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Who is Prophet Muhammad?

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Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, is the man beloved by more than 1.2 billion Muslims. He is the man who taught us patience in the face of adversity, and taught us to live in this world but seek eternal life in the hereafter. It was to Prophet Muhammad that God revealed the Quran. Along with this Book of guidance God sent Prophet Muhammad, whose behavior and high moral standards are an example to us all. Prophet Muhammads life was the Quran. He understood it, he loved it and he lived his life based on its standards. He taught us to recite Quran, to live by its principles and to love it. When Muslims declare their faith in One God, they also declare their belief that Muhammad is the slave and final messenger of God.

When a Muslim hears Muhammads name mentioned they ask God to send blessings upon him. Prophet Muhammad was a man, a human being just like any other man, but it is his love for humanity that sets him apart. Muslims love Prophet Muhammad, but it is his love for us, that makes him a man like no other. He longed for Paradise not only for himself but also for all of us. He wept tears not for himself but for his Ummah[1], and for humanity. He was often heard to cry O God, my Ummah, my Ummah.

Muslims also believe in the same Prophets mentioned in Jewish and Christian traditions, including Noah, Moses, Abraham and Jesus, and they believe that all prophets came with the same message " to worship God alone, without partners, sons or daughters. There is a difference, however, between all other prophets and Prophet Muhammad. Before Muhammad, prophets were sent to particular people in particular places and periods. Muhammad however, is the final Prophet and his message is for all of humankind.

God tells us in Quran that He did not send Prophet Muhammad except as a mercy for humankind. And we have sent you O Muhammad, not but as a mercy for humankind and all that exists. (Quran 21:107) God did not say Muhammad was sent to the people of Arabia, or to men, or to the people of the 7th century. He made it clear that Prophet Muhammad was a prophet like no other, one whose message would spread far and wide and be applicable in all places for all times. Muslims love him, respect him and follow him. They hold him in such regard that for many it is emotionally painful to see or hear their beloved mentor ridiculed or disrespected.

Throughout history and around the world non-Muslims have shown great respect and honour to Prophet Muhammad and he is considered influential in both religious and secular matters. Mahatma Ghandi described him as scrupulous about pledges, intense in his devotion to his friends and followers, intrepid, fearless, and with absolute trust in God and in his own mission. Prophet Muhammad taught Islam as a way of life, founded an empire, laid down a moral code and instituted a code of law focusing on respect, tolerance and justice..[2]

What is it about Prophet Muhammad that inspires such devotion? Is it his gentle and loving nature, his kindness and generosity or is it his ability to empathise with all of humanity? Muhammad was a selfless man who devoted the last 23 years of his life to teaching his companions and followers how to worship God and how to respect humanity. Prophet Muhammad was acutely aware of just how much responsibility had been thrust upon him by God. He was careful to teach the message just as God had prescribed and warned his followers not to adulate him the way Jesus, son of Mary was praised.[3]

Muslims do not worship Prophet Muhammad; they understand that he is only a man. However, he is a man worthy of our utmost respect and love. Prophet Muhammad loved humanity so much that he would weep out of fear for them. He loved his Ummah with such deep and profound devotion that God remarked on the depth of his love for us in Quran.

Verily, there has come unto you a Messenger (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty. He (Muhammad) is anxious over you (to be rightly guided, to repent to God, and beg Him to pardon and forgive your sins, in order that you may enter Paradise and be saved from the punishment of the Hell-fire), for the believers he is full of pity, kind, and merciful. (Quran 9:128)

Prophet Muhammad taught us to love God and to obey Him. He taught us to be kind to each other, to respect our elders, and care for our children. He taught us that it was better to give than to receive and that each human life is worthy of respect and dignity. He taught us to love for our brothers and sisters what we love for ourselves. Prophet Muhammad taught us that families and communities are essential, and he pointed out that individual rights although important are not more important than a stable, moral society. Prophet Muhammad taught us that men and women are equal in the sight of God and that no one person is better then another except in respect to his or her piety and devotion to God.

Who is Prophet Muhammad? Quite simply he is the man who will stand before God on the day of Requital and beg God to have mercy on us. He will intercede for us. Muslims love him because he is the slave and messenger of God, he is a mercy to humankind and his gentleness, and devotion to humanity is unprecedented.

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/2626/

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Who is Prophet Muhammad?

a narcissist
a misogynist
a rapist
a pedophile
a lecher
a torturer
a mass murderer
a cult leader
an assassin
a terrorist
a mad man
a looter

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mecca wrote:Who is Prophet Muhammad?

a narcissist
a misogynist
a rapist
a pedophile
a lecher
a torturer
a mass murderer
a cult leader
an assassin
a terrorist
a mad man
a looter
I don't mind Christians calling Prophet Muhammad a 'deciever' or 'false prophet'; but you have gone too far with your profanities.

