jesus in islam

CONVERTED TO ISLAM · Post by **CONVERTED TO ISLAM** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:20 am

The Islamic view of Jesus lies between two extremes. The Jews, who rejected Jesus as a prophet, called him an imposter, while the Christians, on the other hand, considered him to be the son of God and worship him as such. Islam considers Jesus to be one of the greatest and most forbearing of prophets, in addition to Noah, Abraham, Moses and Muhammad, may God praise them. Jesus is also considered to be the Messiah as well. This is in conformity with the Islamic view of the Oneness of God, the Oneness of Divine guidance, and the complementary role of the subsequent mission of God’s messengers.

The message of God to humanity, which is to worship God and God alone and to live according to His instruction, was revealed to Adam (peace be upon him), who passed it on to his children. All the subsequent revelations to Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and, finally, Muhammad are in conformity with that message. Thus, Islam views any contradictions among revealed religions as man-made elements introduced into these religions. The position of Jesus in the three major creeds- Judaism, Christianity, and Islam- is not an exception.

Although the Quran does not present a detailed life-story of Jesus, it highlights the important aspects of his birth, his mission, his ascension to heaven. It also passes judgment on the Christian and Jewish beliefs concerning him. We will look at some of the truths which God revealed about Jesus in the Quran.

Born of a Virgin Mother
Like Christians, Muslims believe that Mary, Maria in Spanish, or Maryam as she is called in Arabic, was a chaste, virgin woman, who miraculously gave birth to Jesus. Jesus’ birth in itself was a miracle in that he had no father. God describes his birth in the Quran as follows:

“And mention in the Book (the Quran), Mary, when she withdrew in seclusion from her family to a place facing east. She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her a spirit from Us, (the angel Gabriel), and he appeared before her in the form of a man in all respects. She said: ‘Verily, I seek refuge with the Most Gracious (God) from you, if you do fear God.’ (The angel) said: ‘I am only a messenger from your Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a righteous son.’ She said: ‘How can I have a son, when no man hath touched me, nor am I unchaste?’ He said: ‘So (it will be), your Lord said That is easy for Me (God): And (We wish) to appoint him as a sign to mankind and a mercy from Us (God), and it is a matter (already) decreed (by God).’” (Quran 19:16-21)

This fact, however, does not necessitate that Jesus is divine in essence or spirit, nor is he worthy of worship, for Adam’s existence was more miraculous than that of Jesus. If his miraculous birth were a proof that Jesus was God incarnate or His son, then Adam would have more right over this divinity than him. Rather, both are prophets who were inspired with revelation from God Almighty, and both were servants to Him living according to His commandments.

“Indeed, the likeness of Jesus with God is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then He said to him: ‘Be!’ and he was.’” (Quran 3:59)

Miracles
Muslims, like Christians believe that Jesus performed miracles. These miracles were performed by the will and permission of God, Who has power and control over all things.

“Then will God say: ‘O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favor to you and to your mother. Behold! I strengthened you with the Holy Spirit (the angel Gabriel) so that you did speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught you the Book and Wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel. And behold: you make out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and you breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by My leave, and you heal those born blind, and the lepers by My leave. And behold! You bring forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to you) when you did show them the Clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: ‘This is nothing but evident magic.’” (Quran 5:110)

God sent all prophets with miracles specific to the nation to whom they were sent to prove the veracity of their message. These miracles were not performed of their own accord; rather, they were only manifest in their hands by God's will. The miracles performed by Jesus were no different. The Jews were well advanced in the field of medicine, and the miracles which Jesus brought were of this nature, proving the truth of His message and in order to convince the Jews.

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:51 am

mar wrote:
Pazuzu bin Hanbi wrote:
CONVERTED TO ISLAM wrote:why ?!!
Because god doesn’t exist, and all religions have come from humans.
God does exist. And not all religon came from man. Islam didnt. If it did, where did man come from? God. Where did god come from? Well in science,(i can see you are really behind in science) it is a law in science that there must be an untouchable and unmovable ultimate creater. And that is god. So since god exists, he reviels the religon. So really the quran aint from muhammed (S) , but from god.

