krypton were sun worshipers Superman himself did not practice any religion but respected all of them.

A neighbor kid showed that to me. I was well beyond the age of reading comics at that time. I stopped reading them back when Blackhawk comics were still filled with offensive racial and ethnic stereotypes.

Beyonder · Post by **Beyonder** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:02 pm

Ancient of Years wrote: I once saw a reply to a reader's letter in a Superman comic (in 1968 I believe) asking what religion Superman was. The answer was that although inhabitants of Krypton were sun worshipers Superman himself did not practice any religion but respected all of them.

A neighbor kid showed that to me. I was well beyond the age of reading comics at that time. I stopped reading them back when Blackhawk comics were still filled with offensive racial and ethnic stereotypes.

I've seen some very offensive comics before the low key one was when Kate from X-Men called a dude a "N***er' but overall comics have been somewhat changing but DC wont be doing the whole Gay marriage in comics like marvel has been doing.

Ancient of Years · Post by **Ancient of Years** » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:13 pm

Beyonder wrote:
Ancient of Years wrote: I once saw a reply to a reader's letter in a Superman comic (in 1968 I believe) asking what religion Superman was. The answer was that although inhabitants of Krypton were sun worshipers Superman himself did not practice any religion but respected all of them.

A neighbor kid showed that to me. I was well beyond the age of reading comics at that time. I stopped reading them back when Blackhawk comics were still filled with offensive racial and ethnic stereotypes.
I've seen some very offensive comics before the low key one was when Kate from X-Men called a dude a "N***er' but overall comics have been somewhat changing but DC wont be doing the whole Gay marriage in comics like marvel has been doing.

I am talking about stereotypes, mostly European types, like a Frenchman who always said Sacre Bleu! Blacks, Hispanics, Third World types simply did not exist. The only exception was Chop Chop, the Chinese cook. Extremely offensive portrayal. This was the 1940s and 1950s.

Extremely offensive portrayal. Look at your own risk.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... andall.jpg

puddleglum · Post by **puddleglum** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:29 pm

Here is a site where you can find out the religious beliefs of a lot of comic strip characters:

http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/com ... igion.html

Regens KÃ¼chl · Post by **Regens KÃ¼chl** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:26 pm

Religion in Comics? Dont forget the Jack Chick Comic Universe!
In the JCCU evidently Chick Christianity a extremistic radical baptist religiousness is the one true religion. Evangelical Horror Universe this.

But in analogy to the bible Chick comic storys contradict each other in several cases on extreme important theological issues and there are, again analog to the bible, Chick-apologetists who on websites try to make sense of the contradictions !

Of Marvel and DC dont forget to mention the flagship theological series " Thor" and "Wonder Woman" !
And in the mid 90s DC series "Demon Etrigan" filled many issues with an ongoing war between christian heaven and hell.

Ancient of Years · Post by **Ancient of Years** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:21 am

Regens KÃ¼chl wrote: Religion in Comics? Dont forget the Jack Chick Comic Universe!
In the JCCU evidently Chick Christianity a extremistic radical baptist religiousness is the one true religion. Evangelical Horror Universe this.

But in analogy to the bible Chick comic storys contradict each other in several cases on extreme important theological issues and there are, again analog to the bible, Chick-apologetists who on websites try to make sense of the contradictions !

Of Marvel and DC dont forget to mention the flagship theological series " Thor" and "Wonder Woman" !
And in the mid 90s DC series "Demon Etrigan" filled many issues with an ongoing war between christian heaven and hell.

http://foo.ca/wp/chick-tract-satire/who ... ten-first/

Beyonder · Post by **Beyonder** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:01 am

Bashed upon by this one image......people called me a Atheist but for what?

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:46 pm

Beyonder wrote:
Bashed upon by this one image......people called me a Atheist but for what?

I would call you a comic fan.

And Fred Hembeck did a much better job in destroying the marvel universe.

Beyonder · Post by **Beyonder** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:09 pm

Goat wrote:
Beyonder wrote:
Bashed upon by this one image......people called me a Atheist but for what?
I would call you a comic fan.

And Fred Hembeck did a much better job in destroying the marvel universe.

Hickman was doing good.....until he stated the strongest race......can be killed by earth sphere races yet they are designed to freely kill off the cosmic hierarchy......*Face palm* I couldn't comprehend that...... And thank you I love comics! But judging someone off a single pic....thats sad.....