Instead of presenting yourself as angry; anti-islamic; biased; uncivil; why don't you introduce yourself and hopefully we could have a civil debate?
Do the people think that they will be left to say, "We believe" without being put to the test?
We have tested those before them, for GOD must distinguish those who are truthful, and He must expose the liars.

(Quran 29:2-3)

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Murad wrote:
mecca wrote:I don't mind Christians calling Prophet Muhammad a 'deciever' or 'false prophet'; but you have gone too far with your profanities.

Instead of presenting yourself as angry; anti-islamic; biased; uncivil; why don't you introduce yourself and hopefully we could have a civil debate?
Woooooof really funny when you said this "I don't mind Christians calling Prophet Muhammad a 'deciever' or 'false prophet'" hahahahahahaha

Did you ever reading your koran? what koran say about torat/bible? jews/christian? dont be silly come on!

im anti-islam of couse im not, im not like all muslim in this world who always love talking silly hehehe

debate please ....

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because im newbieeeee here i thought this place for debate forgive me my mistake thanks

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Re: Who is Prophet Muhammad?

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good wrote:Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, is the man beloved by more than 1.2 billion Muslims. He is the man who taught us patience in the face of adversity, and taught us to live in this world but seek eternal life in the hereafter. It was to Prophet Muhammad that God revealed the Quran. Along with this Book of guidance God sent Prophet Muhammad, whose behavior and high moral standards are an example to us all. Prophet Muhammads life was the Quran. He understood it, he loved it and he lived his life based on its standards. He taught us to recite Quran, to live by its principles and to love it. When Muslims declare their faith in One God, they also declare their belief that Muhammad is the slave and final messenger of God.

When a Muslim hears Muhammads name mentioned they ask God to send blessings upon him. Prophet Muhammad was a man, a human being just like any other man, but it is his love for humanity that sets him apart. Muslims love Prophet Muhammad, but it is his love for us, that makes him a man like no other. He longed for Paradise not only for himself but also for all of us. He wept tears not for himself but for his Ummah[1], and for humanity. He was often heard to cry O God, my Ummah, my Ummah.

Muslims also believe in the same Prophets mentioned in Jewish and Christian traditions, including Noah, Moses, Abraham and Jesus, and they believe that all prophets came with the same message " to worship God alone, without partners, sons or daughters. There is a difference, however, between all other prophets and Prophet Muhammad. Before Muhammad, prophets were sent to particular people in particular places and periods. Muhammad however, is the final Prophet and his message is for all of humankind.

God tells us in Quran that He did not send Prophet Muhammad except as a mercy for humankind. And we have sent you O Muhammad, not but as a mercy for humankind and all that exists. (Quran 21:107) God did not say Muhammad was sent to the people of Arabia, or to men, or to the people of the 7th century. He made it clear that Prophet Muhammad was a prophet like no other, one whose message would spread far and wide and be applicable in all places for all times. Muslims love him, respect him and follow him. They hold him in such regard that for many it is emotionally painful to see or hear their beloved mentor ridiculed or disrespected.

Throughout history and around the world non-Muslims have shown great respect and honour to Prophet Muhammad and he is considered influential in both religious and secular matters. Mahatma Ghandi described him as scrupulous about pledges, intense in his devotion to his friends and followers, intrepid, fearless, and with absolute trust in God and in his own mission. Prophet Muhammad taught Islam as a way of life, founded an empire, laid down a moral code and instituted a code of law focusing on respect, tolerance and justice..[2]

What is it about Prophet Muhammad that inspires such devotion? Is it his gentle and loving nature, his kindness and generosity or is it his ability to empathise with all of humanity? Muhammad was a selfless man who devoted the last 23 years of his life to teaching his companions and followers how to worship God and how to respect humanity. Prophet Muhammad was acutely aware of just how much responsibility had been thrust upon him by God. He was careful to teach the message just as God had prescribed and warned his followers not to adulate him the way Jesus, son of Mary was praised.[3]

Muslims do not worship Prophet Muhammad; they understand that he is only a man. However, he is a man worthy of our utmost respect and love. Prophet Muhammad loved humanity so much that he would weep out of fear for them. He loved his Ummah with such deep and profound devotion that God remarked on the depth of his love for us in Quran.

