You want pay, about prayers?

lleon · Post by **lleon** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:30 am

What do you think: http://prayers-4u.com

Atrax Robustus · Post by **Atrax Robustus** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:14 am

lleon wrote:What do you think: http://prayers-4u.com

What do you think?

Rabbi David Azulai prides himself on possessing special mystical powers to create powerful and profound shifts in peopleâ€™s energy, life, and consciousness. Rabbi Azulai is experienced in giving insight into relationships, recognizing soul mates, dealing with matters of the heart, business and financial matters with compassion and understanding.

â€œUpon receiving your information, Rabbi David Azulai sets aside and meditates to initiate a connection to the â€œworld of truthâ€�. This allows Rabbi Azulai to get spiritual insight to your case, and any other issues or problems that you did not include but still need to be addressedâ€�.

People pay huge amounts daily to charlatans who claim 'special mystical powers', why not a Rabbi? What is the difference between a Rabbi, Mullah, Priest, Clairvoyant, Tarot Reader, Crystal Gazer, Astrologist . . .? Is there a difference at all? After all, they each peddle fantasy, false hope and misinformation to an all too gullible customer base.

Come to think of it, I could don a tallit and tefillin for a few photos and cash in on this as well!

Jrosemary · Post by **Jrosemary** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:33 am

Lol! My, my--I had no idea we had this sort of thing in Judaism!

I notice the site doesn't mention where this fellow did his rabbinic studies. It only mentiones the yeshiva wherein he studied Kabalah. (Maybe Sephardic ordinations don't work the same way?)

Oh, it also mentions the "major" work on the Tanakh he wrote--but not by name!

Atrax Robustus wrote:Come to think of it, I could don a tallit and tefillin for a few photos and cash in on this as well!

Well, please don't take the picture or lay the tefillin on Shabbos!

Atrax Robustus · Post by **Atrax Robustus** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:13 am

Jrosemary wrote:Well, please don't take the picture or lay the tefillin on Shabbos!

Thanks for the advice!

No problems there . . . I have other things to do on Saturday and bondage isn't included in any of my plans.

(No offence intended BTW)

Jrosemary · Post by **Jrosemary** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:46 am

Atrax Robustus wrote:
Jrosemary wrote:Well, please don't take the picture or lay the tefillin on Shabbos!
Thanks for the advice!

No problems there . . . I have other things to do on Saturday and bondage isn't included in any of my plans. (No offence intended BTW)

None taken--believe me, we've made plenty of jokes about 'strapping on leather' at my synagogue as we prepare for a weekday minyan.

I own tefillin--in Conservative Judaism, some woman lay tefillin--and I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. I suspect that the verses we base tefillin off of were meant to be taken symbolically but, darn it, if it says to bind these words on our arm and between our eyes, we're going to do it!

It's kind of funny, because in general Judaism is not into biblical literalism, but there are certain things we insist on concretizing . . .

A friend of mine who's a rabbincal student at JTS asked me what I thought about, er, strapping on the leather. I told her that laying tefillin felt amazingly powerful on one hand--you're betrothing yourself to God, after all, when you get to the part where you're wrapping the leather around your hand and fingers plus you have bits of the Torah bound to you--and just plain silly on the other.

She smiled and said, "Powerful and silly: yeah, that sounds about right."

Atrax Robustus · Post by **Atrax Robustus** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:36 am

Jrosemary wrote:None taken--believe me, we've made plenty of jokes about 'strapping on leather' at my synagogue as we prepare for a weekday minyan.

'strapping on leather' . . .

Jrosemary wrote:She smiled and said, "Powerful and silly: yeah, that sounds about right."

I agree with a rabbinical student!

elle · Post by **elle** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:35 pm

lleon wrote:What do you think: http://prayers-4u.com

I think the site seems to be predatory. It seems to be using the desperation, religious devotion, or unfortunate circumstances that others find themselves in as a means to make money. Of course, there are some that may argue that all religion does this but I don't believe that to necessarily be so. I think that there is plenty of corruption in organized religion and that this could be an example of it.

lleon · Post by **lleon** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:35 am

I found another him web site:
http://www.kabalatalisman.com
Rabbi Azulai writes special talisman to help people connect with the world of truth and offer protection from the Evil Eye ???
Faith for money Is this normal?

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:46 am

lleon wrote:I found another him web site:
http://www.kabalatalisman.com
Rabbi Azulai writes special talisman to help people connect with the world of truth and offer protection from the Evil Eye ???
Faith for money Is this normal?

No, it's not.. at least in main stream Judaism. It sounds just like a televangalist scam to me.

I suppose that it was destined that as soon as someone started selling pseudo kaballah to the gentiles, this kind of scam would arise.

lleon · Post by **lleon** » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:36 am

goat wrote:
lleon wrote:I found another him web site:
http://www.kabalatalisman.com
Rabbi Azulai writes special talisman to help people connect with the world of truth and offer protection from the Evil Eye ???
Faith for money Is this normal?
No, it's not.. at least in main stream Judaism. It sounds just like a televangalist scam to me.

I suppose that it was destined that as soon as someone started selling pseudo kaballah to the gentiles, this kind of scam would arise.

I absolutely agree

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