Can the Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error? If the same principles that disprove the Koran were applied to the Bible, would the Bible be disproven too?RND wrote:The Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error.
Can the Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error?
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Can the Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error?
Post #1Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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Plenty of posts and debates have pointed out the errors of both the Qur’an and the Bible, but the faithful will always find some way of twisting it to their own ends, or else simply dismissing it by claiming you don’t understand.
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^That's one possiblity.
Another possibility is that there is no contradiction/error in the Quran. The faithful will try to demonstrate that, but others will dismiss it and claim they are still correct..even if they realize they are at fault.
Another possibility is that there is no contradiction/error in the Quran. The faithful will try to demonstrate that, but others will dismiss it and claim they are still correct..even if they realize they are at fault.
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Post #4McCulloch wrote:RND wrote:The Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error.McCulloch wrote:Can the Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error?
Nope!!
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Post #5muhammad rasullah wrote:Can you support your claim?McCulloch wrote:RND wrote:The Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error.McCulloch wrote:Can the Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error?
Nope!!
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Post #6muhammad rasullah wrote:35:1McCulloch wrote:RND wrote:The Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error.McCulloch wrote:Can the Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error?
Nope!!
Praise be to Allah, the Creator of the heavens and the earth, Who appointeth the angels messengers having wings two, three and four. He multiplieth in creation what He will. Lo! Allah is Able to do all things.
6:100-101
Yet they ... impute falsely, without knowledge, sons and daughters unto Him. ... The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child?
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Post #7bernee51 wrote:6:100 (Y. Ali) Yet they make the Jinns equals with Allah, though Allah did create the Jinns; and they falsely, having no knowledge, attribute to Him sons and daughters. Praise and glory be to Him! (for He is) above what they attribute to Him!muhammad rasullah wrote:35:1McCulloch wrote:RND wrote:The Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error.McCulloch wrote:Can the Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error?
Nope!!
Praise be to Allah, the Creator of the heavens and the earth, Who appointeth the angels messengers having wings two, three and four. He multiplieth in creation what He will. Lo! Allah is Able to do all things.
6:100-101
Yet they ... impute falsely, without knowledge, sons and daughters unto Him. ... The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child?
6:101 (Y. Ali) To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.
So where is the contradiction or error?
Bismillahir rahmaanir Raheem \"In The Name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful\"
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Post #8muhammad rasullah wrote:35:1bernee51 wrote:6:100 (Y. Ali) Yet they make the Jinns equals with Allah, though Allah did create the Jinns; and they falsely, having no knowledge, attribute to Him sons and daughters. Praise and glory be to Him! (for He is) above what they attribute to Him!muhammad rasullah wrote:35:1McCulloch wrote:RND wrote:The Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error.McCulloch wrote:Can the Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error?
Nope!!
Praise be to Allah, the Creator of the heavens and the earth, Who appointeth the angels messengers having wings two, three and four. He multiplieth in creation what He will. Lo! Allah is Able to do all things.
6:100-101
Yet they ... impute falsely, without knowledge, sons and daughters unto Him. ... The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child?
6:101 (Y. Ali) To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.
So where is the contradiction or error?
Allah is Able to do all things.
6. 101 Allah can't have a son without a consort.
Allah cannot do all things.
It is a contradiction.
"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
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Re: Can the Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error?
Post #9goat wrote:Can you support yours? The title of the thread is can the Quran be disproven so when you show an error it'll be disproven. I think the burden to show anything is more so on you not me.muhammad rasullah wrote:Can you support your claim?McCulloch wrote:RND wrote:The Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error.McCulloch wrote:Can the Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error?
Nope!!
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Post #10bernee51 wrote:You don't have a clear understanding of what the verse means. It is not merely the fact that Allah does not have a consort it is that the child is the offspring of two compatible spouses. Allah does not have an equal, none of His creatures are similar to Him, for He alone created the entire creation.muhammad rasullah wrote:35:1bernee51 wrote:6:100 (Y. Ali) Yet they make the Jinns equals with Allah, though Allah did create the Jinns; and they falsely, having no knowledge, attribute to Him sons and daughters. Praise and glory be to Him! (for He is) above what they attribute to Him!muhammad rasullah wrote:35:1McCulloch wrote:RND wrote:The Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error.McCulloch wrote:Can the Koran can be disproven and shown to be in error?
Nope!!
Praise be to Allah, the Creator of the heavens and the earth, Who appointeth the angels messengers having wings two, three and four. He multiplieth in creation what He will. Lo! Allah is Able to do all things.
6:100-101
Yet they ... impute falsely, without knowledge, sons and daughters unto Him. ... The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child?
6:101 (Y. Ali) To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.
So where is the contradiction or error?
Allah is Able to do all things.
6. 101 Allah can't have a son without a consort.
Allah cannot do all things.
It is a contradiction.
19:92 (Y. Ali) For it is not consonant with the majesty of ((Allah)) Most Gracious that He should beget a son.
He has created everything and He is All-Knower of all things. How can He have a wife from His creation, who is suitable for His majesty, when there is none like Him How can He have a child then Verily, Allah is Glorified above having a son.
Allah can not do something which is ungodly or beneath his majesty like having a son. God only does Godly things. So it is not a contradiction it is that Allah is far above having a son.
For example Allah is All powerful but Allah can't create a rock that is too heavy and big for him to lift because if he couldn't lift it then he wouldn't be All powerful. This does not show a limitation or a contradiction but only displays how powerful Allah is.
Allah having a son is a contradiction to who he is not him not having a son.
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