Well, Islam came from man. It came from a guy name Mohamed, who took a lot of his ideas from Christianity, and Judaism,and then added a bunch of restrictions himself. No. There isn't a 'law' in science that there must be an ultimate and untouchable creator. So far, science has not found a way to test and falsify that hypothesis, so that is beyond the scope of science. While there might be an ultimate creator, science says nothing about it.

So for, nothing you have shown would convince me there is a creator, and that creator chose the Koran and Mohamed as his messenger. I am sorry, but nothing you have said shows me that there is even a GOD, other than your rather unconvincing declaration.

CONVERTED TO ISLAM · Post by **CONVERTED TO ISLAM** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:27 am

goat

Well, Islam came from man. It came from a guy name Mohamed, who took a lot of his ideas from Christianity, and Judaism,and then added a bunch of restrictions himself. No. There isn't a 'law' in science that there must be an ultimate and untouchable creator. So far, science has not found a way to test and falsify that hypothesis, so that is beyond the scope of science. While there might be an ultimate creator, science says nothing about it.

So for, nothing you have shown would convince me there is a creator, and that creator chose the Koran and Mohamed as his messenger. I am sorry, but nothing you have said shows me that there is even a GOD, other than your rather unconvincing declaration.

you gave me a proof that you a really goat it is not justa nickname

( i am sorry )

but i always ask this question but no body can answer me
who created the first human,animal and jinn ??

there must be a god

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:31 am

CONVERTED TO ISLAM wrote:but i always ask this question but no body can answer me
who created the first human,animal and jinn ??

there must be a god

The first humans gradually evolved as a separate group from their common ancestors with the other Chimpanzees.

The first animals seem to have been evolved as colonies of single celled organisms which shared genetic material discovered the selective advantage in specializing their functions.

Jinns were created by fairies using unicorn horns.

Who created God? If God exists then God must have had a creator.

CONVERTED TO ISLAM · Post by **CONVERTED TO ISLAM** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:28 pm

McCulloch wrote:
CONVERTED TO ISLAM wrote:but i always ask this question but no body can answer me
who created the first human,animal and jinn ??

there must be a god
The first humans gradually evolved as a separate group from their common ancestors with the other Chimpanzees.

The first animals seem to have been evolved as colonies of single celled organisms which shared genetic material discovered the selective advantage in specializing their functions.

Jinns were created by fairies using unicorn horns.

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you gotta be kidding me
so give me an evidence if you can prove it
ok who created the first champanzees???????????

Who created God? If God exists then God must have had a creator

no body create allah
allah said :

Sûrat Al-Ikhlâs or At-Tauhîd
(The Purity)

In the Name of Allâh,
the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

1. Say (O Muhammad ): "He is Allâh, (the) One.

2. "Allâh-us-Samad [Allâh the Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, (He neither eats nor drinks)].

3. "He begets not, nor was He begotten.[2]

4. "And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him."

mar · Post by **mar** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:54 pm

Fallibleone wrote:Islam certainly offers AN answer, just not the correct one.

And no, I don't know very much. Nor do you. I admit it though. You don't know the answers to these questions either. Your holy book does NOT give you special insight into how things really are.

Our holy book doesnt? Have you even touched the quran?!!! How can you believe in shuch lies when you havent even read the quran for your self!!! And by the what you said is actually proven wrong by many atheist scholers. Im not suprised for your ignorence because you just admited you aint know much--no wander you are folling under the wrong path... Anywaqys you said that you dont know the start of these things. Well according to the laws of science, all things must have and ultimate unchangeble and stable creater. (Note most muslim debaters have challenged atheist debaters to admit this was god, but yet failed) So their we go their is a couse for the existence of animals and humans.

God himself tells us in the quran that mankind is not to be ignorrent for that is the way to astray. No wonder you are worshiping your self. You said you dont know much-- then why are you debating!!!! If you dont know much about islam, by not reading the quran, why are you wasting your time on forums. You said islams' answer is incorrect. How do you know when you havent even read GOD's words (the Quran)!!!!!

And yes the convert does know the answer to these question. He gave you the answers on his previose posts, you guys just keep going in circles in excuse to either read the quran or believe in GOD.