Verily, there has come unto you a Messenger (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty. He (Muhammad) is anxious over you (to be rightly guided, to repent to God, and beg Him to pardon and forgive your sins, in order that you may enter Paradise and be saved from the punishment of the Hell-fire), for the believers he is full of pity, kind, and merciful. (Quran 9:128)

Prophet Muhammad taught us to love God and to obey Him. He taught us to be kind to each other, to respect our elders, and care for our children. He taught us that it was better to give than to receive and that each human life is worthy of respect and dignity. He taught us to love for our brothers and sisters what we love for ourselves. Prophet Muhammad taught us that families and communities are essential, and he pointed out that individual rights although important are not more important than a stable, moral society. Prophet Muhammad taught us that men and women are equal in the sight of God and that no one person is better then another except in respect to his or her piety and devotion to God.

Who is Prophet Muhammad? Quite simply he is the man who will stand before God on the day of Requital and beg God to have mercy on us. He will intercede for us. Muslims love him because he is the slave and messenger of God, he is a mercy to humankind and his gentleness, and devotion to humanity is unprecedented.

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/2626/
Yes, Muhammed was a good man. He did good things,great things, but was it needed? If he had not said love your neighbor, would they have loved their neighbors anyway? If He was not sent, what would have changed? Apart from that God did choose Him to convey a message to the people around Him. If God had chosen someone else, they would have done it differently no doubt, including this or that.

Now one of the things He did do was to bring Sharia law into being. This is backward and does not help people. It is said to please Allah though. Is that all existence is about, pleasing Allah. Allah having the power to do nearly as He pleases would say so, but that is immature. If you have a child you have this thing called peers that hold you back from doing as you will with them. This is called society. Sharia Law brings us into a society, but it is far from humanitarian laws. Being a law, yet not a law, it is nothing, yes? If a shred of wood is wood, yet not an object, it is also nothing. Some rules for life that are bad news as seen by the other laying down of the gods is typically wrong. If it is wrong, why adhere to it? If it is bad, why enforce it? Is it good to hit someone? Do two wrongs make a right?

This brings me to typical laws. What is the point of punishment? If someone steals and the people go crazy for justice, does it undo the wrongs? What s the point of sending people to jail? What harm comes from adultery? What harm comes from killing someone? They are then satisfied, they are then dead. Nothing can undo it. What I am saying now is not supposed to be anti society but rather pro logic - it is an animal's instinct to strike back at someone. If someone hit Ghandi would he strike back? Was he not even more mature than Muhammed? I heard you refer to him in your post too.

Now the thing is to stop them from happening again. If someone is punished then they will not do that thing again for fear of being punished. I have shown how to make people all over the world passive and good people with subliminal programming though radios and television, but this has not been done. If it is correct to correct your child, then the presidents must correct their citizens and this is a good idea. But...

Muhammed did rally people behind him and make them realize they need to try to please Allah. Simply talking to Allah while you are at the shops is a good start, give Allah your time and He may give you his time, yes? When you worship someone you tell them how great they are - it is a compliment. Does not a person get sick of others telling them how great they are all the time? Think of more social ways to worship Allah and bring Him into your life, and maybe that will be more of a compliment, not grovelling behind closed doors, but walking with him in the street.

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mecca wrote:Who is Prophet Muhammad?

a narcissist
a misogynist
a rapist
a pedophile
a lecher
a torturer
a mass murderer
a cult leader
an assassin
a terrorist
a mad man
a looter
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mecca wrote:Who is Prophet Muhammad?

a narcissist
a misogynist
a rapist
a pedophile
a lecher
a torturer
a mass murderer
a cult leader
an assassin
a terrorist
a mad man
a looter
There could be reasonable debate about the adequacy of a few of the terms used above. Narcissist and mad man (although I am of the opinion that these terms are representative of the reality of "the prophet") would be considered controversial and harder to support given that they require psychological knowledge about Muhammad which is less easy to support than many of the other claims.

This is why I will state that the most revered (by many mainstream Islamic schools of thought) texts of Islam -that is to say, the Quran and Sahih Hadith, as well as biographies of the "prophet" widely accepted as authoritative- indeed depict Muhammad as a brutal warlord.

Most specifically, using the texts mentioned above, I would gladly defend, in debate, the notion that Muhammad was:

-a supporter of unequal rights for men and women
-a supporter of raping prisoners of wars
-a supporter of pre-pubescent child marriage
-a lecher and supporter of one-way polygamy
-a torturer and supporter of barbaric and violent punishments
-a mass murderer
-a cult leader
-an assassin
-a terrorist
-a looter
-a mass slave trader and slave owner
-a supporter of treating other human beings as second-class citizens (at best) if they did not share his beliefs
-a supporter of denying freedom of speech to detractors
-a supporter of killing those who left his cult

I hope I will not face moderator action for speaking the truth. Any of these claims is quite easy to document extensively. Of course, if Muslims want to ignore the texts which untold numbers of their brethren and many of their widely respected scholars consider authoritative (and have considered authoritative since the founding of this ideology of intolerance, violent theocracy and supremacism), more power to them.

