Has science found God?

[1213]

As Bible suggests, this world is like a computer simulation. And now some have found evidence this could be true, world may be like a computer simulation. What say you, have science found God, the programmer of the universe?

"Simulation theory is a theoretical hypothesis that says what people perceive as reality is actually an advanced, hyper-realistic computer simulation, possibly overseen by a higher being".
https://builtin.com/hardware/simulation-theory

"Do you ever experience something and think to yourself, “This can’t be real.” To some people who have bought into the notion that our reality is currently being simulated, there are examples all around us, that demonstrate glitches in the Matrix. Deja Vu? Ghosts? The Mandela Effect? These could all be direct examples of flaws in the simulation."
https://interestingengineering.com/scie ... ion-theory

"MIT Theoretical physicist James Gates has made a discovery that allegedly caused Neil deGrasse Tyson to sit down in shock. Now for the uninitiated, superstring theory is a concept that could unify all aspects of physics if proven right. While working on his superstring theory, he made an odd discovery. Gates claims to have identified what appears to be actual computer code embedded in the equations of string theory that describe the fundamental particles of our universe. In short, he found “error-correcting codes,” the same error-correcting codes that you might find on the web browser you are using right now."
https://interestingengineering.com/scie ... ion-theory

[benchwarmer]

Science cannot possibly 'find God' because God is invisible and beyond science's ability to observe or measure.

Yet it's odd that some humans claim to have 'found God' when this God is invisible, not observable, and nothing measured can be shown to have anything to do with it.

It's almost like it doesn't exist, or at the very least, acts no different than not existing.

Science cannot opine about God and humans can only find God by faith, not by sight.

In other words, humans can only make something up because they can't observe or measure any gods. Thousands have been proposed by humans throughout our history.

You mention faith, but how are you learning about what to have faith in? You either read some words in a book or hear people tell you something is true. They can show you no evidence or anything to measure so you are basically saying the only way to find God is just be gullible and believe what people say based on nothing.

How do you determine which books and people to believe and have faith in? That is the crux of the question and the obvious failure of this method to arrive at 'God'.'

If you have a method to actually determine which god might be true, surely you have to base it on something other than gullibility? If you have nothing to measure or observe, what exactly are you doing?

[marke]

Science cannot possibly 'find God' because God is invisible and beyond science's ability to observe or measure.

Yet it's odd that some humans claim to have 'found God' when this God is invisible, not observable, and nothing measured can be shown to have anything to do with it.

It's almost like it doesn't exist, or at the very least, acts no different than not existing.

Science cannot opine about God and humans can only find God by faith, not by sight.

In other words, humans can only make something up because they can't observe or measure any gods. Thousands have been proposed by humans throughout our history.

You mention faith, but how are you learning about what to have faith in? You either read some words in a book or hear people tell you something is true. They can show you no evidence or anything to measure so you are basically saying the only way to find God is just be gullible and believe what people say based on nothing.

How do you determine which books and people to believe and have faith in? That is the crux of the question and the obvious failure of this method to arrive at 'God'.'

If you have a method to actually determine which god might be true, surely you have to base it on something other than gullibility? If you have nothing to measure or observe, what exactly are you doing?

You question human opinions, books, ideas, and theories, none of which serve to disprove God.

[benchwarmer]

You question human opinions, books, ideas, and theories, none of which serve to disprove God.

You, and countless apologists, have this backwards. It's not our job to 'disprove' God. It's yours to prove God or at the very least provide some measurable, verifiable, observable evidence that points that direction. However, you have already admitted that you can't provide any measurements or observations so you are kind of stuck.

Just like you don't have to disprove leprechauns, fairies, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, etc. we don't have to disprove any gods. The burden is on the one making the affirmative claim. i.e. there is a god and it's God. All you have is the Bible and some philosophy. Other religions have the same thing. You all sort it out and get back to us when you have something to actually show us.

[marke]

You question human opinions, books, ideas, and theories, none of which serve to disprove God.

You, and countless apologists, have this backwards. It's not our job to 'disprove' God. It's yours to prove God or at the very least provide some measurable, verifiable, observable evidence that points that direction. However, you have already admitted that you can't provide any measurements or observations so you are kind of stuck.

Just like you don't have to disprove leprechauns, fairies, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, etc. we don't have to disprove any gods. The burden is on the one making the affirmative claim. i.e. there is a god and it's God. All you have is the Bible and some philosophy. Other religions have the same thing. You all sort it out and get back to us when you have something to actually show us.

I see no need to try to prove God to anyone.

[Clownboat]

I see no need to try to prove God to anyone.

Well... that certainly explains why you are failing at it so badly. So thanks for explaining why that is.
Be well!

[marke]

I see no need to try to prove God to anyone.

Well... that certainly explains why you are failing at it so badly. So thanks for explaining why that is.
Be well!

You say I am failing to prove God. Are you unaware that God cannot be scientifically proven or disproven by anyone?

[Clownboat]

You say I am failing to prove God. Are you unaware that God cannot be scientifically proven or disproven by anyone?

Of course I am aware of that.

To be accurate though, none of the available god concept can be proven, including the one you prefer, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.
You seem to be arguing that your god is just as unprovable as all the others. Did you think this through? Perhaps clarification is needed?

Do you acknowledge that all things that don't exist cannot be proven or disproven?

[marke]

You say I am failing to prove God. Are you unaware that God cannot be scientifically proven or disproven by anyone?

Of course I am aware of that.

To be accurate though, none of the available god concept can be proven, including the one you prefer, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.
You seem to be arguing that your god is just as unprovable as all the others. Did you think this through? Perhaps clarification is needed?

Do you acknowledge that all things that don't exist cannot be proven or disproven?

You admit that there are a massive number of things in life that cannot be proven yet you still mock Christians for not proving the God that everyone knows cannot be proven. Your mockery is unjust.

[Clownboat]

You say I am failing to prove God. Are you unaware that God cannot be scientifically proven or disproven by anyone?

Of course I am aware of that.

To be accurate though, none of the available god concept can be proven, including the one you prefer, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.
You seem to be arguing that your god is just as unprovable as all the others. Did you think this through? Perhaps clarification is needed?

Do you acknowledge that all things that don't exist cannot be proven or disproven?

You admit that there are a massive number of things in life that cannot be proven yet you still mock Christians for not proving the God that everyone knows cannot be proven. Your mockery is unjust.

To be clear, we were talking about gods, not whether or not everything in life can be proven or not (what that would have to do with proving the Christian God is lost on me anyway).

Please try to leave your emotions out of this and stick to debating.
The debatable points are above in bold.

[marke]

You say I am failing to prove God. Are you unaware that God cannot be scientifically proven or disproven by anyone?

Of course I am aware of that.

To be accurate though, none of the available god concept can be proven, including the one you prefer, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.
You seem to be arguing that your god is just as unprovable as all the others. Did you think this through? Perhaps clarification is needed?

Do you acknowledge that all things that don't exist cannot be proven or disproven?

You admit that there are a massive number of things in life that cannot be proven yet you still mock Christians for not proving the God that everyone knows cannot be proven. Your mockery is unjust.

To be clear, we were talking about gods, not whether or not everything in life can be proven or not (what that would have to do with proving the Christian God is lost on me anyway).

Please try to leave your emotions out of this and stick to debating.
The debatable points are above in bold.

God can no more be proven than can evolution, global warming, abiogenesis, or the big bang.