Shead some light to your heart and wake up from misery.
Oh and in your post when you said you dont know how you guys exist. You just proven again just as the same mistakes other atheist scholers (sichberg, etc), that histroy itself has no mean. Sad. sad that you believe your existence has no meaning. Sad that you believe you were made by accident (refurring to the bigbang) Sad that you guys believes something comes from nothing. That just cracks the laws of science. And thats what makes it sad. That you guys just leave out the parts of science that prove god. Science proves god. Thats why god made science.
And yet you deny!"(55:some verse)--quran
How bout open some urge for the truth rather then hatred to find god and the truth. That is why god aint helping you to reallise your mistakes. You guys are in darkness, and wont come out till you all make an intention to find the the truth and escape ignorrence. If you did already, then you would go to the quran and find all the answers (that have not been proven wrong buy many atheist scholers) to all you questions.

Forgive iof i have said something offensive to anyone
salaam
mar

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:00 pm

mar wrote: God himself tells us in the quran that mankind is not to be ignorrent for that is the way to astray. No wonder you are worshiping your self. You said you dont know much-- then why are you debating!!!! If you dont know much about islam, by not reading the quran, why are you wasting your time on forums. You said islams' answer is incorrect. How do you know when you havent even read GOD's words (the Quran)!!!!!

And let's see, "God" himself says the the quran is not to be ignorant for the way to be astray, and that this is recorded in the Quran.

Can you see the circular nature of that arguement?

I would say that is a very unconvincing arguement. It frankly sucks. It sounds like the mind dead blathering of the Christian Fundy.

mar · Post by **mar** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:04 pm

who created god?
Well Science proves what God was there just by existence.
What atheist scientists have proven is that there must be an ultimate unchangeable stable creater for the cause to the effect.
And thats god.

ok say you were right that humans evolved by monkeys. Then where did monkeys come from--single cells organisms--whered they come from--it was part of earth --earth came from bibbang--what coused the bigbang---oh! was this the unchangeable stable creater--no! it aint stable and unchangeable--so all proofs lead to god--god was the couse. In science there is always a couse and that is left of it!

forgive me for what i have said offensively.
salaam
mar

Pazuzu bin Hanbi · Post by **Pazuzu bin Hanbi** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:19 pm

mar wrote:Well Science proves what God was there just by existence.
What atheist scientists have proven is that there must be an ultimate unchangeable stable creater for the cause to the effect.

The only thing offensive to me comes from your insistence on making staggeringly ridiculous assertions like this with not even ONE piece of supporting evidence! ‘Science’ as a monolithic mass confirms the existence of god? Go on then: show me! Tell me about it. Or at least point to some works I can have a look at.

And have ‘atheist scientists’ really proved that?

mar · Post by **mar** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:23 pm

goat wrote:
mar wrote: God himself tells us in the quran that mankind is not to be ignorrent for that is the way to astray. No wonder you are worshiping your self. You said you dont know much-- then why are you debating!!!! If you dont know much about islam, by not reading the quran, why are you wasting your time on forums. You said islams' answer is incorrect. How do you know when you havent even read GOD's words (the Quran)!!!!!

And let's see, "God" himself says the the quran is not to be ignorant for the way to be astray, and that this is recorded in the Quran.

Can you see the circular nature of that arguement?

I would say that is a very unconvincing arguement. It frankly sucks. It sounds like the mind dead blathering of the Christian Fundy.

What the heck you dont make saense. The quran is not ignorrent frankly because it is gods words, how is gods words ignorrent when he knows what is the truth and what will happen in the futire!!!! And yes i can see a circuler nature within your self. You guys keep going in circles with excuses!

mar · Post by **mar** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:28 pm

yes science does, but atheist scholes are just to closed minded to believe it. Atheist scholers proven it but failed to realise that science asnswers against what they think sciense answers. Plus they believe what iv just said is wrong. But where is my proof --read the QURAN FOR GODS SAKE! Not only read it ask god to make it easy for you guys to understand it!
mar
again forgive me for what i have said offensive
iont to some work for you to look at? Look at the quran! Then look at science! You will realise the truth.
mar