-Woland

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Woland wrote: I hope I will not face moderator action for speaking the truth.
You sound like that dutch politician that is facing prosecution for "inciting hatred"; and making himself the 'victim' and trying to make it look like its "freedom of speech" that is being prosecuted instead.
Ofcourse i don't want a moderator warning to be placed on you, i have enjoyed the experience of talking to people with the opposite ideology as me.

Woland wrote: Of course, if Muslims want to ignore the texts which untold numbers of their brethren and many of their widely respected scholars consider authoritative (and have considered authoritative since the founding of this ideology of intolerance, violent theocracy and supremacism), more power to them.

-Woland
Well Woland; as much as you think muslims are unaware of their own prophet, there is much, much more to him than what you know or how you perceive him. There have been many hate-filled; biased non-muslims that have changed their perception regarding Prophet Muhammad once they read unbiased sources.

Obviously i dont deny an Athiest's ideology will not agree with the Islamic ideology or any religious ideology where a God exists & where divine law exists.
Do the people think that they will be left to say, "We believe" without being put to the test?
We have tested those before them, for GOD must distinguish those who are truthful, and He must expose the liars.

(Quran 29:2-3)

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Murad wrote: You sound like that dutch politician that is facing prosecution for "inciting hatred"; and making himself the 'victim' and trying to make it look like its "freedom of speech" that is being prosecuted instead.
That's because it is indeed freedom of speech which is being prosecuted. People, including journalists, politicians, and other "intellectuals", are scared of what legitimate criticism of Islam may bring to their societies, their families, and themselves, notably violence against innocents and "radicalization of the poor victimized Muslim youth" (which seems unreasonably easy to do), so they aim to stifle it by all means necessary.

Could you please tell me what the Dutch politician has said that is factually incorrect?

Do you support his being prosecuted for speaking his opinion without ever, as far as I've seen, inciting violence?

Most Westerners are also spectacularly uneducated about Islam (as well as of their own professed religions), and I can guarantee you that if they knew what you believe to be "divine law" is actually part and parcel of Islam (including all the intolerant and violent policies which you have explicitly lent support to in another thread) and not "false Islam", they wouldn't think, as they seem to do in great numbers, that "Islam is a religion of peace hijacked by extremists", which is what even violence-supporting Muslims in the West keep parroting. Most humans have never felt compelled to do their own research into matters (especially the religious beliefs of others), and Westerners tend to project their own tolerant and peaceful values onto others.
Murad wrote: Well Woland; as much as you think muslims are unaware of their own prophet, there is much, much more to him than what you know or how you perceive him.
And what would you know about the extent of my knowledge of Muhammad and Islam?

Of all the attributes I mentioned above which concern Muhammad, do you find any to be incorrect? If so, let's discuss. Pronouncing my ignorance does not validate your position. If you do not find any to be incorrect, then again I enjoin you to climb on an orange box in any Western country and tell the people what "true Islam" is - an ideology of theocratic supremacism, intolerance and violence. It would do us all a great favor.

Many Muslims, especially in Western countries where you find many "cafeteria Muslims", are absolutely unaware of the history of violence and intolerance their prophet and their religion.

Not all Muslims are like you - not all of them support violent and oppressive Shariah law. Do you not consider them to be ignorant about Islam, since their beliefs massively differ from yours?

Muslims are quite often shielded from criticism of their beliefs, since criticizing Islam is more than frowned upon in most Muslim countries - it can get you persecuted and/or killed by the state or angry mobs in a frenzy quite easily, or at the very least you can end up ousted from your families and circles of friends.
Murad wrote: There have been many hate-filled; biased non-muslims that have changed their perception regarding Prophet Muhammad once they read unbiased sources.
You mean like the Quran, Sahih Hadith and biographies by renowned and widely respected scholars? I think these are as "unbiased" as it gets, and I do believe that they all support my contentions above. Again, do you disagree?

That others have changed their opinions about Muhammad does not prove that he was a righteous man in the slightest, only that people are ready to submit to his dogmatic teachings. People have changed their opinions about Hitler, Mao, and Stalin as well.
Murad wrote: Obviously i dont deny an Athiest's ideology will not agree with the Islamic ideology or any religious ideology where a God exists & where divine law exists.
It's not about a God existing, or even about divine laws. It's about delusional religionists trying to enforce their backwards, dogmatic, and violent practices on others, violating all principles of human rights (as defined in the UDHR) and human dignity in the process. This is what "strict" Shariah law does, and why I find it abhorrent to say the least.

Do you disagree?

Do you have any evidence for "Allah" existing in reality?

Do you have any evidence suggesting that a deity dictated rules which must be follower?

It seems to me that these questions first need to be answered before Muslims presume to impose "divine rules" on others who want nothing to do with them.

-Woland

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