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[whatsit]

hello, i'm whatsit and i just joined 30 minutes ago.
i'm a male, 59 years old.
i'm not what you would call a "bible thumper" and don't go to church.
i'm undecided in regards to a god.
the major reasons i joined:
1. i have a lot of time on my hands.
2. i believe i have information that needs to be heard.

i also believe that evolution isn't the fact you might think it is.
i've uncovered stuff that i never knew existed.

so, if you like a good debate on evolution or would just like to hear what i have to say, then reply here and let me know.

peace

[Divine Insight]

i also believe that evolution isn't the fact you might think it is.
i've uncovered stuff that i never knew existed.

so, if you like a good debate on evolution or would just like to hear what i have to say, then reply here and let me know.

peace

Welcome to the forums.

I'm sure you'll get a lot of people willing to debate evolution with you. I'm personally not interested because I'm already confident with the overwhelming evidence that already exists for it. I feel confident that everything you have to offer can easily be debunked before I've even heard it.

In fact, if you had anything that truly had any meat you'd be far better off presenting it to the scientific community rather than an Internet forum that debates religions.

The mere fact that you would like to debate it on a religion forum already suggests religious bias.

And finally, even if evolution could be brought into question (something that isn't even remotely likely) that still wouldn't loan support to the Biblical picture of God. The Biblical picture of God has so many failings I would reject it even if we couldn't explain how life evolved.

In the meantime welcome to the forums, and I'm sure you'll find someone who will entertain your ideas.

The typical way to do that is to start a thread specifically addressing the topic you would like to debate and entitle the thread appropriately. If you could outline your claims in your OP with a specific question all the better.

Had you actually done that I might have at least answered your question.

Enjoy the forums.

[Neatras]

[Replying to post 1 by whatsit]

If you feel you have evidence to present, I recommend you make a separate thread for this evidence to have a spotlight view. Preferably in the Science subforum.

[ttruscott]

[Replying to post 1 by whatsit]

Welcome.

I see you have no tokens yet so here are a dew to get you started, You can look them up on the faq page.

Peace, Ted

[Zzyzx]

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i believe i have information that needs to be heard.

i also believe that evolution isn't the fact you might think it is.
i've uncovered stuff that i never knew existed.

so, if you like a good debate on evolution or would just like to hear what i have to say, then reply here and let me know.

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[whatsit]

Welcome to the forums.

thanks

I'm sure you'll get a lot of people willing to debate evolution with you.

i'm willing.

I'm personally not interested because I'm already confident with the overwhelming evidence that already exists for it.

what "evidence" might that be?
science hasn't proved, nor demonstrated that atoms can assemble themselves into a living cell.
the fossil record is a joke of a mess.
the primate fossil tree is practically non existent

I feel confident that everything you have to offer can easily be debunked before I've even heard it.

i don't know about that.
i have my doubts.

In fact, if you had anything that truly had any meat you'd be far better off presenting it to the scientific community rather than an Internet forum that debates religions.

been there, done that.
they didn't like my sources, you know science and nature?

The mere fact that you would like to debate it on a religion forum already suggests religious bias.

and the problem with that is what exactly?
will that make my respected science sources invalid?

And finally, even if evolution could be brought into question (something that isn't even remotely likely) that still wouldn't loan support to the Biblical picture of God.

correct.
remember, YOU are the one that brought up god, not me

In the meantime welcome to the forums, and I'm sure you'll find someone who will entertain your ideas.

my "ideas" come directly from respected sources.

The typical way to do that is to start a thread specifically addressing the topic you would like to debate and entitle the thread appropriately. If you could outline your claims in your OP with a specific question all the better.

the enrollment email suggested i post here first and tell the board a little about me.

Had you actually done that I might have at least answered your question.

Enjoy the forums.

i don't really have a question.
i want to "spread the word" about what i've found.
thanks for the welcome.

[whatsit]

[Replying to post 1 by whatsit]

Welcome.

I see you have no tokens yet so here are a dew to get you started, You can look them up on the faq page.

Peace, Ted

now that was really sweet of you, thanks man.
i think i might like it here.

[whatsit]

Moderator Clarification

Welcome to the Forum.

Do you wish to debate based upon the information to which you refer or just talk about it?

i'm not exactly sure.
if i try to just discuss this stuff, someone is going to try and "debunk" it.
i guess i can open a disussion thread and see where it goes.
i have no real desire to debate anything, only to post what i know.

Feel free to start threads where appropriate after reading Forum Rules and the Guidelines for various sub-forums.

okay, yes

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[bluethread]

Welcome, though you have been told where to post your views on specific topics, I think you will find that there are some here who word their responses to almost any topic such that they can ramble on about their pet peeves. Be careful not to copy them, or respond too bluntly, at least not in the beginning. Such tactics take a certain amount of nuance and are designed to elicit a negative response. Focus on your points and maybe search fallacies in wikipedia, so you can avoid using them and recognize them when they are used against you. Pointing out fallacies, or at least claiming others are using them, is a common past time around here.

[Divine Insight]

In fact, if you had anything that truly had any meat you'd be far better off presenting it to the scientific community rather than an Internet forum that debates religions.

been there, done that.
they didn't like my sources, you know science and nature?

If they didn't accept your sources, then your sources don't have any scientific merit.

The mere fact that you would like to debate it on a religion forum already suggests religious bias.

and the problem with that is what exactly?
will that make my respected science sources invalid?

But you obviously don't have any respected scientific sources remember? You already tried that and they rejected your sources.

Had you actually done that I might have at least answered your question.

Enjoy the forums.

i don't really have a question.
i want to "spread the word" about what i've found.
thanks for the welcome.

Is this some form of evangelism?

"Spread the Word" sure sounds evangelical to me.

Especially if you are attempting to 'spread the word' that even you confess has already been rejected by the scientific community as having questionable sources.